I mean…is that supposed to make me okay with using the wrong pictures on the wrong posters? He’s at least wearing the right costume.
I also noticed Han in ROTJ is another ANH photo.
No, it’s just something else to point out. I like this crossover. I tried my best for making prequel styled posters for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi.
The ESB one bugs me. Han is from ANH, Leia is from ROTJ.
Also I don’t like that they recreate the prequel posters precisely, down to the same layout of characters, rather than try to make a new poster in the same style.
Look at Luke in the poster for A New Hope. That was a promotional picture that was taken of Mark Hamill in the farm boy outfit after the trilogy was complete.
I don’t know if anyone has seen these posters of the Original Trilogy made in the style of the Prequels.
Has anyone thought about making posters for the Sequel Trilogy in this same style? I made some for The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but they aren’t that very good.
I have been trying to find out how I can acquire kk650’s color regrades. He has been gone since April 2018, and I haven’t heard from him since. You usually could send him a private message for a regrade, but he hasn’t been around. I heard that they are also on MySpleen, but I can never get into the website, nor do I have an account on there. I’ve been hoping to acquire his Star Wars and DC color regrades, but I don’t know where to get my hands on them.
Please let me know where they can be acquired. Thanks.
I…um…okay.
What is it?
My advice to anyone with an EA game: do not buy until the reviews come out and the inevitable controversy leaks.
They always make the game seem perfect, then comes launch. I didn’t buy Battlefront 2 until after they confirmed a change in micro transactions. I bought it not feeling ripped off.
Likewise I chose to skip on BFV following their controversy.
Well, that can be said about new EA games. Old games that EA doesn’t really put out anymore I would say are safe to buy.
I don’t know about you, but I always wait for the reviews to come in before I buy an old game.
I agree, I do the same before I buy any game, old or new.
My advice to anyone with an EA game: do not buy until the reviews come out and the inevitable controversy leaks.
They always make the game seem perfect, then comes launch. I didn’t buy Battlefront 2 until after they confirmed a change in micro transactions. I bought it not feeling ripped off.
Likewise I chose to skip on BFV following their controversy.
Well, that can be said about new EA games. Old games that EA doesn’t really put out anymore I would say are safe to buy.
DominicCobb said:
What I’m getting is, Rey needs to be jailed in IX for theft. Let’s Make Star Wars Pointlessly Pedantic About Possesions and Inheritance! That’s what the series has always needed. Can’t wait for the climactic court case where Kylo Ren claims ownership of the Falcon.Valheru_84 said:
It is not my intent to be overly literal and logical about it all (it’s just how my thought process works), my initial feeling that Rey didn’t have the right to just take the saber from Luke was just that - a feeling, which contributed to my dislike for the character. It is only in discussing and trying to explain it that I am looking deeper myself and laying out my detailed perspective on why I happen to see it this way, often in response to simplistic replies that seem to brush it aside as nothing of consequence despite it having an impact on the judgement of Rey’s moral fibre (which is why I also tie the matter into her physical abuse of Luke and threatening him with the saber which at this point is not even her’s to use).Hey Dom…you remember how I made that point a while back how I felt that Rey had no right to take Luke’s lightsaber that he inherited from his father? - I’d completely forgotten that Rey also took the original Jedi texts! So while there are some shades of grey and certain points of view (if you will) that can be debated about the whole saber matter, I think the Jedi texts are pretty much a clear cut 2nd example of Rey’s tendency to just take things that don’t belong to her (ie. stealing). Whatever justifications can be made that do ring true, it doesn’t change the circumstances under which she took things that weren’t hers to take.
I think that Rey took the sacred Jedi texts because, while Luke preserved them, he wasn’t putting any use to them. Rey is still young and has much to learn, despite having more patience than Luke did in the Original Trilogy. Rey may have taken the books, but it isn’t anything bad of what she did. Yoda already knew she had taken them when he struck the the tree on fire.
