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#1293825
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Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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They got rid of the shallow depth of field effect so that the tree isn’t blurry as it’s popping out of the screen right into your face.

Retroactively converting movies to 3D is one of the dumbest things.

Yes, and they haven’t done a good job either. I watched the 3D in cinema, not every scene was done properly. I’m a fan of 3D but if done properly. No point in doing it for a traditional animation really.

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#1293500
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Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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spoRv said:

Thanks for your kind words!

Agree, I went maybe a bit too far with noise reduction but, hey, it was one of my first projects, and also the source is what it is… 😄
About grain, it was not present in the LD - or, at least, resolution did not preserve it so well.

Watching it with fresh eyes, the only reason to prefer this to BD is color grading and few shots that were changed in the BD; if I would update this, I’d use BD as main source, regrading it as LD, leaving only the changed shots as in the actual project.

Awesome job still. Yes, probably no grain in the LD, I just mean the noise or whatever it was that needed the filter. I think without that it will look much better.

So far the 3D BD is the closest to the theatrical version. I’ve noticed the changes that were made to the previous BDs, was reverted back to the original for the 3D. The colors are also slightly better but still not good enough.

The LD color that you were able to get in your project is perfect and in my opinion the correct colors because it is the original colors minus the pink/magenta overlay present in LD.

I still prefer the LD because even the 3D BD has some weird changes that other version don’t have (Maybe problems with 3D). An example is the opening scene where it is zooming in on the castle, the roses on the left side of the screen are in focus and sharp at all times when they move out of view but in the other versions (the original shot) it blurs or gets the camera focus effect. So much more depth.

I have the complete Disney collection on US LD and Japanese LD + a player, and an HD capture device.
I would like to contribute somehow. What do you use to capture and upscale the LD with such great results?
Although my device captures in full HD, when the source is LD, it automatically captures it at 480px instead of upscaled to HD.

So I would love to see a perfect upscaled capture of the LD with the excellent colors your project has with no filters. Wondering if you have that available or you have tips for me so I can work on my LD and get better results.

Your input is appreciated

Thank you

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#1293273
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Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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I discovered this website and spoRv’s project a bit late and would’ve liked to be involved in the process somehow, but I have a couple of comments.

I watched this version and I literally got goosebumps a few times.
Great picture quality. The colors are the best of BATB I’ve seen. That slight pinkish overlay color I see on the LD was masterfully removed and the sound quality is so crisp and amazing.

The only thing is, I would have liked to see less noise reduction or blurring. It helped some scenes to be clearer for sure but it caused some sort of distortion of faces and other details such as the opening scene of the castle, flowers, and small elements on the screen. It was more noticeable for me than the original grain.

Is there a version available that doesn’t have that filter applied to it at all or maybe less?
I am wondering if sporRv can provide another version with the original grain present.

What’s your opinion?

Thank you so much for such a good job and letting us experience the movie in the best way.

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#1292324
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Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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thefuryx said:

Hey, all.

Not-so-new to the site, but my first time answering on posts. Just wanted to let you guys know that I’ve not only found the release through Google (someone mentioned a citrus), but I’ve also completed acquisition.

I am also looking for this but no Luck. Would you please give me some more info about how I can find it? Citrus, Google?! 😉

Thanks

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#1292296
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Disney's Beauty and the Beast [spoRv] *BD-25 RELEASED*
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I have been trying to find this.
Does anyone have a link to download the file or know anyone that has it and can be contacted?
I have the US Laserdisc and The Japanese Box set Laserdisc of BATB. Would gladly show proof.

And just curious about spoRv 's work. Isn’t the work done on this project archived anywhere?
Why wouldn’t it be available anymore?

Any info is appreciated.

Thanks for all the good work and the amazing people who care about art.

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#1291912
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Walt Disney Classics 4K
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SpringBoob SquirePin said:

Beauty and the Beast’s CAPS source ratio is 1.66, yes, but it was hard matted to 1.85 on 35mm as the directors intended. There’s a preservation project currently in progress for an Italian print somewhere on this site with the same ratio. The only way you can see the film as close to the original CAPS ratio as possible in HD is through the 3-D Blu-ray. Same for Lion King.

Thanks for the info. Do you know how many of these titles have been scanned and available?

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#1291886
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Walt Disney Classics 4K
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I’m sorry my bad. The original negative was 1.66 but now the top and bottom has been cropped to fit 16:9.
I have the BATB Laserdisc and it is letterboxed which shows the complete picture.

If you take a look at the link below or google BATB laserdisc bluray comparison, You’ll see what I mean.

http://stayornay.com/toons/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/BatB-WIP-Compare-11.jpg

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#1291854
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Walt Disney Classics 4K
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This is my absolute dream. I don’t even know how you can find the 35mm films.

Beauty and the Beast is the one on this list that I’m dying to find. This title has suffered the most among the renaissance era after remastering for DVD and Bluray since the Laserdisc release.

The original academy ratio of 1.37:1 has been changed to 16:9, causing cropping and losing parts of the picture. The color changes to brighten the film also are drastically different and looks awful.

Please let me know how this process can be done. And I’d like to know how I can contribute.

Thanks