nl0428

Tommym38 said:

nl0428 said:

Tommym38 said:

Doctor M said:

Yeah. I had avoided getting the official extended discs of SS and CoS since I thought they were the same crappy ABC edits.
On the advice of people here I got them and they are indeed more professional than what ABC/Disney cobbled together.

I think I took issue with a couple of music cues and the fact that in Chamber… they didn’t fix the overdub of Hermione, at dinner, telling Ron and Harry to put on Crabbe and Goyle’s robes.

The overdub was added to the theatrical cut to explain the Slytherin robes they wear later. Hermione saying she got the robes for them from the laundry is a deleted scene. Both shouldn’t be in the same cut of the film.

Huh, didnt know that. Well now Im gonna think of Hermiones overdub (like Lukes if he even exists on Dagobah) whenever I watch CoS now lol, cool piece of trivia

Which line is overdubbed?

My bad idk if you’re talking about the Harry Potter one or the star wars one so I’ll just explain both.

In Chamber of Secrets when Hermione tells Harry and Ron to pluck hairs from Crabbe and Goyle at dinner it cuts to a reaction shot of Harry and Ron looking at eachother and you hear Hermione say “and you’ll need their robes” (or something to that effect. If my understanding of the post is correct Emma Watson never said this line when filming the scene and they had her record it and put it in later.

In Empire Strikes Back when Luke is setting up his camp on Dagobah and plugging in R2 into the power generator, he says “Now all I have to do is find this Yoda…if he even exists”. The line originally ended at “Yoda” when filming and they had Mark Hamil record the “if he even exists” part after. Unlike the CoS add in you dont see Hermione’s face when she says it so you wouldn’t be able to tell (at least I didn’t) unless you had prior knowledge. In ESB Luke’s mouth is open but not moving (enough to say the line) when the line is added in, so it kind of gives off a ventriloquist vibe (I forget what youtuber I heard make that comparison, probably HelloGreedo if I had to guess based on my watch history). In the DVD they tried to make Luke’s mouth move but you can still tell. Theres a little blurb on it on the ESB IMDB in the category “goofs” under “Audio/visual unsynchronized” if you want to read more, but that’s pretty much the gist of it.

I didn’t know about the ADR line from Chamber of Secrets, but I already knew about the one from The Empire Strikes Back. I’m a bit confused that they kept that line in the extended edition, considering that Harry and Ron didn’t put on Crabbe and Goyle’s robes, and Hermione snuck out Slytherin robes from the laundry for them to wear.

axlanian said:

Hal 9000 said:

It works implausibly well. 😉

Maybe add any Jedi actors’ songs who have recorded ant to the Exegol confrontation, singing rather than speaking to Rey.

https://youtu.be/HLRaO6icNrg

Let’s not forget about the SNL skit of NSYNC as Jedi.

I gotta admit, Carrie Fisher wasn’t that bad of a singer.

Brewzter said:

Probably a bit late to suggest this but has it been considered to add in this video?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=owrmLeX20CY

I’m thinking 1:50-6:23 (abruptly cut at the end) would work well as the vision Kylo experiences when he meditates on Vader’s helmet.

-It shows how Kylo struggles with living up to Vader’s legacy (especially with Vader demeaning his as Ben)
-Essentially adds in the Vader/Kylo duel from the DOTF script/concept art
-Could be seen as continuity in him rebuilding his mask? He sees himself in this vision defeating Vader so that could represent him overcoming his internal struggle with Vader’s legacy and then rebuilding his mask because of it
-Overall just a really cool scene

I know Kylo’s vision in this scene has already been edited (in a way I also like 😃 ) but I think this is a really cool alternative that I might put it on my own

We did discuss this, and Hal said that he wasn’t too keen on using footage from a fan film.

Tommym38 said:

Doctor M said:

Yeah. I had avoided getting the official extended discs of SS and CoS since I thought they were the same crappy ABC edits.
On the advice of people here I got them and they are indeed more professional than what ABC/Disney cobbled together.

