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#1058671
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

TV’s Frink said:

I’ll repeat this one last time. And it’s not directed at Fo because that’s clearly a dead end.

http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/23/politics/adam-schiff-trump-russia-grand-jury/

The top Democrat on the House Intelligence Committee is claiming that he has been presented with new information on collusion between associates of President Donald Trump and Russia that would merit a grand jury investigation.

Rep. Adam Schiff told CNN Thursday that he had seen additional evidence, but would not specify what it was.

“We continue to get new information that, I think, paints a more complete picture of at least what we know at the outset of our investigation,” Schiff said.

Asked to explain his comments earlier in the week when he said there was more than just “circumstantial evidence of collusion,” Schiff said, "I do think that it’s appropriate to say that it’s the kind of evidence that you would submit to a grand jury at the beginning of an investigation.

“It’s not the kind of evidence that you take to a trial jury when you’re trying to prove something beyond a reasonable doubt. But we’re at the beginning of an investigation, and given the gravity of the subject matter, I think that the evidence certainly warrants us doing a thorough investigation.”

If anyone can point out the bias and inaccuracy in this, feel free.

No-one will or can - as there is no bias or inaccuracy in there.

We are seemingly in an age where people and organisations are trying to present their opinion as fact possibly more than ever before - and when those same people are questioned on it they often cannot come up with facts/evidence to make their point - they generally then claim it as opinion (often under ‘free speech’), or deflect or obfuscate.

Thankfully more and more people are seeing it for what it is.

 

(that’s not to say news organisations shouldn’t be questioned - or challenged when reporting is substandard, slanted or untruthful/lacking in fact - we’ve likely seen some pieces which fall into one or more of these categories from most, if not all, media outlets over time)

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#1058596
Topic
The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
Time

SilverWook said:

oojason said:

Thought this was kinda cool…

https://www.etsy.com/uk/listing/498743333/retro-vhs-star-wars-rogue-one-night?

other sci-fi franchises catered for too - the DS9 looks great as well

It’s a little odd doing it for things like DS9 which actually did come out on VHS though. 😉

There is a part of me which wants to try and rig one of those nightlamp things up myself - think I still have a DS9 tape somewhere in a box in the loft…

The other part of me knows I’ll mess it up - and make a mess - or have forgotten about it by tomorrow 😃

Post
#1058560
Topic
The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
Time

DuracellEnergizer said:

I’ve absolutely never seen a VHS label featuring artwork.

Aye, I think most of the labels on my vhs tapes had a white background with some black text on about the film or tv program - sometimes it’d have a different colour logo of the film distributor on it - though to be honest I can’t remember 100%!

For some reason I think a few of the later released tapes may have had different colour labels - but not much artwork on at all

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#1058556
Topic
The Random <em>Star Wars</em> Pics &amp; GIFs Thread
Time

The similar Star Wars cover (from swonvideo.com), was this:-


http://www.swonvideo.com/vhs/imageslarge/vvhsesb1984usfront.jpg
http://www.swonvideo.com/vhs/imageslarge/vvhsrotj1984usfront.jpg

it’s fairly colourful, though I do remember a lot of vhs covers being quite plain - or washed out - likely to have been rentals or on cheap paper maybe?

Post
#1058522
Topic
Custom American ROTS VHS cover?
Time

There is an Australian VHS cover for Revenge Of The Sith - discussed here:-

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-Episode-III-VHS-Australian-release/id/49982/page/1#989404

 

and one for the UK cover (though it’s a hi-res of a German language cover?):-

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Anyone-with-a-UK-VHS-of-ROTS/id/18168

link to image itself - https://i.imgur.com/4BGjtGi.jpg

 

Seems there were Swedish, Japanese and VHS covers for Episode III too.

