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#1669242
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⭐ Star Wars' <strong>50th anniversary</strong> in 2027 ⭐ | Your hopes and expectations <em>(if any)</em>...
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Good question MORC!

Obviously, with the newer 1997 dubs, Disney won’t have much to do other than remix them, but what about the near-lost or “technically inadequate” quality dubs? (these were prepared for the first cinema and/or TV/VHS release only that year.)

A very good example is the lost/incomplete dubbing, a Turkish cinema dubbing made in 1979-80, considered a legend until recently. 10-15% of the dubbing are is missing. Can this be found in any archive from another source, will it be possible to replace/fixing it? In its current state, it only exists in vhs quality.

Examples of original cinema and TV/VHS dubs: In Hungarian terms, the mantra from Lucas/the distributor has always been (because of THX??) that this and that dub is technically not of adequate quality, and in terms of dubbing, it is not uniform, so we do not use it, we have to make a new one. Here, the 3rd dubs are only officially available. (Cinema: 1997, this was inherited by the 2011 BD and newer releases, with minor changes.) While, among the first dubbings, ESB was already included in Hungarian dubbing, in domestic cinemas (1981-1982), in the case of ANH, Magyar Televízíó created a dubbing for it (1984), in the case of ROTJ, for the GUILD VHS release (1993) these were completed. (Or could it still be lost here as well as elsewhere?) I wonder if there will be a new release containing official “Hungarian aspects”, what will be included on the discs??

Or rather, should we trash the 1997/2011 dub and make a completely new one? (However, I’m afraid of that. How demanding, well-done work will it be?) I think the older/original dubs have a large fan base elsewhere. Many people also like them, compared to the newer versions. These were made for copies before 1997SE, almost without exception.

In place of the above questions, could the German cinema/vhs dubs, in the case of their language, the fate of early dubs in Spanish, Italian, French and many other languages, each according to their own country/language, what will be the fate of these? They would still live on in the form of fan edits by fans, maybe there will be a TV/cinema presentation again, but they will be left out as home videos, from the new distribution?

Similarly, an interesting question is what will happen to the unique Opening/Ending Credits in different languages ​​(Hungarian, Italian, French, German, etc.)? For the BD/digital releases, these were solved with CGI, although they also exist in 16/35mm format. Will these also be scanned and pasted into the 1977 US/UK cinema copy they are currently working on? Or, which national film archives still have early 1977/1981 16/35mm prints, could they even appear as local extras? Even then, let’s not even talk about the many copies with subtitled in specific languages. (ex: Hungarian subtitles and english dubbed prints.)

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#1628045
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Star Wars UK TV Broadcast dates
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screams in the void: I can confirm that the colors are much more lifelike in the transmission of PAL recordings than their NTSC counterparts. The same can be said for the even rarer SECAM recordings. NTSC, perhaps, does not withstand multi-generational losses as well as most PAL standard recordings. There are plenty of examples of these on YT.

Check it Hungarian Christmas day 1984 premiere colors. 😃
ps: The only drawback is the SECAM noise band, due to the 2nd generation copy.

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#1627754
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Star Wars: SDTV &amp; HDTV digital broadcast * database *
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skywalker89 said:

Hello guys, I wasn’t here for a long time, but I’m back now.

By the way, I’m from Germany and could provide you the censored version of Revenge of the Sith from Pro7 and a rere Kabel1 record, both from December 2020 in 1080p with German DD5.1 from DVB-S2 HD+. I recorded them without commercials, but could replace them from a lower quality SD source. I think I also have the last German HDTV broadacast from Sat1 from 2022 from HD+. And I will record the original Trilogy from German Disney Channel, they start next week and show one every Thursday and repeat it on Saturday.

https://www.schnittberichte.com/schnittbericht.php?ID=755694
https://www.fernsehserien.de/star-wars/sendetermine

I have some IPTV records from Hungarina channels Moziverzum and Mozi+, the 2019 versions with new Hungarian localised opening crawls, without the voice overs, that were used in all other Hungairtna veresions. Only A New Hope used the 2011 version, but with the localised opening crawl from 2015. I need to check if they’re complete and edit them. I recorded them with VLC player on my PC from a suspicious IPTV provider, that has a bunch of different channels. The picture should be a less compressed 1080p, but the audio is just a heavily compressed stereo in Hungarian language.

Many years ago, my aunt, who lives in Hungary, also recorded all the Star Wars movies from Hungarian RTL Klub, from SDTV with DVD-T2. I think those are the 2015 digital collection versions in original widescreen, also already with the Hungarian localised opening crawls, excpet for A new Hope, which is the 2004 DVD version in low quality and cropped to 16:9. But all have high quality 2.0 Hungarian and English audio.

