oojason

T34655 said:

I started to watch Ep1:Shadow of the Sith by L8wrtr and so
far it is awesome. A HUGE improvement over the DVD version!

My media player is having trouble with the ISO however and it
stops working at about 12 mins into the movie. I need to figure
out how to take it apart and convert it into a single MKV file.

I find VLC player to be pretty decent at playing back iso files mate. It’s free and easy to use - and not too heavy on the computer power.

You may get more answers about it if you post this in the ‘Memorabilia Discussion and Buying/Selling/Trading’ forum, here - http://originaltrilogy.com/discussion/Memorabilia-Discussion-and-Buying-Selling-Trading/id/8 - mate.

Had to google Yak Face - can’t remember it from the films, though looks cool. Was he in Jabba’s Palace or barge or something like that?

Some of the Prequel Edits that interested me (back in the day - or more in the present time) for whatever long forgotten reason(s) reason were/are:-

JasonN Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/JasonNs-PT-FanEdits-Attack-of-the-Federation-Twilight-of-the-Republic-and-The-Black-Knight-Rises-Revised-V3-Cuts-In-The-Works/id/10114

MagnoliaFan Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Magnoliafan-Edits-Balance-and-Clone-War/id/987

ADigitalMan Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-ADigitalMan-Special-Editions-DVD-Info-and-Feedback-Thread/id/2446/page/1

Hal9000 Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Episode-I-Cloak-Of-Deception-Finished/id/15663

Q2 Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Fall-of-the-Jedi-Trilogy/id/13959

L8wrtr’s Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/SW-EP-1-Shadow-of-the-Sith-by-L8wrtr/id/11778

TM2YC Edits - http://fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/79-fanedit-listings/fanfix/906-star-wars-episode-i-the-phantom-menace-reborn

Father Merrin Edits - http://www.fanedit.org/ifdb/component/content/article/79-fanedit-listings/fanfix/160-star-wars-episode-one-child-of-the-force

TVFrink’s Edits - http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Episode-I-The-Ridiculous-Menace-FULL-MOVIE-IS-AVAILABLE-TO-STREAM-SEE-FIRST-POST/id/12452

^ and that’s not listing the various ‘3-in-1’ Edits out there, or all the Prequel Edits I’ve obviously just missed down the years… (Kerr, Slumberland, Seciors, MrInsaneA, SithLord, Kwan, PhantomEditor, Bear Edit, etc)

FrankT said:

Arrow “White Box” Blu-rays - Reversible sleeve

A box for the entire trilogy. Unfinished - anticipated release around the time of ROTJ 2.0; it’s likely that I’ll be using phildesfr’s ISOs for feature reference.

Beautiful mate - looking forward to getting hold of these to use as covers for my Harmy set 😃

Many thanks - and keep up the great work!

Hopefully these may be of some use - though best check the exact times to see if they match Harmy’s DeSepecialized Editions…

At least you’ll have the Chapter Titles and an approximate time (seems you can download in an .xml file or .txt file too)…

SW - http://www.chapterdb.org/browse/39
ESB - http://www.chapterdb.org/browse/1011
ROTJ - http://www.chapterdb.org/browse/120983

chyron8472 said:

I seem to have deleted my backup of the NTSC format Returning to Jedi. Can someone please reseed it on the spleen?

I can’t help you with that mate - but if you’re struggling to find anyone to help out then all 3 of JD’s Filmumentaries are up on vimeo and available to download (RTJ is around 2gb in 1280x720 resolution - and more options):-

Star Wars Begins - https://vimeo.com/32442801
Building Empire - http://vimeo.com/36158111
Returning To Jedi - https://vimeo.com/36474256

John Doom said:

oojason said:

[…] Whilst your statements are selectively evasive, circular and repetitive like in the ‘Merry Sue’ thread (nice edits in there on taking out the ‘…I’ve never said Rey was perfect…’ in your later posts - to the first line of your first post in there which was ‘She’s too perfect…’), so I’ll stop posting in here.

