petzxy

adywan said:

petzxy said:

I'm glad that most work is done with ESB-R. Here are though some questions/suggestions:

1. Is it possible to have the sky still while the tauntaun is attacked by the Wampa? Now the camera is moving up to make it look like the tauntaun is falling.

That's exactly how it's always been since 1980. I have done nothing to camera movements.

And 005 has answered the others :)

 Thanks for the answer (and good luck, you have my support)!

This will be my last entry in this thread (if there is nothing else I can come up with that is important), see you all in the Return of the jedi thread!   :-)

I'm glad that most work is done with ESB-R. Here are though some questions/suggestions:

1. Is it possible to have the sky still while the tauntaun is attacked by the Wampa? Now the camera is moving up to make it look like the tauntaun is falling.

2. Please Adywan don't give the wampa more screen time than in the original version! Jaws was exciting because we didn't see much of the fish. The worst thing with SE was that they had to show that the wampa had lost his arm. I can hear Homer Simpson saying "oh, I thought that was Chewbaccas arm!"

3. When the AT-AT steps on Lukes snowspeeder, is it possible to make the step look more heavier (speed it up or animate it lower so that the snowspeeder gets more damage?). Also the ground should vibrate with Luke so near the AT-AT. Maybe do the last step more stopmotion-like?

4. At the end of the movie when R2-D2 finally put the Falcon in light speed, I would like to have the universe rotate like it always has been. ANH had a different effect.

For all of you (and me!) that have suggestions of alterations, please concentrate of these things that bothered you 10 years ago or longer (or in ANH-R about the lightspeed), I can't imagine anybody here for example who had thought of Lukes visor in the snowspeeder-cockpit in the 1990s. Think instead of the first time you saw Star Wars, what would you have liked to change at that time? 

ChainsawAsh said:

petzxy said:

I have a question: in the original version of ESB at the end of the Hoth Battle, we see an AT-AT shooting down a snowspeeder, and there is a sort of airplane sound before it crashes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxAs1Q8Obxk

But in later versions the sound is almost gone! I think it was better with the old sound because it added more chaos to the scene (better feeling). Is it possible to re-insert the sound?

The old theatrical version that is out there on the internet (I think it is from the double dvd of ESB) is not that old, it doesn't have this sound OR transparent snowspeeders so you won't find the sound there. I think the sound only exist in VHS-versions that came before the Special Editions in 1997 (Maybe on laser disc if it excist?)

This sound effect was inexplicably (accidentally, most likely) removed from the 1993 "Definitive Collection" audio remix, which is what's present on the "Theatrical Version" disc in the 2006 2-DVD set.

The effect is there in the 1980 theatrical mix, and the 1985 home video remix.  I don't know if it's in the SE, because I haven't watched either version of the SE since I learned of this sound effect issue.

I'm fairly certain Ady will restore this sound effect, but I don't think he's confirmed it yet.  In fact, I'm pretty sure he's not working on the sound mix until after the video's done, so he's got some time before he has to worry about this!

(Also, not to thread-hijack, but if you want a DVD of the theatrical cut with this sound intact, dark_jedi will be releasing a DVD soon that has all the audio mixes included, along with a cleaned-up, anamorphic version of the 2006 DVD video.  You can learn more about this in the "Star Wars Preservations and Other Fan Projects" section of the forum.)

 Thanks for the info! If there are any other sounds missing, I hope they will be re-inserted as well.

I have a question: in the original version of ESB at the end of the Hoth Battle, we see an AT-AT shooting down a snowspeeder, and there is a sort of airplane sound before it crashes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZxAs1Q8Obxk

But in later versions the sound is almost gone! I think it was better with the old sound because it added more chaos to the scene (better feeling). Is it possible to re-insert the sound?

The old theatrical version that is out there on the internet (I think it is from the double dvd of ESB) is not that old, it doesn't have this sound OR transparent snowspeeders so you won't find the sound there. I think the sound only exist in VHS-versions that came before the Special Editions in 1997 (Maybe on laser disc if it excist?)

adywan said:

In fact the "augghhhh" sounds like he's throwing up in his helmet. If i can eliminate the gurgling effect then i'll probably be returning it back to its original state as the SE effect is just a repeat from a few seconds earlier.

Adywan, If you choose the SE sound from 97, please change it a bit so it sounds more different than a repeat (maybe an echo would do the trick?)

And now to something completely different!

asterisk8 said:

petzxy said:

At Bespin, in the 1980 version when Vader falls back in the carbonite chamber, he says "AAAARR". In the newer version (from 1997 and forward) he says "OOOF", the same line reprised as when Luke put the fog in Vaders face a short moment before. Is Adywan going back to the original line? I think that when you fall backwards, it's more likely that you actually say "AAAARR" instead of "OOOF"!

^

HERE IS AN ACTUAL NEW SUGGESTION that has gotten lost amid rehashes of old debates that were settled a year ago.

 Thanks, asterisk8!

If it's not going to be fixed back to the original version by some reason (for example that the new version suits better) I think it's ok. It's just that I think it's a pity if it's simply forgotten! Of course it's a tiny detail, but not more tiny than C-3PO's shadow should be flipped 2 inches to the left  ;-)

At Bespin, in the 1980 version when Vader falls back in the carbonite chamber, he says "AAAARR". In the newer version (from 1997 and forward) he says "OOOF", the same line reprised as when Luke put the fog in Vaders face a short moment before. Is Adywan going back to the original line? I think that when you fall backwards, it's more likely that you actually say "AAAARR" instead of "OOOF"!

Thanks Doubleofive for the input about the childhood feeling of the upcoming ESB:R. I'll hope it will feel like when I read the Marvel comics album in the beginning of the 80s (before I saw the actual film!)    :-)

One question: It's been a while since I saw ESB, but I think I remember in the beginning that Darth Vader says "I'm sure Skywalker is with them, set the course for the Hoth system!". Then later Darth Vader talks to the McDiarmid emperor (new scene from 2004) who doesn't seem to know about Luke by name (maybe I missed something?) at first. Is Adywan going to remove Vaders line in the beginning of the movie or how is this handled? If the present officers (Veers, Ozzel, Piett) knew about Skywalker, wouldn't the emperor do so also?  

Thanks for the information about EU!

In Swedish magazine MAD, Han Solo was named Hans Olof....  (common names for 60+ swedes)                  :-)   

Pardon me, I'm kind of new here. I wonder what EU stands for? I am only aware of European Union (in Europe) and Eftersändning Upphörd (in Sweden)

I couldn't find an FAQ for this forum.