I think I took issue with a couple of music cues and the fact that in Chamber… they didn’t fix the overdub of Hermione, at dinner, telling Ron and Harry to put on Crabbe and Goyle’s robes.

The overdub was added to the theatrical cut to explain the Slytherin robes they wear later. Hermione saying she got the robes for them from the laundry is a deleted scene. Both shouldn’t be in the same cut of the film.

Huh, didnt know that. Well now Im gonna think of Hermiones overdub (like Lukes if he even exists on Dagobah) whenever I watch CoS now lol, cool piece of trivia

Which line is overdubbed?

jonh said:

Yes, I took the shot from the “Idkartist” video, I tried to find the original shot from “Marriage istory”, but I can’t find it … could someone help me find the original shot?

I gotta say that in the end, having his head on Luke’s farmboy body doesn’t look that bad in the end. Like Hal, I feel a little bit of touch up can be done like having him nod towards Rey, but overall, well done, jonh!

jonh said:

Hello!!! how are you?
I am looking forward to seeing the progress you have made !! 😃
sorry for taking so long to get back, it has been a summer full of work …
here I have the final shot of luke, leia and ben;)
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1ntpAvvC9J7W20Rftnnn0A-ttmcnRrSLO/view?usp=sharing

It looks like the source of Driver’s head is the same Idkartist used, except there’s very little movement. In his clip, Driver did a head nod, making it look as if he was allowing Rey to take the Skywalker name.

natm said:

DZ-330 said:

Icecream2448 said:

Speaking of the ending, the music transition into “Directed by JJ Abrams” still feels weird. I know it’s been discussed a lot, so sorry if it’s already been decided upon and everything. It’s, like, abrupt and there is no flow or the usual “jolt” feeling you get when the credits roll. It just feels jarring and jump cut in the audio. I’m sure it’s incredibly difficult to get a proper timing with what appears to be two separate audio tracks, but it’s just not feeling right.

Could it just be because of how we’re hearing the music as the Falcon is slowly entering hyperspace? Is the timing just all out of whack for my liking?

+1, I was a strong supporter of letting the music play out a little more because the timing cuts in perfectly.

https://vimeo.com/425012849

I like this. Also, Ben’s ghost looks cool alongside leia and Luke for this mockup!

I wish it could be like this of using actual movement rather than using a still image of Adam Driver’s head on Luke’s farmboy outfit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BlnRy7g--tU

Hal 9000 said:

I don’t really want to change this about the original. My understanding from TROS is that Snoke was a meat puppet, possibly literally housing Palpatine’s spirit before he went into a clone body sometime between TLJ and TROS. One thing about this that gives me pause is that Snoke seemed to recognize that Rey and Ben are linked. But I guess them being a dyad is some weird technicality aside from this.

So… essentially Palpatine is now like Lord Voldemort from Harry Potter, where he transferred his spirit into different bodies to keep himself alive or to perform an action that he could not at the current state?

Lightsideuser said:

As in, instead of ‘I made Snoke’ it could be ‘I trained Snoke’ Could work if you can find trained or a similar word said by Palpatine. Doesn’t bother me either way to be honest.

nl0428 said:

Does anyone here have an interest in making Snoke out to be an apprentice of some sort of Palpatine? Since the vat of his clones have been replaced, I think it could work, but it would also result in the removal of his line, “you have ever heard.”

Agreed, but even just saying, “I made Snoke” can still work in the context that Palpatine made him the way he is as he did with his past apprentices. Like he “made” Vader by turning Anakin to the Dark Side.

Does anyone here have an interest in making Snoke out to be an apprentice of some sort of Palpatine? Since the vat of his clones have been replaced, I think it could work, but it would also result in the removal of his line, “you have ever heard.”

dgraham414 said:

krausfadr said:

Now we all know why Luke wanted to go to Tosche Station so bad and pick up some power converters. His friends told him he should try lightspeed skipping a sand speeder.

