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#1281402
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s another attempt, with score from the soundtrack used to roughly sync with Anakin’s shot without getting unwanted sound effects.

https://vimeo.com/336114601
password: fanedit

I actually thought this attempt was even better. It flows much more nicely. Do you think that if you decided to use this, you’d have someone talented with visual effects add Anakin’s scar to the other side of his face?

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#1281398
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Does Rey have deeper feelings for Finn? I thought that was a bit of a jealous look on her face when she saw him tending to Rose. What does she do with the Jedi Encyclopedia set? Is she going to try and turn Kylo away from the dark side again? Is her mental connection with him still strong with Snoke out of the picture? Is Snoke really truly dead?

Rey notwithstanding, how does the Rebellion rebuild when they’re down to one ship and so few people? Where the heck has Lando been all this time? Has Poe matured into a proper leader?

How does the First Order fare under Kylo’s leadership? Do Hux and others really ally themselves with him or are they looking to seize power at the right moment?

And most importantly of all, is the Falcon still infested with Porgs? A Wookiee’s got to eat. 😛

I believe that the trilogy has always had a story line between Rey and Kylo Ren. She wants him to turn back, but after he still doesn’t trust the Resistance and the Jedi, she leaves him. Her closing the Falcon’s door on him was a way of saying that he needs to find out where he truly belongs by himself. Only the, she will come out to him if he decides to come back to the Light.

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#1281303
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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DZ-330 said:

I think the shots should be flipped for dramatic effect if possible.

Yoda
Padme
Troopers
Anakin

It builds up the line from C3P0 telling Padme that Anakin came back to the temple. We think maybe he might have a change of heart only to be reminded of his darkness.

JEDIT: I can’t remember if LOE has the shot of Anakin marching up to the temple.

It did have the march sequence.

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#1281261
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Hal 9000 said:

Here’s a test of the idea for showing a closeup of Anakin looking over the slaughter in the Temple. Please take a careful listen to the audio if you can, and let me know what you think.

https://vimeo.com/335957079
password: fanedit

It’s an interesting concept and idea, but I don’t necessarily think it flows that great, and it does feel more like a fan edit.

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#1281215
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DrDre said:

nl0428 said:

Everyone has their own opinions, but I’m honestly starting to wonder if the effect and quality of the prequels put a bad taste in fans’ mouths for any future/modern Star Wars content.

Nah, it’s not the prequels fault, I believe. Those films have flaws in different departments. In a lot of ways the PT and ST are two sides of the same coin, where that coin is the OT. Both trilogies capture some of the good parts of the OT, but also miss essential elements in my view. While I think the PT has deeper valleys than the ST, I also feel the PT brought more new elements to the table, and greatly expanded the universe and its lore, while the ST thusfar seems stuck in the past, recycling too much of the OT to really be considered a new story. Additionally, the PT is part of one bigger story, whereas the ST in my view has struggled to supply reasons for its own existence in terms of the larger narrative beyond some entertainment values, and franchise extension. This will be TROS biggest challenge imo, supplying those connections, and bringing the nine part story full circle, such that the ST will not end up being merely an appendix to Lucas’ six film saga.

I still think the sequel trilogy is far superior than the prequels.

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#1280719
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Star Wars Episode III: Labyrinth Of Evil (Finished!)
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Hal 9000 said:

There’s going to be a V6! The impetus for this is the presence, to whatever figurative or literal degree, of Palpatine in Episode IX. Whether he’s found a way to ‘cheat death’ or it’s just a mirage, I think its worth including a bit of dialogue that hints at his interest in immortality in Episode III.

Changes for V6, planned and under consideration:

  • Reinstate “to create life” and “to cheat death…”

  • Move ‘plot to destroy the Jedi’ deleted scene to before Anakin coming in after missing a briefing

  • See about augmenting or removing Chewbacca

  • See about removing the droids from the birth of the twins

  • Consider reinstating Palpatine prompting Anakin to kill Dooku (still shortened; no “dew it”) (LOE, perhaps even moreso than ROTS, has a throughline of Palpatine manipulating Anakin and him suggesting Anakin kill Dooku is in keeping with this)

  • Really try to reincorporate some Yoda lines about failure, maybe even dialogue from Rebels

In order to do anything further about Chewbacca, I would need some visual FX help. It had been determined previously that it would be extremely difficult to remove his bandolier. I wonder if a second bandolier could be added, to imply its a different wookiee. Most of Chewbacca’s shots have been removed, though a few remain. Luckily (?) his face looks nothing like the Chewbacca of the OT and ST.