I don’t know exactly how they will portray Ben’s redemption, but I definitely see it happening, and I think Rey will play a part of it. I think it will be romantic love that puts the galaxy back together.
It’s a theory I’ve heard often (even literally my mom said this was her theory after she saw TLJ) and while I don’t have anything against it, personally I’d be surprised if it happens in an explicit “Rey and Ben are a romantic pair and will live happily ever after” way.
I doubt it will happen. Other than that scene where Rey and Kylo touch hands, the rest of the sequel trilogy seems weirdly asexual to me, at least in the traditional sense. Like it’s something that purposely being tiptoed around.
Rose kissing Finn was asexual?
Don’t know how I missed this, but to answer your question two months after the fact:
I suppose the act itself is not technically asexual by its nature, but it felt about as asexual as is possible for an onscreen kiss. There was nothing in the film that built up to that kiss or even hinted at any kind of romance between Rose and Finn. They spent almost the whole movie onscreen together and there was very little chemistry between them.
As for Kylo and Rey, I hope the play up the sexual tension more in episode IX, but I think having them end up together would not be a very satisfying result. The fact is that after The Last Jedi, the relationship between these two characters is probably the most interesting aspect of the story going forward.
I understand what you mean, but seeing Ben and Rey end up together could end up being very satisfying with how it’s played out on screen. That feeling was already emitted from The Last Jedi when the two began to fight Snoke’s guards.
I still can’t trust EA after how dirty they treated fans and gamers
And killing online only games with no end of life plan.
True, but I when I said “fans”, I meant Star Wars fans.
This game seems like something that would be right up my ally. Even though EA showed off a story trailer, and not a gameplay trailer, I’m still going to wait for the reviews to come out and see what everyone thinks first before I make the decision to pick it up. I still can’t trust EA after how dirty they treated fans and gamers with the first two installments of the Battlefront reboots, despite that Fallen Order is a single-player game with no micro-transactions. Hopefully the gameplay is great, whereas I tried out their first Battlefront for about an hour, and I later got bored. I also hope the story is great, as it seems from the trailer. I watched the cutscene movie on YouTube for Battlefront II and thought it was quite poor and honestly, I waste of time.
The last several posts were a delight to read.
I just hope we all keep our theorizing in check (or at least acknowledge that we are probably wrong, despite the fun of it), as fan theories are almost always wrong and I would hate for us to ruin our enjoyment of the movie we will eventually get.
That said I’m looking forward to this!
Couldn’t have said it any better. Thanks, Dahmage!
You’d think they would have a database of all SW titles just so this doesn’t happen?
At the very least, I would think someone at Lucasfilm would at least check to make sure there isn’t some obscure thing out there already called The Phantom Menace, or Attack Of The Clones, the owners of which who could sue them later?
Ehh…it doesn’t really matter all that much. A title is just a title. The best thing to do is to create the title that you think best suits the entirety and meaning of your feature film.
I want to say there was a Star Wars novel with that title as well, but that could be my memory playing tricks on me.
There was one. I also have a novel that was released as promotion for Revenge of the Sith’s release about Obi-Wan beginning his exile on Tatooine called, “The Last of the Jedi”.
Steele Saunders had just conducted an interview with Daisy Ridley after The Rise of Skywalker panel at Star Wars Celebration. Steele asks her some questions concerning this topic here.
If TROS is truly amazing, could The Last Jedi become sort of Attack of the Clones for binge-watching? I wonder if you can enjoy 4, 5, 3, 6, 7, 9 without losing too much of the story? Probably a futile thought because we have amazing edits already available which make 8 quite enjoyable.
I don’t think so. I believe that The Last Jedi is a very important entry to the series in story. In terms of making an impact on the franchise, I would say that it’s the second most important Star Wars film.
Define “important”
There are two ways of defining the importance of The Last Jedi. Both the impact and the story.