The swedish cover…

 

the superb swonvideo.com site has a low res copy of the UK cover here (it may help you identify it on searches etc):-



Good luck with it 😃

 

edit - if you see some on the various ebays around the world, it may be worth asking if the sellers would be willing to do you a hi-res scan for you? - and maybe offer them a few $s for their troubles?

there is one on the uk ebay now if interested? - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Star-Wars-Episode-III-Revenge-of-the-Sith-Rare-Collectible-VHS-Video-Tape-/122412501609?hash=item1c805a8a69:g:UgUAAOSwsW9Y1Bed

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#1058425
Topic
Rogue One * <em>Spoilers</em> * Thread
Time

Disney isn’t planning a Rogue One special edition’:-

You may as well quit waiting for deleted scenes now.

www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a824236/rogue-one-special-edition-not-happening
 

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will be out on DVD and Blu-ray at the beginning of April, and although it will have plenty of bonus features, there won’t be any deleted scenes among them.

And if you were holding out for a second, special edition release – possibly containing some of the footage that didn’t make it into the final cut – you’re likely to be disappointed.

“There’s no plans right now,” said Gareth Edwards when Digital Spy asked about possible alternate releases in the pipeline.

“That’s what I’ve heard. There’s nothing down the line, no.”

 

Star Wars: The Force Awakens – which was initially released on DVD and Blu-ray in April 2016 – also received a 3D version in October. That second release featured even more deleted scenes, as well as a director’s commentary from JJ Abrams.

Rogue One will be available in 3D from the get go, and it looks like, along with those fabled deleted scenes, it will be missing a director’s commentary.

The expectation surrounding the deleted scenes has been greater than usual due to the large amount of footage in Rogue One’s trailers that never made it into the final cut.

Rogue One: A Star Wars Story will arrive on Blu-ray, DVD and Digital Download on April 10.

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#1058403
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

A bit of class from the London Mayor earlier today…

Sadiq Khan: ‘I won’t respond to Donald Trump Jr’s tweets’ – audio:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/sadiq-khan-i-wont-respond-to-donald-trump-jrs-tweets-audio

 

Mayor says London ‘won’t be cowed by terrorists’:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/sadiq-khan-says-londoners-will-never-be-cowed-by-terrorism-video

 

We are not afraid’: Theresa May’s statement to MPs – video:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/we-are-not-afraid-theresa-mays-statement-to-mps-video

 

MP James Cleverly’s emotional tribute to murdered police officer – video:-

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/video/2017/mar/23/mp-james-cleverlys-emotional-tribute-to-murdered-police-officer-video

Post
#1058362
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

Plus, why would I feel superior? Why would anyone want to? Why did you even write ‘You don’t get to feel superior…’?

Because, instead of letting it go, you’re still talking about it. You did badger him, as evidenced by his telling you to step off his hands. And afterward, you thanked him for finally letting you get your way–and in effect congratulating yourself. The appropriate thing to do would have been to apologize for making him do it.

No, I actually thanked him for his answer because that’s the appropriate and polite thing to thing to do and acknowledge - especially since Fo was polite in his previous statement (and usually is in general). If you misinterpreted that, that is on you.

Also, I’m not the one still talking about it - just previously ‘No worries - it seems I won’t be getting an answer from you. That’s ok too. Though feel free to meander on - or what have you…’ yet you’re still talking about it… and I have a feeling your next post will likely too…

 

Social interaction is not always overt. It has subtleties. One can convey things without saying them outright. He can say “no” without actually saying the word “no”, and you can pat yourself in the act of thanking someone.

It certainly can, though this didn’t occur here - as previously stated.

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#1058355
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no?

No. He said Jr. had the freedom to say it, which in context means he thinks Jr. said it.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

But again, this is a conversation. If he wants to elaborate or meander or what have you, he can. That’s how conversations work. Again, this is not a deposition. Even if a simple question can have a simple answer, a simple answer is not required. The fact that you could not infer a “no” from his answer is on you, not him.

Don’t badger people for direct answers like that. It’s rude.

Once again, it’s not badgering - it’s just a simple question during a conversation - and he eventually answered it.

So what’s the problem?

Plus, why would I feel superior? Why would anyone want to? Why did you even write ‘You don’t get to feel superior…’? No worries - it seems I won’t be getting an answer from you. That’s ok too. Though feel free to meander on - or what have you…

Post
#1058350
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

Don’t feel tetchy about it (‘Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you’) - it’s not you whose first thoughts were seemingly to use an incorrect and out of context shitstain of a twitter comment to attack the London Mayor just after a terrorist attack there.