Arrivederci 😃

Arriverderci un corno :\ I can stand that we have different opinions, but I can’t stand such an accusation without a reply. I swear I only edit my posts to fix the grammar and make the content clearer and clearer, improving and completing it (I admit sometimes I rush things 😄) , but I’ve NEVER edited a post after someone had already replied me. So whatever you read in my edited posts, rest assured that it’s the same, just better.

My apologies if that is the case with the reference to ‘…I’ve never said Rey was perfect…’ line - though with all the editing in your posts it is something which I’m quite certain was there earlier, in fact it now reads ‘never once I said that I disliked Rey for not making mistakes and being “too perfect”’. It wasn’t an accusation - just an example. I notice yet again the suggestions/questions made earlier are still missed/ignored (but that’s ok - wasn’t expecting anything else).

Apologies to cyclista and others for derailing.

John Doom said:

I’m not forcing you to agree, I’m ok with it. But you should quote and consider the entire context, before making a point I anyone can take into consideration. Here, these 2 posts with their relative quotes are enough: 1st and 2nd.

P.S.: So much better using old-school links instead of quotes, to avoid building a wall of text 😄

Hello again! Yes, the wall of text can get get a bit much at times.

Re the other part of your post - No mate, I don’t have to quote the whole thing. Though, yes - I have managed to read this thread, consider the posts and then reply. No, I know you’re not forcing me to agree with it (whatever that means).

And, no - I didn’t really think it my suggestion/question that you may find the answers you were seeking about ‘things are getting intense in this forum’ issue?’ in a new thread would be answered by you.

Goodbye again?

Actually, I think I’m now derailing the thread - and it seems you certainly don’t want answers to questions in your own thread. Whilst your statements are selectively evasive, circular and repetitive like in the ‘Merry Sue’ thread (nice edits in there on taking out the ‘…I’ve never said Rey was perfect…’ in your later posts - to the first line of your first post in there which was ‘She’s too perfect…’), so I’ll stop posting in here.

Arrivederci 😃

Lord Haseo said:

oojason said:

Lord Haseo said:

oojason said:

Lord Haseo said:

I also loved how in that brief scene they established Poe and Finn being friends far better than us being told Anakin and Obi-Wan were friends in the Prequels.

yet it happens quite casually and seemingly naturally in TFA with Pe & Finn.

And then again with Finn and Rey. While I believe that they’re not meant for each other romantically their friendship was developed pretty well. I mean even though they barely knew each other I could feel genuine woe emanating from Rey as Finn was being dragged off by a Rathtar.

Yes, you can see and feel that moment where Rey thinks that this man Finn, shows genuinely concern for her - something she may not have been used to on Jakku in her environment before and seems taken aback by it, and this, amongst other scenes is obviously strengthened by him Han and Chewy coming to try and free her on Starbase Killer later on. Her scenes with an injured Finn just before she leaves to find Luke was very well played too.

All this makes me wonder how Finn would react if she turned to the dark side because it’s quite possible that the next time they meet she’ll be a darksider. The only reason I say this is because I think the Finn/Poe dynamic will become more prominent due to Rey training with Luke.

or at least on here way / being tempted to the Dark Side - which will be interesting to see how Finn also reacts to that (and his strong relationship with Rey) as he’s already made that decision to have left that ‘side’ of things. And that’s on top of like you say the Poe/Finn pairing will likely be a theme too… TFA has certainly laid some pretty decent groundwork and possibilities for the next films.

John Doom said:

oojason said:

Well, I hope what you said doesn’t derail thie thread - like cyclista has just stated ‘in this thread - love only’. Perhaps if you’d like to talk about your side note you could start a new thread?, or attempt genuine dialogue on the subject in the very thread in which there are a few opposing viewpoints?