The reason why the story is important is because, just like how The Empire Strikes Back took Luke, Han, Leia and Vader to new directions, The Last Jedi took Rey, Ben and Luke to the same direction.
The biggest weakness that is found within Rey is how she clings onto the past, believing that her parents may return someday. She learns that she must move forward and understand that returning to Jakku only to wait for them will not change a thing in her life, despite the fact that she’s already known that her parents were unimportant, despite holding onto hope that the truth she believes is incorrect. Now she understands her place and how to move on.
Ben’s biggest weakness is that he is holding onto the hatred and anger towards his childhood, past and family that had built up in him as Snoke continued to corrupt and manipulate his mind. While his goal of “letting the past die” is where he needs to strive towards, he is not going about it in the right direction. The only act of moving in the direction he needs to be striving towards that he committed as of now is murdering Snoke. He had put an end to the reason why his childhood became more dark and lonely as he grew older, and he saw this as Snoke had berated him, connected him and Rey through the Force, and tortured Rey. However, unlike Rey, he hasn’t let go of his past feelings quite as much as she has. He still doesn’t trust his family and the people he grew up with. This is why he wants to rule the Galaxy with Rey, and he never wanted to become the Supreme Leader either. He only took upon the role to save himself from the First Order. By the end, while he may have failed, he has still been given a chance of redemption from Luke and Rey.
Luke’s growth in the film came from his role as a Jedi Master. While he may have been a hero at the end of Return of the Jedi, that doesn’t necessarily mean that characters stay as the same person over a large amount of time. As Luke grew more older and carried out Yoda’s words of “passing on what he had learned”, he started his Jedi Academy. Luke, while wise in the Force, still had areas that he needed to grow in, such as his role of becoming a teacher and an uncle. From what was seen, it can be inferred that just like Han and Leia, Luke may have been more impatient with Ben than his sister and brother-in-law. He struggled as an uncle in helping to raise his uncle. When he saw the darkness in Ben, his first instinct, that he nearly committed was to kill him. Even though the situation between him and Ben is different between him and Vader, Luke is now put into a different role. He is now the older guardian above Ben, whereas he was younger than Anakin. Now that Luke had taken on the role of a Jedi Master, he had come to a knew way of thinking as a both a Jedi, and as a person. Once he had realized what he had done by taking out his lightsaber, Ben acted on self-defense and committed to Snoke’s mentoring teachings. All of this couldn’t’ve have happened if Luke had decided to spend more quality time with his nephew and help train him, to take on a responsible, yet caring role as an uncle. The first telling of the story he told Rey, I assure was the version of the story he told Han and Leia before going into hiding. Luke had gone into hiding and closed himself off from the Force due to failing his nephew, his sister and brother-in-law, and as a Jedi. It isn’t until Rey and Yoda are able to help convince him where to grow as a person, and especially as a Jedi. The scene with Yoda is a prime example of character growth, as is Ben smashing his mask. By projecting himself through the Force on Crait and saving the Resistance, yet also confronting his fallen nephew once more, Luke had come back from all of the guilt and shame that had clouded over him and had become even more stronger than he already once was, as well as projecting himself. Luke soon gave his life to become one with the Force, understanding that he had now played his role, and understanding that it is time for Leia, Rey and Ben to finish what he had started. Very much like how Timothy Zahn had described in Spectre in the Past, “If Luke’s own current level of knowledge was any indication, Yoda could surely have defeated the Emperor all by himself. Yet he’d chosen instead to leave that task to Luke and the Rebel Alliance.” Luke has now taken upon the role Yoda once did in the Original Trilogy.
As for the impact the film made, I believe that it introduced many new concepts within character growth, maturity and development, as well as deeper storytelling and more additions to the Star Wars mythology. I think these quotes from Rian Johnson in an interview with Los Angeles Times says it all.