This one should be much easier, but I would love to have someone assist by removing R2 and 3PO from the birthing of the twins (and shot of them leaving the ship to follow Padme to the medical center). This would avoid R2 and Yoda’s only onscreen meeting before ESB.

I will attempt what I can to extend the scene with Yoda and Qui-Gon, but there’s really only one shot to work with. If anything else can be contrived visually to extend the scene plausibly, I would welcome ideas or FX shots. (Rear shot of Yoda with asteroids floating in the background?)
The dialogue for the scene could go something like this:

Y: “Failed, I have.”

Q: “Yoda, my old friend… Do you feel responsible? Forgive yourself.”

Y: [Dialogue about him being too blind to see things or that he failed the Jedi.]

Q: “Come to Dagobah. You must complete what I could not.”

It sounds like a cool update, but wouldn’t it be best to start work on it after The Rise of Skywalker is released. We still don’t know exactly what Palpatine’s role in IX will be yet.

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#1280718
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DarthSchneider said:

nl0428 said:

How many people here are going to see The Rise of Skywalker once it comes out in cinemas? Do you think excitement may build upon you this upcoming holiday season?

(I was too young when the OT originally came out to have seen them in theaters, but I saw the remasters in theaters).

I was actually born a few weeks before The Phantom Menace was first released.

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#1280368
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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I don’t necessarily understand why most fans believe Rogue One is the best piece of content from the new era of Star Wars. Is it because it’s a direct prequel to A New Hope and that it’s set during the classic Galactic Civil War? I personally thought Rogue One was good, but it had some issues (I won’t discuss them here, since this thread is about The Rise of Skywalker). I actually thought both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi were better than Rogue One, and especially Solo.

These are my rankings for the films overall.

  1. The Empire Strikes Back
  2. A New Hope
  3. The Last Jedi
  4. The Force Awakens
  5. Return of the Jedi
  6. Rogue One
  7. Revenge of the Sith
  8. Solo
  9. The Phantom Menace
  10. Attack of the Clones
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#1280309
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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OutboundFlight said:

nl0428 said:

These are the quotes from George Lucas on the sequel trilogy.

I might be digging too deep into this but it’s kinda funny when you think this way… just for the record, I don’t think there’s any blood between Lucas and Disney, I think he might not enjoy the current direction Star Wars is going, but he isn’t salty about it. If Disney approached him for Episode 9 he’ll help motivate them… towards his perferred direction.

THE FORCE AWAKENS:
“I think the fans are going to love it. It’s very much the kind of movie they’ve been looking for.”

Could be interpreted as fan service. It is very much what the fans want, although not necessarily what he wants. From Lucas’s perspective, the OT was his story but was blocked and altered by studio execs and producers. George Lucas expected the fans would love his unblocked vision of a PT, but was wrong, and now has come to believe the fans are looking for more of the OT. We can all agree TFA has many similarities to the ST (for better or worse I won’t get into), therefore, Lucas was correct in his analysis. This was what the fans were looking for.

THE LAST JEDI:
He thought it was “beautifully made.”

Indeed, The Last Jedi was beautiful. Best cinematography of any SW movie. Concerning the storytelling… that is up in the air, but Lucas at no point mentions it. Therefore his analysis is (once again) perfectly accurate- even if at first glance we think it translates into “I love it”.

IMG

C’mon even if you hate TLJ, that’s beautifully made.

I actually love The Last Jedi, and the sequel trilogy overall. I think it’s an amazing entry to the Star Wars saga and just great overall. I also don’t necessarily think that Lucas isn’t happy with Disney. Not necessarily with them refusing his story treatments, though.

