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#1259310
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Tobar said:

The only reason the ST has a chance of feeling like its narratively cohesive is that Abrams is returning. Had Trevorrow headed IX as was originally intended, it would have ended in disaster.

I always felt that when Colin Trevorrow was announced to direct Episode IX, it was an abrupt decision, since Jurassic World had come out and was very successful. In an interview on Collider’s Jedi Council, SNL cast member, Bobby Moynihan said that Daisy Ridley asked Trevorrow what happens to Rey in IX. He took her to the back room, and she came out crying. The story may have changed since Trevorrow was on board, but I do think that bringing J.J. Abrams back was a smart choice. I loved what he did with The Force Awakens, but I also loved what Rian Johnson did with The Last Jedi.

To put it simply, Abrams helped create the world and new characters for the sequel trilogy. He and Lawrence Kasdan (as well as keeping some of Michael Arndt’s material he created before leaving, because he was credited in the final film) wrote the story for VII. When Rian Johnson took over, he helped write the story for VIII, yet still continuing some of the story arcs set up by Abrams and Kasdan. While the story went a different direction from what J.J. may have done, he still continued the important arcs from what J.J. and Kasdan set up. Luke was always going to be a hermit, refusing to come back into action (an old idea George Lucas had for his sequel trilogy), as well as the relationship between Kylo Ren and Rey blossoming into a potential romance. What J.J. and Chris Terrio are going to do with IX is bring the trilogy to a close by continuing where Rian left off, and ending the story arcs where Abrams began off with.

The best thing to do is to tell the best story moving forward in the Star Wars saga, not bring fan service to the big screen, such as old Luke Skywalker with a lightsaber taking down the First Order. This is something I wanted at one point during the two year gap in between the releases of The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but I am happy that they did not do that, as it would be out of character for the story set up for Luke. Even Mark Hamill agreed with the decision by the end of making VIII. He disagreed at first, but soon realized that the writers knew better and loved the ending for his character.

I am very excited for Episode IX, and I cannot wait to see what happens between Rey and Kylo Ren for the end of the sequel trilogy!

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#1259286
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What SE changes (if any) did people like?
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These were some the Special Edition changes that I liked.

A NEW HOPE:
New Crawl
C-3PO’s Added Lines
New Wide Landscape Shots
Modified Matte Paintings
Extended Sandtrooper Search
Most of the New Added Effects to Mos Eisley
Explosion Rings
Added Stormtrooper Lines
Added Stormtrooper Hanger Shot
Improved Echo Effect
Modified Lightsaber Blades
Added Biggs Darklighter Scene
New Visual Effects to the Death Star Attack
New Millennium Falcon Visual Effects
New Actors in the Celebration Hall

THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK:
New Emperor Palpatine Scene
New Music Transition Cues
New Aerial Visual Effects
New Cloud City Background Windows
Added Millennium Falcon Hatch
Added Cloud City Reactions to Lando’s Message

RETURN OF THE JEDI:
Added Shots of Boba Fett
Enhanced Unfreezing Han Solo Effect
Added Shot of Banthas
Added Sarlacc Beak
Added Blinking Ewoks
Darth Vader’s Enhanced Face
Death Star Explosion Ring
New Ending Song
Added Other Planets During the Ending

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#1258927
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Rey &amp; Kylo Ren's Relationship
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Tbf, fangirls can make any direction look like garbage.

But yeah, I honestly don’t see Lucasfilm going there. It doesn’t seem like the direction they’re headed in.

I don’t know. I could be wrong, but the developing relationship and sexual tension between them in The Last Jedi was quite legit. The ending didn’t necessarily mark the end of their relationship, but rather the beginning into something greater.

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#1258799
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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pleasehello said:

Yeah, I’m sure any forthcoming trailers will ramp up my excitement. More than anything else, the one thing I want to see in Ep. IX is ghost Luke haunting Kylo Ren. After that, I’m good.

I think “haunting” is the wrong term to use. I still think having the force ghosts of Luke and Anakin (reprised by Hayden Christensen) coming before Ben would be cool to see. I really think it can work well.

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#1258794
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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pleasehello said:

I have much less interest in seeing IX than I did in VIII. The main reason for this, and one of my biggest gripes with The Last Jedi is that it didn’t really leave any loose ends. That’s kind of an issue if you want to generate anticipation for your next film.

I am really for excited for Episode IX. In fact, it’s been reported by Collider that we may be seeing footage of Episode IX this December!

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#1258786
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Anakin Starkiller said:

Regardless, the real reason people don’t see as one vision is because TLJ seems to go against everything TFA values.

It’s upsetting to me that Episode IX is already being hated on before it’s released. I loved both The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi, but there is no disconnect between them. The Last Jedi expanded so much on the Star Wars legacy and mythology, something that will help Star Wars still keep going on for another forty years without being worn out. There are many people out there who were disappointed with Episode VIII simply because the film didn’t play out as the movie they wrote in their head leading up to its release. The extreme reactions are ridiculous, unbearable, and disgusting for their behavior for not liking the movie.

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#1258785
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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screams in the void said:

I have to give props to Anthony Daniels performance as C-3PO in all of the movies . Emoting through a plastic suit and getting fear and anxiety across through his motions and the art of mime .

Anthony Daniels really loves playing Threepio. He’s even voiced him in almost every TV show, special, and game too.