It wasn’t and it’s not my intention to derail this thread, so I’ll leave again after this post, but truth be told: cyclista wasn’t “reproving” me, but someone who started arguing on what I like in TFA, on my viewpoint. So my “side note” is actually pretty relevant in this thread (along with other ones), as I wrote it to answer to cyclista’s request, advising people to stay on the thread instead of immediately “accuse” people like it happened to me.
Done, bye 😄

Yes, of course saying:-

“On a side note, is it me, or things are getting a bit “intense” in this forum? Maybe I’m being misinterpreted, but I do have to say that lately, when I step on a thread about TFA, I’m by some immediately wrongly “accused” of considering this movie “garbage”, and of “bashing” it because it’s trendy or something 😄 )”

is in answer to cyclista’s request advising people to stay on thread instead of immediately accuse(ing) people like it happened to you…

Which is why you may find the answers you seek in creating your own thread on ‘things are getting intense in this forum’ issue?

Good luck with this, and bye for now 😃

cyclista said:

This might be something ultra-important about the Disney contribution. Disney teams are probably all highly skilled in emotion portrayal. Lucas was, frankly, awful at that. IMHO structuring believable, resonant emotional connections between characters in the PT is the second most urgent task for any faneditor to tackle, the primary/foundational trifecta of course being the removal of Jar-Jar, midichlorians, and racist stereotypes. The emotional connections are the more subtle and difficult of the two to handle.

Yes, Disney are very skilled = and experienced - in getting that emotional portrayal across in their movies. I also think JJ and his team may have the same issue in getting people to like to the new crew in his first Star Trek film - probably a very important issue for him to handle that with a lot riding on the ST reboot - perhaps another tick in the box on the Disney ticksheet when going through the names they wanted to helm their new Star Wars film.

John Doom said:

(😄 On a side note, is it me, or things are getting a bit “intense” in this forum? Maybe I’m being misinterpreted, but I do have to say that lately, when I step on a thread about TFA, I’m by some immediately wrongly “accused” of considering this movie “garbage”, and of “bashing” it because it’s trendy or something 😄 )

Well, I hope what you said doesn’t derail thie thread - like cyclista has just stated ‘in this thread - love only’. Perhaps if you’d like to talk about your side note you could start a new thread?, or attempt genuine dialogue on the subject in the very thread in which there are a few opposing viewpoints?

Lord Haseo said:

oojason said:

Lord Haseo said:

I also loved how in that brief scene they established Poe and Finn being friends far better than us being told Anakin and Obi-Wan were friends in the Prequels.

yet it happens quite casually and seemingly naturally in TFA with Pe & Finn.

And then again with Finn and Rey. While I believe that they’re not meant for each other romantically their friendship was developed pretty well. I mean even though they barely knew each other I could feel genuine woe emanating from Rey as Finn was being dragged off by a Rathtar.

Yes, you can see and feel that moment where Rey thinks that this man Finn, shows genuinely concern for her - something she may not have been used to on Jakku in her environment before and seems taken aback by it, and this, amongst other scenes is obviously strengthened by him Han and Chewy coming to try and free her on Starbase Killer later on. Her scenes with an injured Finn just before she leaves to find Luke was very well played too.

Bingowings said:

oojason said:

Just in case it hasn’t been mentioned… any Editors could remove from the end credits the mention of the UK Chancellor - George Osbourne - from the film. Someone who cuts the benefits for the sick, disabled and mentally ill, cuts the NHS and other emergency services, cuts the HRMC (tax service) so it’s no longer fit to collect taxes or challenge big business avoiding paying their fair share, whilst the rest of us in the UK face even more cuts doesn’t really deserve to be in the film credits - even if he did give tax breaks to Disney.

Rant over. Sorry.

^ THIS comrade 😄

The proletariat shall be heard, my brother 😉

Just in case it hasn’t been mentioned… any Editors could remove from the end credits the mention of the UK Chancellor - George Osbourne - from the film. Someone who cuts the benefits for the sick, disabled and mentally ill, cuts the NHS and other emergency services, cuts the HRMC (tax service) so it’s no longer fit to collect taxes or challenge big business avoiding paying their fair share, whilst the rest of us in the UK face even more cuts doesn’t really deserve to be in the film credits - even if he did give tax breaks to Disney.