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#1280292
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

I’d be surprised if Lucas didn’t do some second unit stuff as he did on ESB and ROTJ, only it’s been kept secret.

I wouldn’t really believe it all that much, considering that he bad mouthed the sequel trilogy around the time The Force Awakens came out, because Disney turned down his plans for VII, VIII and IX.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8hQVlRgFlU

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#1280246
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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DrDre said:

nl0428 said:

screams in the void said:

this seems like the appropriate place to leave this …https://www.wired.com/story/cantina-talk-84/?fbclid=IwAR1n48i6qvujd1uo5PfHP9akBNWo6EZiB8GdvSQPBdXQqj0EnCXccHBbhxg&mbid=social_fb&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=wired&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook be interesting to hear what people think …

I don’t believe this at all. These George Lucas rumors have been spreading for nearly every future Star Wars project.

This is not a rumor. It is fact. Abrams himself has stated, that they consulted Lucas while writing the script for TROS. He is the source in this instance.

I understand, but he was credited as a “creative consultant” for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. He is credited due to not only creating the franchise, but often Kathleen Kennedy or one of the directors will sometimes call him up for some possible ideas they can use, despite that George would later go on and bash the trilogy because Disney threw out his original ideas for the trilogy. He may have a small bit of help in the development of the story, but it’s very small and he isn’t necessarily writing the script or story, just pitching ideas that the filmmakers can later take and use them in the story.

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#1280232
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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screams in the void said:

this seems like the appropriate place to leave this …https://www.wired.com/story/cantina-talk-84/?fbclid=IwAR1n48i6qvujd1uo5PfHP9akBNWo6EZiB8GdvSQPBdXQqj0EnCXccHBbhxg&mbid=social_fb&utm_brand=wired&utm_campaign=wired&utm_medium=social&utm_social-type=owned&utm_source=facebook be interesting to hear what people think …

I don’t believe this at all. These George Lucas rumors have been spreading for nearly every future Star Wars project.

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#1279590
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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MalàStrana said:

nl0428 said:

SilverWook said:

Didn’t the micro series air slightly ahead of Episode III? Coming off of that impression of Grevious into the movie version would be a letdown.

Yes, the micro-series aired from 2003 to 2005, ending not long before Revenge of the Sith was released. The micro-series was the very first appearance Grievous made too.

And too bad Lucas Grievous wasn’t exactly the one seen in the brillant micro series. He still retains the design and a few aspects though, but he’s missing the frightening part Genndy gave him. Probably the best villain in the Saga, aside from Vader and Sidious of course, and maybe equal to Jabba. Such a shame its best version isn’t cannon anymore.

I do agree that it was the best depiction of Grievous. I don’t know if I would say he is the best villain in the saga. I would still put Vader and Palpatine up there as the best, but I’d even say Kylo Ren is there too, even though I’ve grown to also consider him a protagonist in the franchise.

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#1279491
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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SilverWook said:

Didn’t the micro series air slightly ahead of Episode III? Coming off of that impression of Grevious into the movie version would be a letdown.

Yes, the micro-series aired from 2003 to 2005, ending not long before Revenge of the Sith was released. The micro-series was the very first appearance Grievous made too.

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#1279471
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Episode IX: The Rise Of Skywalker - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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RogueLeader said:

MalàStrana said:

DominicCobb said:

MalàStrana said:

Grievous figure, i.e. the new charismatic vilain

We just going to ignore this?

Oh yeah sorry, I wrote it in French: I meant to write “villain”, with two “l”. “Vilain” is the French spelling.

I think he meant how you referred to Grievous as a compelling villain!

I real disappointing aspect about Grievous is that he wasn’t portrayed nearly as serious and brutal as he was in Genndy Tartakovsky’s Clone Wars micro-series moving forward.

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#1279357
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The ‘Custom Special Edition’ That Almost Wasn’t, But Then Was
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Hal 9000 said:

I guess I never went and edited the OP. Whenever everything’s done, whenever that is, it’ll be proven wrong.

Okay. I was just a bit confused. I can’t wait to see them. I’m also making my own custom special editions myself. Mainly based on my own personal favorite changes seen in the Special Editions and restoring the original parts as well.