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George didn’t gaslight us like that.
Lucas has been gaslighting the fan base for 40 years. Nine films, six films, twelve films, never about Vader, always about Vader, Vader not the father, Vader always the father, Han shot in self defense, Leia was always the sister, “what I’d always planned”, “I just didn’t have the technology in 1980/1977/1983”, The Original Vision, commissioned two authors to each write a second film, the 1977 negatives are gone forever, films should never be altered, the director can alter, etc, etc, etc.
He built the franchise off of gaslighting the fan base and his constant lying created the fracturing that led to things like this very community.
Not only that, but Lucasfilm under George’s reign also released multiple versions of the original trilogy with very little added in terms of extras or picture quality. Getting consumers to buy multiple copies of the OT, instead of the releasing the “Ultimate” set, did not begin with Disney.
It’d be interesting to know what special features come with the movies. I for one hope, that all the trailers for the OT will be on there in at least HD. Those were missing from the BD Set. I could finally work on my german trailers again. I’m also with Dr. Dre here, 95% of the UHD OT is what I want. We can work with that to create the best looking OOT to date.
For the sake of preservation we have the 4Kxx versions. But for my viewing pleasure I wouldn’t mind a mix of the recomposited effects (which I like), but all CGI (which I don’t like) and otherwise altered scenes (Greedo, etc.) replaced with the original scenes from the 4Kxx versions.
So, although I swore to never buy a version of SW again unless it’s the OUT, the picture quality is quite tempting.
I’m getting the 4K box set, since I’ve bought every version of Star Wars starting with the $100 VHS in 1982. And also because by having it, I can enjoy future versions of Harmy’s DEs and 4K80!!😃
Wow! I Love these! The link wouldn’t take me to them though… would it be possible to redo the link or maybe dm them to me?
Me too, please!
If someone has a template or more precise measurements (preferably in metric) for those cases, I could try and whip something up for ya.
I presume raphdude is referring to these: http://www.casetopia.com/Viva_Elite_9_Disc_Blu_ray_Case_25mm_p/br9-elite.htm
If so, they appear to be standard Blu-ray cover dimensions with a 25mm spine. I would design 3341px (1523+295+1523) x 1762px at 300dpi.
ChainsawAsh,
Many Thanks for the reply and for the offer:) And thanks, thomwillecke for posting the metric measurements of the viva elite case, which is the one I’m going to use (3 of them) for the upcoming 4K Box Set. To be honest, I have no idea how I’d like this to look. There are some good examples on page 45 of this thread. I kind of like the idea of having related art on the front and on the back of each trilogy’s page. I really like the CBS/Fox Style covers as well. Thanks again!😃
I wanted to humbly ask, I’m getting the 27 disc Star Wars 4K Box Set in March, but I’m going to put the discs in three 9 disc Viva Elite Cases, one each for the PT,OT, and ST respectively, with the spine measuring approx 7/8 inch on each case. Would anyone perhaps be interested in making custom art for a set like this?
If that $329 price is in Canadian dollars, the current exchange rate brings it to $249 American, or just under $28 per film.
Which possibly means that the Amazon price could end up as $199 or lower, if there’s a version of this set that is not a retail exclusive. It’s also been my experience that when Star Wars is released on a new format it is an event in itself, and I’ve ended up upgrading my TV and sound system each time, in 2004 and 2011 respectively. That said, I’m hoping that Star Wars coming out on 4K UHD will increase the number of new buyers
to the 4K UHD format.
Does anyone happen to have a VHS preservation/rip of the first Empire Strikes Back VHS (or Beta) release from 1984? Would love to see it again. Thanks:)
The TN1 CED version is the sped-up PAL version, released in the US so that they wouldn’t have to use 2 CED caddies.
Thanks!😃 I think the Extended Play LD used that too? It was time compressed I think.
Does anyone happen to have a VHS preservation/rip of the first Empire Strikes Back VHS (or Beta) release from 1984? Would love to see it again. Thanks:)
The new masters are now also on google play/youtube.
Are they also on Itunes now?
Yes, although they’re not in 4K, just 1080P HD (I think)
A question from a noob: These new 4K transfers, while one can see so much more detail and clarity, also look lifeless and drab, like a lot of modern films. Compared to the vivid and rich colors of Harmy’s Despecialized Editions (i.e. ESB 2.0, which reminded me a lot of of seeing the OT in theaters in 1977-1983) to these unsaturated colors of the new masters, these just look sterile and over processed. Why is that? Is it because too much HDR was used? Would appreciate any info given.
Many thanks in advance!😃
Can that be done? And would it yield a 10 or even 12 bit image? That would be awesome!
As for whether this changes anything for Despecialized, yes, the change is that I will now definitely be waiting for the 4K Blu-Ray or at least a full bitrate 4k web-dl as a source.
I will be greatly looking forward to those, Harmy! Will continue to enjoy your ESB 2.0 until then!!😃
If anyone here went to go see the 3D release of The Phantom Menace, please tell me what the master and color grading looked like. Did it look like the 2011 Blu-ray, or this new Disney+ version?
If anyone can actually remember what that particular color grading looked like for a movie they saw once, maybe twice, in theaters seven years ago, I’ll be impressed!
All, I remember is that I went opening day to see Episode I in 3D, and there was only one other person in the theatre besides myself, and that the 3D itself was very underwhelming. It looked like the blu-ray to me.
I cannot believe they changed the Greedo scene yet again. You’ve got to be kidding me. It’s a joke at this point.
On the positive side, the colors look a lot more natural and closer to the originals than the Blu-rays and the DVDs. Oh well…I’ll stick to 4k77 and Despecialized and stay away from this mess.
Ditto for me!!!
Looking at the screenshots posted so far, it does look like a new master but not necessarily a new scan, because the clarity/detail level is comparable to or worse than the 2004 masters.
It might be that they simply found the 2004 digital masters before the color grading and sharpening and upscaled them and gave them a new grade, which would have been necessary for HDR anyway.
Harmy,
I’m sticking with your Despecialized editions!!!
Remake the OT???
Seeing that Jar Jar / Boss Nass screenshot, I’m afraid of seeing a 4k version of TPM. Some CGI shots didn’t aged well.
Same for all of the Special Edition CGI
In a word, No.
Trailer searches? I wasn’t aware the trailer for TROS was even out yet.
(Likely soon though - along with the PR machine kicking in with adverts, promos, tie-ins and merchandising etc…)
The article on google search, and trailers is about movies in general, not Star Wars specifically. However, the teaser for TROS on the official channel currently stands at 33 mio views compared to 44 mio for TLJ, if that is any indication. The total views for TROS seem to have been higher compared to TFA and TLJ:
The PR machine for all Disney films has followed a pretty similar trajectory, so while it’s early days, the difference in interest (as measured by google trends) thusfar is quite significant, but I will keep following its progress over the next few months.
They’ll still take our money at the cinema kiosk for TROS come December, yes?
Sure!
The official trailer might be released at D23 Expo later this month in Anaheim.
It makes no sense to me why Disney would re-issue the 2011 discs with a digital copy next month, when the apparent plan is to put out a 4K box set in the first half of next year. This makes me very concerned that the 4K box, if they include standard blu-rays, will only be the 2011 ones. I was hoping Disney would not follow the Lucasfilm route of releasing multiple editions, but instead put out an Ultimate Box set to end all box sets so to speak. Pardon me for venting, but all I can say is, I’m so glad I’ve got Harmy’s DEs and 4K77/83!!!
I cannot wait for this!!!😃