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#1082276
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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CatBus said:

Please explain the implications of all this to some people here who would rather focus on anyone else’s government right now, but don’t know how to interpret it.

The Conservative Party, under Theresa May, called a snap election (something which she consistently said she wouldn’t do previously) - expecting to romp home and get an even larger majority than the 17 seats she had, basically with a strong mandate to go to Europe and negotiate Brexit…

The Labour Party was supposedly in trouble; lots of infighting and it’s leader Corbyn being unpopular among many other Labour MP’s - but a strong grassroots support and winning 2 leadership elections.

It has been a massive miscalculation by Theresa May. She hasn’t campaigned well at all, whilst Labour - under Corbyn - did, and did it very well.

 

The Conservatives have lost power - it IS officially a hung Parliament…

 

The Conservatives are still the largest Party - but WILL need the back-up of the right-wing DUP (from Northern Ireland) to be able to get a majority vs the other combined Parties.

Labour could form a coalition of left/centrist/independent Parties to obstruct near on anything they wished - IF they get a couple of objections from the Tory/DUP - a position no-one thought possible at the start of this election.

 

The Tories did surprisingly well in Scotland - which is an unexpected bonus for them. However, it does seem a lot of Tory MP’s aren’t happy with Theresa May - even before tonight’s results - a couple have openly asked her to ‘consider her position’. Ironically she campaigned on ‘strong and stable’ leadership!

A few Tory big names lost their seats too - and that big result Theresa May was hoping for when she called this snap election has not materialised - and has only damaged them - despite a very big push from the majority right-wing press for her.

More results to come of course…

One thing is certain - Labour, under Jeremy Corbyn, running on an anti-austerity campaign, have certainly done better than nearly everyone expected. Even winning in Tory strongholds like Canterbury (who have been Tory for 99 years).

For the US users on here Corbyn is a bit more left than Bernie Sanders - something which the Labour Party was once a fair few years ago (socialist-based) - and something many ‘modern’ aspects of the Labour Party fought against - though will now be very likely backing…

 

Any Party needs 326 seats for a majority (there are 650 MP’s in the House Of Commons):-

All the results have now been announced…

Tories are on 318 seats, losing 13 seats.
Labour are on 262 seats, gaining 30 seats.
SNP (Scottish National Party) are on 35 seats, losing 21 seats.
Liberal Democrats are on 12 seats, gaining 4 seats.
DUP (Democratic Unionist Party) are on 10 seats, gaining 2 seats.
Sinn Fein are on 7 seats, gaining 3 seats.
Plaid Cymru (Wales) are on 4 seats, gaining 1 seat.
Green Party have 1 seat.
Others (independent) are on 1 seat, losing 2 seats.

UKIP lost their only seat - so now have 0 seats.
Social Democratic & Labour Party lost 3 seats - and now have 0 seats.
Ulster Unionist Party lost 2 seats - and now have 0 seats.

 

Sinn Fein now have 7 MP’s - though they do not sit in Parliament as they oppose Westminster’s jurisdiction in Northern Ireland and its oath to the Queen - so its MPs abstain from sitting in parliament.

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#1082259
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Labour doing well in the UK elections - looking like a minority/hung Govt - so far…

Amber Rudd, the Home Secretary, is looking like she will lose her seat too (she’s demanded 3 recounts) 😃

Education Secretary Justine Greening held her seat - but the majority dropped from 10,000 to 1500

Tory minister Jane Ellison loses in Battersea to Labour.

Tories have won in Angus - some say they may do ok in Scotland - and parts of Wales…

Labour have taken 4 seats from the Tories so far (very early days though)

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#1082189
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Ryan McAvoy said:

The whole world today…

oojason said:

A Message for Donald Trump from Former Mexican President Vicente Fox…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYZKrn7Bbl8

😄

I thought it was brilliant - and quite funny too

That was the most savage burn since what PS4 did to XBoxOne…

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kWSIFh8ICaA

😃

 

an handy guide for election result announcements in the UK - and what time they will (or should be) be announced…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/08/what-time-does-each-constituency-declare-its-results-in-the-2017-general-election

(UK times obviously 😉)

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#1082154
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Last song you listened to.
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Sougouk said:

oojason said:

Sougouk said:

The Beatles - Strawberry Fields Forever: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQK-UcRezE

50 years on and still a beautiful song mate - like so many of theirs are - seemingly timeless 😃

 

one from Paul, from 1970… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cm2YyVZBL8U

Yes, it’s a great song from Paul.
Here’s a fun song from Ringo: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-BdGchS0yk

Ringo certainly has that Scouse humour in him still 😃

one song by George - performed by others in tribute to him - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6SFNW5F8K9Y

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#1081875
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Jeebus said:

I don’t really keep up on UK politics since I’m an ignorant American, but this is just absurd in it’s brazenness.