That Trump Jr what a cnut, eh? and those pricks that defend him for it too.

 

A statement from the Mayor Of London last night on the terrorist attack:-

https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/844631399713947648

Jason,

I ask you again (politely and with respect), would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Wasn’t aware I was stepping on them in asking the question - and like stated above it’s not like you made the comment that Trump Jr did - and thank you for your eventual answer.

Post
#1058349
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

chyron8472 said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

He did answer it. His answer implied it rather obviously in the context of his statement.

You don’t get to feel superior for badgering someone until they answer exactly how you would have them answer. If his answer is to respond about why Jr said that, rather than just “no”, then you should read into that. This is a conversation, not a congressional​ hearing.

Who is feeling superior? Not many people. Not me for sure. Why would anyone want to?

To be answered with ‘In America, we have freedom of speech here…’, which if anything could be interpreted as evading the question - or maybe come across as superior, no? I read it, took it in, and as it didn’t answer my question asked it again.

A simple question can have a simple answer.

Post
#1058343
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
Time

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

No, I do not think it was some random crappy comment from a Trump relative, he made a statement.

Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you.

Well, you could have just answered that simple question in the first instance instead of what you wrote in between, no?

Don’t feel tetchy about it (‘Now, would you mind stepping off my hands about it? Thank you’) - it’s not you whose first thoughts were seemingly to use an incorrect and out of context shitstain of a twitter comment to attack the London Mayor just after a terrorist attack there.

That Trump Jr what a cnut, eh? and those pricks that defend him for it too.

 

A statement from the Mayor Of London last night on the terrorist attack:-

https://twitter.com/MayorofLondon/status/844631399713947648

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Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Jason, you and I get along well, and I’m not going to argue platitudes with you. I don’t support what he said, I don’t like what he said, but he has the right to say it. I read the U.K. article and the article does indeed start out the way I posted it. I took nothing out of context but it is obvious that a lot of people feel that Donald Jr. did. Cool, I’m not arguing their right to do so, nor am I arguing about people feeling that way.

Now, if that U.K. article is wrong, they should be printing a retraction, and apologize to London’s Mayor for it. I don’t know either the London Mayor or Donald Jr. so I cannot and will not speak for them. It would have been appropriate for him to offer condolences but I cannot answer why he didn’t nor can I make him do it. As you said, he is responsible for his own words and actions, not me not you nor his Father. I am more concerned about my fellow human beings overseas than I am about what he said.

That’s all very well - but the only question was, and is, a simple one:-

Do you think that tweet from him (Trump Jnr) was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

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Jetrell Fo said:

oojason said:

Jetrell Fo said:

SilverWook said:

TV’s Frink said:

Stay classy, Trump Jr!

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/22/us/politics/donald-trump-jr-criticizes-london-mayor-after-deadly-attack.html

Someone needs to tell him that when he says dumb things, it reflects badly on dear ol’ dad.

I read the article Donald Trump Jr. was referencing and London’s Mayor did indeed say … Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.

The comment starts off the article.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/sadiq-khan-london-mayor-terrorism-attacks-part-and-parcel-major-cities-new-york-bombing-a7322846.html

So it’s kinda weird that the New York Times would twist the narrative against a Trump and it would get quoted here as factual? Now, I cannot say why Donald Trump Jr. decided to point out the irony of the comment to the person who said it but I would guess that he felt that since someone made the comment about the New York incident they should remember what they said before saying anything about their own terrorist incident?

I don’t have the answers, just the original article quoted, to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.

In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?

In America, we have freedom of speech. None of us have to like what he said and I never claimed to agree with what he said on any level. I am sad to hear about what happened and the U.K. and I am personally glad the sob was shot and killed.

Freedom of speech is in a lot of places, and has nothing to do with what I said.

You said ‘…to show that the tweet was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative.’

I said 'In wake of the London attack today, with people dying and still fighting for their lives in hospital, Donald Trump Jr didn’t send condolences - instead he dragged up an old article to attack London’s Mayor - and even fucked that up by taking The Mayor’s words out of context, or just not understanding them.

Yet you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?

Really?’

Would you like to answer the question about whether you think that tweet from him was not some crappy random comment from a Trump relative?