Reminds me of that Dukes of Hazard joke from Robot Chicken Star Wars

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rpUkokRx3-k

https://youtu.be/GOmtCtY_Tq0?t=122

Hey, Hal. I understand the many changes and things that can be done, I get it. But hopefully we can make fan editing fun rather than being like work for you. It should at least be something to enjoy and not put stress on you. Hopefully there is something we can do about that to help you in some way.

Hal 9000 said:

And that’s an interesting idea to use Ben’s clothes! Not sure how doable it would be, I really am not sure.

Someone could use VFX to recolor the cloth black, possibly.

Hal 9000 said:

Well, there’d be that snippet followed by a long gap with no music, another DOTF snippet, then the existing score. I think it’d be better with just what you’ve already done.

What about the music that LILLIAN used in his clip? I’m not sure if I said his name right.

bbghost said:

Not to speak for Hal but this feels like a continuation and conclusion of his own ST edits in and of themselves, not necessarily the theatrical versions. Which I think everyone is doing a fairly good job of respecting thus far.

I agree on that.

So just a random question I had in mind that I probably already know the answer to. Many can conclude saying that The Rise of Skywalker is more of a continuation to The Force Awakens than it is The Last Jedi. Are we trying to make sure that this edit is a continuation of The Last Jedi? Personally, I feel that making it a sequel to Episode VIII is important.

Hal 9000 said:

nl0428 said:

Hal 9000 said:

How I thought it would feel nearing the very end of the ‘9000 Saga’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248ggPoK158&t=12s

What it actually feels like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jxhJYmo7o

So… you’re disappointed that work on this edit may never truly end?

No, just that it’s more melancholy than triumphant.

That’s how I also feel about Lucasfilm saying that The Rise of Skywalker is the final episodic film in the saga. Of course, I think many of us know that that won’t necessarily be the case forever.

Hal 9000 said:

How I thought it would feel nearing the very end of the ‘9000 Saga’: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=248ggPoK158&t=12s

What it actually feels like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68jxhJYmo7o

So… you’re disappointed that work on this edit may never truly end?

Are you asking for the link, alansano95?

Do you think it’s possible that one or both versions could be completed and uploaded to Drive for a holiday release around November or December?

Hal 9000 said:

Sorry, yeah, I didn’t have time to respond when I saw it and then I forgot!

I had blocked up that scene at some point before and I don’t remember exactly how it went. But I feel like it was better that way and didn’t leave any lose ends. (The ending scene)

The hangar scene doesn’t feel right to me, as theres a dramatic reveal that Palpatine tried to kill her because of… something he didn’t know.

Sorry, I know that’s kind of negative and vague for right now.

Don’t worry about it, I think it needs work too, but cutting it together this way is how we can get around it as a start. I am proud with how the Exegol scene turned out.

I don’t know what you thought about the samples I posted, Hal. Just for a future Rey Nobody edit.

Since we haven’t heard back from DominicCobb in a while, I decided to re-cut two samples for a Rey Nobody edit. I think Dominic’s work with Kylo Ren and Palpatine at the beginning and Rey and Luke’s scene are perfect cut together for a Rey Nobody attempt. I’m not sure how you feel about the way he cut together Kylo Ren and Rey’s Force duel with them telling the story of her parents, as that could possibly be used for the Rey Nobody edit.

Anyways, here are some samples for a Rey Nobody edit.

https://vimeo.com/440435237
PASSWORD: fanedit

https://vimeo.com/440436663
PASSWORD: fanedit

I think Palpatine’s line, “The only family you have here …is me” still works in the context that they’re not related, as it is something he could have said to Vader at the end of Revenge of the Sith after mourning the loss of Padmé.

If doing a Rey nobody version, would you remove Palpatine offering the throne to Rey by re-purposing it as Palpatine telling her to kill him so she could give in to the Dark Side?