Can you post a few sample pictures or videos of these TV shows??? I have DVB-T recordings from RTL KLUB from 2018/19 (I think up to 7 or 8 episodes), but I prefer VHS recordings from the early 2000s. All of them, including the PT/OT trilogies. There is also a VIASAT DVB-T recording (I think AXN also showed them around 2015), from episodes EP4-6. Is there a “pirate?”, I think an unofficial, IPTV-only copy from after 2020, but the ANH MP4 file is unsaveable. (The atom-chunks or something from the end of the file are missing.)

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#1623711
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Star Wars: SDTV &amp; HDTV digital broadcast * database *
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Higher resolution copy its available from Italian Canale5 broadcast? Nice find! SECAM-recordings?

I saw a topic here on the forum, years ago, about the Italian factory VHS releases, I think some samples were shared, from the digitizations made of these first exclusive (rental or retail) releases of the films, in the form of 3000kbps Xvid AVIs. (From ANH, there must have been samples uploaded.)

The German SAT1 trilogy recordings are also quite missing, I’ve never seen ROTJ like this. There is a Silver Screen (1990 release?) VHSRIP of it, from this part.

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#1622042
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Theater Performance Edition: Return of the Jedi betamax bootleg preservation (Released)
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I have both ROTJ and ESB, but the main source of my problem is the crappy internet, which is that I can upload them anywhere, within a reasonable amount of time… (Old technology from the early 2000s. Oh well, it’s faster than 56kbps.)

Are Moth3r and the other PreANH vhs bootlegs also being searched for?? TPM from Hungary? MOKÉP-related stuff?

Where to store these?

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#1592959
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Theater Performance Preservations
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Funny ESB recordings found!

Hungarian dubbed TeleCine bootleg or Off-Air (public) TV recordings from late '80s years sourced from MTV1 or MTV2 tv-channels??? Recorded via from SECAM format. (probably 2nd generation copy…)

See this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Pqkp04389w

UPDATE: Comparison video!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dkBi4mHoUXA

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#1583001
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ORIGINAL CINEMA RECORDINGS
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Msgdm said:
Well, it’s a very old dvd from late 2006 far as i know, now its very scratch and very unwatchable, i have no cd-driver on my pc to extract the files and because the DVD damage all of my current dvd players cannot read him, i tried one time on my ps2 and works, but now it can’t read again 😦

The content was basically the entire ROTS with the brazilian cinema reaction, some parts are not on focus (i remember to be the dialogue scenes and jedi concil scenes, probably the recorder get tired to focus and take a rest) and the audio is very poor in quality, now im searching a cd-rom on some marketplaces to try extract the content

Thank you for the introduction! I also have such a ROTS record, also from that time. In principle, I also have a compressed ISO copy of it, it is still in relatively good condition. It has Hungarian cinema dubbing, which was placed under the image of a foreign pirate copy. (TUN release?) I hope that one day a genuine Hungarian cinema VHS recording of the film will be released. (Like TPM, 3+ years ago.)

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#1554449
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iso star wars tv recordings
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The OT SW films, aired or not from FILMNET PayTV networks via cca. ~1986 to 1996 years? European or UK or any country only??? (My tips: Not!)

Or any channels: TeleClub, Premiere, Sky, TV1000 ??

The HBO and Canal+ aired from Castillian lang countries in early '90s years.

HBO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JtRosDjPVe0
Canal+ : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3U-2-u7auZE

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#1550968
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Info Wanted: What is the preservation project closest to the original 1977 release?
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Molto said:

I’ve got a bootleg on beta of a new hope. From what I was told it is sourced from an airlines copy made sometime in 79’ or so. Quality isn’t so hot but I think it’s quite close to the theatrical cut.

Sorry bumping from very old thread…

These bootleg tape archived/digitized in previous 15+ years??? Or few audio clips only?

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#1550307
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Theater Performance Preservations
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none said:

Revenge of the Sith

2005-05-19 20:31:53 - Workprint - VCD
Star.Wars.Episode.3.PROPER.WP.VCD-SG18
http://www.vcdq.com/release/14788/Star.Wars.Episode.3.PROPER.WP.VCD-SG18
http://web.archive.org/web/20050520033051/http://www.vcdreview.com/info.php/i-52286.html

The first leaked workprint released on 2005.05.19. or 2005.05.18. ???

https://www.fiero.nl/forum/Archives/Archive-000003/HTML/20050818-6-033370.html