Usually politicians aren’t so up front with their ‘security over freedom/rights’ agenda, they just quietly pass bills that advance that agenda; but May’s coming right out and saying that human rights are something that can be revoked if need be. Sheesh.

Mate, there are many ignorant people in the UK too 😃

You’re spot on with this - it’s something that the Tories have promised before - replacing the European Convention On Human Rights with a vague and undetailed ‘British Bill Of Rights’.

Picard summed up it very well with this…

Patrick Stewart sketch: what has the European Convention on Human Rights ever done for us? (Python-themed video in link)

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/video/2016/apr/25/patrick-stewart-sketch-what-has-the-echr-ever-done-for-us-video

or

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptfmAY6M6aA

 

However, this time it is to deflect away from her appalling record as Prime Minister and Home Secretary where Police and domestic intelligence services have been cut - to the point where she accused them of scaremongering over them when they pointed out the consequences of these cuts some years ago.

 

‘Keir Starmer: UK human rights law does not prevent capture of terrorists’…

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/jun/07/keir-starmer-uk-human-rights-law-does-not-prevent-capture-of-terrorists

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#1081550
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Bingowings said:

^McCartneyism

^ Lennonism!

 

Warbler said:

oojason said:

‘Donald Trump vows to impose travel ban ‘in any event’ despite pending Supreme Court judgement’…

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-muslim-ban-travel-extreme-vetting-supreme-court-judges-us-president-customs-border-a7773271.html

I hope he tries, it might be grounds for impeachment.

I think it’s just bluster from him to be honest mate - his followers and supporters seem to lap up his continuing empty promises and temperamental rants up on twitter - it probably seems to them that he’s getting stuff done.

If it is possible grounds for impeachment though, then 😃

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#1081439
Topic
What is your preferred browser? For Mobile; for Desktop? Why?
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SRW Iron - a chromium based browser (basically the same functions as Chrome - but without so much of the data/info collecting & snooping done by Google).

Have used it for a few years - impressed with what it does (and doesn’t), very reliable - as well as benefiting from near on ever add-on from the chrome web store working on it too 😃

https://www.srware.net/en/software_srware_iron.php - also has a useful multi-language forum for users to ask any questions and report any faults/errors or just give feedback etc.

It’s also available for Mac, Linux, and Android, as well as Windows.

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#1081404
Topic
Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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yhwx said:

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/871725780535062528

Pathetic excuse by London Mayor Sadiq Khan who had to think fast on his “no reason to be alarmed” statement. MSM is working hard to sell it!

crazy isn’t it? - Trump gets caught out by his own lack of empathy and then tweets using the London Bridge attacks to further his muslim ban, (before offering sympathy for the victims) - and tries to deflect attention away of it to Khan and the media…

…when in fact Khan hasn’t said anything other than his original statement.

A spokesman for Khan did say in reply to Trump’s first tweet re Khan - 'He (Khan) has more important things to do than respond to Donald Drumpf’s ill-informed tweet that deliberately takes out of context his remarks urging Londoners not to be alarmed when they saw more police — including armed officers — on the streets,”

and nothing since…

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#1081377
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Last Album Listened To
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CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

oojason said:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

oojason said:

^ never enough Jesus Jones 😉

 

 

Nice

cheers mate 😃

Hopefully going to see them soon in concert in Manchester, where they are performing with The Selecter 😃 - http://www.thebeatofficial.com/tour/

Being from the other side of the pond, they’re known to me as the English Beat, due to some silly trademark scuffle.

Love Wha’ppen and Special Beat Service. I Just Can’t Stop It ain’t too shabby either.

Ha 😃 Forgot about the English Beat thing!

Ranking Roger is quality - and back with them touring too 😃

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSybD8sz7QM