Rant over. Sorry.

Bingowings said:

I hate the end credits. Our evil Chancellor gets a mention FFS. The End Credits were the worst part of the movie.

FanEditors know what they have to do…

https://agentofhistory.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/jc-as-obk-1.jpg

Lord Haseo said:

I also loved how in that brief scene they established Poe and Finn being friends far better than us being told Anakin and Obi-Wan were friends in the Prequels.

Great point mate. One of the bugbears of the 3 previous films is that important friendship between Obi-Wan and Anakin was not satisfactorily seen or felt - yet it happens quite casually and seemingly naturally in TFA with Pe & Finn.

DrCrowTStarwarsreborn - I won’t tell you how you should feel, patronise you, say or something along the lines of ‘it’ll all be alright in the end’, but please remember this - I for one enjoyed your original post here and then arguing and articulating our viewpoints with others - albeit we had to repeat ourselves a few times…

Plus, Frink posts on here ‘frequently’ enough to know more than most he’ll be in misunderstandings in these threads!

Hope you feel better, and see you post again when ready, soon.

TV’s Frink said:

I thought Maz was fantastic. I don’t get the hate. Especially the “JUST A YODA COPY” complaints. What?

Yoda had a thing for Chewy too? j/k

cyclista - be interesting and fun for Maz to further reference her fondness for Chewy - it’s a good way of the writers fleshing out the characters well - and I hope we see more if in the future films; even if it’s something like Maz winking at him knowingly and him being all shy & coy and running off pretend he’s busy etc.

A bit like where Rey says to Finn ‘why are you holding my hand?’ when on the run - it not only establishes their character, but that bit of interplay, makes the characters a little bit more real, accessible and likeable.

I think it may have been something missing from the Prequels.

Anchorhead said:

joefavs said:

^Agreed. It’s been thrown around so much and so carelessly that it’s lost its specific meaning and become an excuse for dismissing something without bothering to articulate.

Exactly. It’s no different than Fanboy and Fanfic. Internet laziness for trolls.

Amen, lads.

TV’s Frink said:

That_OT_Ruler said:

joefavs said:

Couldn’t it be that -GASP- the character is supposed to be more powerful than Luke? Everyone’s treating this like they failed to portray a character on roughly ANH-era Luke’s level believably, but since when is that the cap on Force aptitude in this universe? Maybe Rey just does better than Luke because she is better than Luke.

The problem is it makes her unrelatable. I didn’t connect with her character at all. She was too perfect, didn’t have any flaws, didn’t dream of wanting more, or something that could maybe connect us to her personality. She was just… weird.

She didn’t dream of wanting more? She was weird?

I’ve barely read any reviews complaining about Rey not being a character you could connect with. Women and girls especially.

never has to be rescued

Well that’s not a sexist complaint.

The bits where she keeps telling Finn to stop holding her hand and she knows how to run were fantastic.

Good luck with the sexist who ignored/forgot that Rey needed rescuing off of the Starkiller Base as it was about to blow up by Chewy in the Falcon mate, not that you’ll need it.

Nice writing, that - the bits about the handholding and running (in amongst an already well-written and well-portrayed character).

I must now depart this place for a while - there may be some women out there that need rescuing… (the weirdos!)

DrCrowTStarwarsreborn said:

Well I wasn’t thinking of the prequels but that is a good point. I was basing it just on how much she looked like Luke when he was bashing away at Vader in Return of the Jedi, and after that he had to throw his lightsaber away to keep from turning to the dark side so it seems to me that striking in anger for any reason leads to the dark side in the Star Wars universe.

^ Same here - though I’ve bored even myself (and mates) silly with my belief/theory that Rey is Luke’s daughter so I’m trying not to read too much into more similarities that others have come across that may enforce this! lol. Having said that I’ve done it again in that Rey displaying a similar fighting style to Anakin could contribute just that little bit more to her being a Skywalker (whether intentional on the actress/filmmakers part - or a coincidence - or my strawclutching). Let alone similar to Luke… I need some sleep.