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#1258696
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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lpd said:

Just don’t know to be honest, its been shown since star wars 77 and especially over the last two movies that its really being changed and evolving on the move. ie:It really didn’t have an arc. Each movie is being written on the fly. I really think that’s why that scene was thrown on the end of Solo.
But what do I know?

I wouldn’t necessarily say that the sequel trilogy is being changed in between films. I believe that J.J. set up that Rey’s parents were nobody, and that is something that Rian Johnson carried over into The Last Jedi. I also think that J.J. intentionally also set up the romantic relationship being developed between Rey and Kylo Ren.

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#1258656
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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lpd said:

Don’t know if this has been said before but I have a sneaky feeling Rey is the child of Q’ira. Darth Maul created life ala Plaeguies. Don’t say much on the site anymore just thought I’d chime in with my theory after reading some of your thoughts.

I believe that the story arc of Rey’s parents are finished. Rey even told Ben that she knew they were nobody the whole time deep inside her, despite that she didn’t want to believe it. Daisy Ridley even confirmed in an interview with Rolling Stone a couple of months after the release of The Last Jedi that the revelation of her parents in VIII is what she was told from the beginning when she signed on to the trilogy. I personally like the direction of her parents being irrelevant, but I’m sorry to you and anyone holding on that she was related to a familiar character from the past.

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#1258655
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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Here is what my list is probably like as of right now.

A NEW HOPE: Alec Guinness as Obi-Wan Kenobi
THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK: Frank Oz as Yoda
RETURN OF THE JEDI: Ian McDiarmid as Emperor Palpatine
THE PHANTOM MENACE: Liam Neeson as Qui-Gon Jinn
ATTACK OF THE CLONES: Christopher Lee as Count Dooku
REVENGE OF THE SITH: Ewan McGregor as Obi-Wan Kenobi & Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine
THE FORCE AWAKENS: Harrison Ford as Han Solo, Daisy Ridley as Rey, & Adam Driver as Kylo Ren
ROGUE ONE: Alan Tudyk as K-2SO
THE LAST JEDI: Mark Hamill as Luke Skywalker, Daisy Ridley as Rey, Adam Driver as Kylo Ren
SOLO: Alden Ehrenreich as Han Solo & Donald Glover as Lando Calrissian

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#1258505
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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OutboundFlight said:

No way. JJ is an OT fanboy. He’s gonna use Lando as much as possible, as well as force ghost Yoda and Luke. But not Hayden (which would be a great way to at least create somewhat of a unification between George’s saga and the Disney saga).

Just because J.J. Abrams is not a fan of the prequels, it doesn’t mean that he can’t use elements from them in a good way. There were some bad elements about the prequels, but there were also some good elements. It’s mainly the way the films turned out in the end which was disappointing. I don’t blame Hayden Christensen for his poor performance, I mainly lay the blame on George Lucas. He was the director, and the director is supposed to get the best performance out of their actors (something that George has struggled with when he is directing a film). J.J. Abrams, and yes, even Rian Johnson, are able to do that job well.

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#1258360
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Episode IX - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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OutboundFlight said:

I hope the movie doesn’t end with a fight between Rey and Kylo. Rey has already beaten Kylo twice, how is there supposed to be any drama?

There can still be plenty of drama between the two of them. Especially based on where Ben will go. Not to mention, there’s also the romantic and sexual tension still occurring between the two of them.

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#1258359
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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pleasehello said:

For me, Adam Driver has some of the best acting moments in the entirety of Star Wars. Particularly his quieter, more intimate scenes.

I’m thinking the interrogation of Rey in TFA and just after they fight the red guards in TLJ. There’s a strange, guarded vulnerability that he captures so well.

I agree with you!

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#1258208
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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RogueLeader said:

This is a good idea for a thread! I’m gonna try to pick more underrated choices from each trilogy.

For the Prequels, I would definitely have to say Ian McDiarmid as Palpatine/Sidious. He basically plays two different characters, and he can easily go from kind/friendly, manipulative, to evil incarnate. He’s fun to watch, and his best scene probably has to be the Opera Scene in ROTS.

For the Original Trilogy, I have to agree with Nev and suggest Frank Oz as Yoda. I think the act of performing Yoda was a real pain for Oz, having to not really see who he was performing with, and being cramped underneath the hot stage with his hand up a puppet. But he made Yoda feel real, and made you feel the emotions that Yoda felt, whether it be curiosity, hesitation, disappointment, wisdom, etc.

For the Sequels, it is hard to choose because I think it has some of the best performances in the franchise, but for the amount of pressure I can only imagine he had to have been under, I think Mark Hamill gave his best performance as Luke Skywalker ever, even though he had only acted on-camera occasionally for the past several years. And considering how Hamill apparently didn’t agree with the choices made for his character in the film, he proved he could give the performance regardless of his own opinions, and he really get that pain and emotion across on screen.

To me, Mark Hamill gave his best performance as Luke in The Last Jedi. Daisy Ridley and Adam Driver also deserve a lot of praise with how intriguing and emotional they were able to play the characters of Rey and Kylo Ren.

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#1258207
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Best Performance by an Actor/Actress in the Star Wars Movies
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NeverarGreat said:

Reading The Making of The Empire Strikes Back, it becomes clear how much the very soul of Star Wars hinged on making the audience believe in the reality of a talking frog. That this worked at all is a miracle, and a lot of it has to do with the talents of Frank Oz.

If the onscreen chemistry between the puppet and Mark Hamill had not worked, the movie would have failed.