“It’s fun because it’s kind of thinking, ‘OK, outside of the Skywalker story and outside of the recognizable iconography, what is this? What is “Star Wars”?’ Or what do we need to retain from that, to pull forward for it to still be ‘Star Wars’ — and what can we leave behind?”
“They’re all the big questions that need to be thought of. And even the ones that we don’t know the answers to are things we need to figure out if ‘Star Wars’ is going to be vital and alive moving forward and not just be a waxworks. We’re going to have to figure out how to tell vital new stories.”
"When people ask me, ‘Don’t you think people are going to get sick of ‘Star Wars’ movies?’ to me that question indicates that they’re thinking of ‘Star Wars’ movies as a museum exhibit that is wheeled out once a year so you can say, ‘Oh, I loved that thing. Oh, I remember that thing!’ And yes, if ‘Star Wars’ is that, people are going to get sick of it really quickly.
“But if ‘Star Wars’ are great new movies that are exciting and fresh, and that challenge you and surprise you and make you feel things and engage you the way that those original movies did — but always taking you to new places, both in the galaxy and emotionally — that’s never going to get old. That’s what it’s all about.”
However you think of how I interpreted Episode VIII, you may agree or disagree. That’s the fun of film fandom, we all have our likes and dislikes of different properties. We all have our opinions.
If TROS is truly amazing, could The Last Jedi become sort of Attack of the Clones for binge-watching? I wonder if you can enjoy 4, 5, 3, 6, 7, 9 without losing too much of the story? Probably a futile thought because we have amazing edits already available which make 8 quite enjoyable.
I don’t think so. I believe that The Last Jedi is a very important entry to the series in story. In terms of making an impact on the franchise, I would say that it’s the second most important Star Wars film.
One of the things that I love about film franchises receiving DVD and Blu-Ray releases are some of the gorgeous box sets that the studios put together. They can be pricy, but still nice. The Lord of the Rings and Harry Potter have some great box sets with great artwork too. I would love it if Lucasfilm puts out a nine film box set of all three trilogies, each film with their own artwork, and nearly every behind the scene extra, featurette, documentary, and all the deleted scenes are released on the set as well. It was a real shame that the Blu-ray releases of the prequels didn’t include upscaled versions of the superior deleted scenes released with their DVD releases.
Are we all forgetting how the EU brought Palpatine back more times than Jason Voorhees? And if we look to one of Lucas’ inspirations, Flash Gordon, Ming The Merciless always survives somehow to menace another day.
There was even a fan edit around here where Palpatine was going to survive ROTJ. Don’t know if it was ever finished.
The old Expanded Universe were wiped away from canon for some pretty good reasons. One of those being the cloning of familiar characters. Ever since George Lucas introduced the concept of cloning in Attack of the Clones, some writers have written some pretty silly stories.
There is, of course, the army of clones Palpatine had archived that became a threat to Luke after Return of the Jedi, and there are the evil clones Luke had as well. Their names were “Luuke”, and “Luuuke”. And let’s also not forget about the clones Vader made of Starkiller in The Force Unleashed II.
Whatever Lucasfilm does with Palpatine’s role in The Rise of Skywalker, it will be much more well written and better told for how Palpatine returns. Whether he survived, or he is a Dark Side Force spirit, we’ll see what happens this December. It will also be exciting to see that Palpatine will not only be a threat to Rey, but a threat to Ben as well.
I think Marvel cornered the market on clone saturation long before Lucasfilm did. 😉
If Thrawn can be plucked from the EU and used in Rebels, than ideas can be cherry picked from it as well?
True, but Star Wars is not Marvel. Also, Thrawn being used in Rebels is a way where things from the old Expanded Universe can work well within the context of the narrative. I personally believe that future Star Wars content should stay away from cloning. Keeping it strictly during the Clone Wars is the way to do it.
Are we all forgetting how the EU brought Palpatine back more times than Jason Voorhees? And if we look to one of Lucas’ inspirations, Flash Gordon, Ming The Merciless always survives somehow to menace another day.