The rest of your post was for JD, yes?

In terms of the Sagas itself I liked the return of real sets - acting and reacting in a real environment or sets (or as close as). On my 1st viewing Maz and Snoke jumped out to me - they seemed somewhat fake, yet it wasn’t that the CGi was bad, it was that they were CGI characters in a ‘real’ film. On the 2nd and other viewings they didn’t jump out as much, and to be honest Maz has grown on me and Snoke does have that menace and intrigue about him.

It is probably because of the Prequel sets, the CGI characters in them, the stageiness/falseness of the PT sets, that ‘bad’ feeling about the Prequels, that they possibly jarred with me (and possibly others too?)

I also think they’ve nailed the characters - you actually identify with them, care about them, what is happening to them, what will happen to them in the coming films. I’ve not felt that about a Star Wars film in a long, long time… the filmmakers and the crew all did a great job.

DrCrowTStarwarsreborn said:

Yeah same here, sorry to say I am done for now.

Oh and I say she was using the dark side or at least in danger of falling to the dark side because in the OT when Luke struck at Vader in anger it pleased Palpatine because it put him well on the path to the dark side and Yoda ever said “A Jedi uses the force for Knowledge and defense, never attack” and Rey was clearly mad and attacking, at least as mad as Luke was in Jedi and since this movie does share a writer with Empire and Jedi I assume it is playing by the same rules that were put forward in those movies. I admit I could be wrong about this but a few people I have talked to came to the same conclusion I did without my telling them my idea after they saw the movie for the first time, so I am sticking with this idea until I am told it is wrong by another movie. That is all.

^ yes mate, the bit in the fight with Ren after she let the Force in when backed up on the cliff and she goes on the attack… after she hits him low down and then with a thrust to his shoulder - there is a grimace on her face and style/stance which reminded me of Anakin’s fighting style in ROTS (very confident, attacking style - and to a point, similar to Darth Maul’s) - she has the sabre behind her back ready for a chopping motion… and then they go onto clash and she kicks him to the floor.

Of course I’d have to go watch the Prequels again to verify it (my dodgy old memory - I could well be wrong) - and I really don’t want to have to watch those Prequels again 😉

With respect JD, I think you’re pausing to talk and shift what you say you mean around, not pausing to take in and listen, and your arguments are circular. For example…

your new reply 1 - ‘only referring to the fact she was able to fly the Falcon good enough to not get destroyed by the Tie-Fighters’… and then ‘not a real issue’. Which is it? Why didn’t you say that in the first place instead?

your new reply 2 - your ‘almost fully trained Jedi’… holding a lighsabre and still it’s a small knowledge of the Force (of all the force powers and abilities out there…)

your new reply 3 - ‘sometimes she doesn’t seem a true character fully enstablished’ - I fully disagree, she as a character developed over the film to her given situation and environment as stated before.

your new reply 4 - it contradicts your own claims in your new reply 2. Which is it - ‘she barely knows what it is’ or ‘almost full trained jedi’?

your new reply 5 - he’s now ‘drawing power from the Darkside’ because another user on here said so? Again, that’s quite a reach.

your new reply 6 - ‘Which, again, is something she does but never explained how or even hinted’ - erm… Maz hints at it where she says that Luke’s sabre is calling to her… and Maz tells her about the Force - “it moves through and around every living thing”, “close your eyes… feel it… the Light. It’s always been there - it will guide you.” - after the Force Visions where she touches Luke’s lightsabre. As I stated before the Force guided Rey when she let it in after she was her getting beat by Rey (you know, the bit where she closed her eyes and let the Force in?)

I’ve done you the courtesy of answering your statements and questions - but as I stated above, your posts shift in what you mean, your arguments are circular - and you don’t seem to have taken in what others have said - so I hope you understand why I won’t be replying to you again on this. Thank you.