There was even a fan edit around here where Palpatine was going to survive ROTJ. Don’t know if it was ever finished.
The old Expanded Universe were wiped away from canon for some pretty good reasons. One of those being the cloning of familiar characters. Ever since George Lucas introduced the concept of cloning in Attack of the Clones, some writers have written some pretty silly stories.
There is, of course, the army of clones Palpatine had archived that became a threat to Luke after Return of the Jedi, and there are the evil clones Luke had as well. Their names were “Luuke”, and “Luuuke”. And let’s also not forget about the clones Vader made of Starkiller in The Force Unleashed II.
Whatever Lucasfilm does with Palpatine’s role in The Rise of Skywalker, it will be much more well written and better told for how Palpatine returns. Whether he survived, or he is a Dark Side Force spirit, we’ll see what happens this December. It will also be exciting to see that Palpatine will not only be a threat to Rey, but a threat to Ben as well.
With the Knights of Ren apparently actual characters in this, I assume that the TIE attacking Rey is piloted by such a Knight since it’s quite clearly not Kylo’s design.
It’s just that a lot of people are assuming it’s Kylo in that TIE, which I don’t see at all.
JEDIT: As for bringing Palpatine back in some capacity, I don’t hate it, and have argued in the past that it makes a lot of sense to have the big bad from the first six episodes cast a shadow long enough to cover the entire saga.
If you match the interior shot of the cockpit in the trailer with the cockpit image of Kylo Ren that was revealed at the panel, you’ll see how they match up.
Digging this shot of Ms Tran. I’m really hoping she has a more substantial, adult roll in this. She looks great here and appears to have a more important roll in-universe.
Glad they did something different with her hair, she looks like a different person in this photo. And it’s fitting that you should use the term “adult”, as I thought her character in TLJ did come off as somewhat puerile.
I was fine with Rose in The Last Jedi. I think making her character act more mature is good, as it shows character growth and maturity.
She was already pretty mature in her own way in TLJ, but there was certainly a level of innocence and inexperience to her character. She went through a lot in TLJ and it’ll be interesting to see what her place in the Resistance is now (considering she started out as just an engineer).
You are right about that.
Guess who’s back!
Since they’re apparently going to visit the wreck of the DS2, I’m guessing Palpatine might appear as either a Force Ghost, or more likely, as some kind of Force Vision. Might be similar to the Thrawn trilogy where the death of the Emperor left behind an imprint in the Force.
Or Lucasfilm could just be messing with us in the trailer. Wouldn’t technically be the first time.
Both Death Stars blew up. There was concept art for The Force Awakens of the second Death Star underwater, but they scrapped it. It seems like they could potentially be returning to those ideas, but it also seems a bit odd because the Death Star blew up in space.
Well, it blew up orbiting Endor. So it’s not out of the realm of possibility that fragments fell to the moon’s surface. Which would also suggest that the forest setting that was shown in a couple of the promo photos might indeed be the forests of Endor.
There is no way that the planet the station is on is Endor. It looks like a different planet.
According to the two Ewok movies, Endor has other types of terrain…
JEDIT:Debris from the explosion could also have landed on another planet in the system?
I think we can acknowledge that the Ewok movies are no longer canon, and Disney doesn’t consider them canon either. But they could pull from old forgotten material such as this.
Digging this shot of Ms Tran. I’m really hoping she has a more substantial, adult roll in this. She looks great here and appears to have a more important roll in-universe.
Glad they did something different with her hair, she looks like a different person in this photo. And it’s fitting that you should use the term “adult”, as I thought her character in TLJ did come off as somewhat puerile.
I was fine with Rose in The Last Jedi. I think making her character act more mature is good, as it shows character growth and maturity.
I do hope that Palpatine’s return is written really well for people to accept his return and role in The Rise of Skywalker. As someone who generally does not like fan service, I do trust Lucasfilm with what they’ve been doing with the sequel trilogy.
