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- The Unofficial Complete REVISITED SAGA Ideas and Random Discussion Thread
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JediBendu said:
There are a lot of continuity errors with the prequels
Episodes 4, 5, & 6 have many direct quotes of exposition that reveal details and provide clues about the events of episodes 1, 2, & 3. To avoid any continuity problems, let’s take inventory of them.Addressing the presumed “continuity errors”
“he feared you might follow old Obi-Wan on ‘some damn fool idealistic crusade’.”
“He didn’t hold with your father’s ideals, thought he should stay here and not gotten involved.”Several quotes can be explained that Owen and Ben are not telling the truth.
Owen just wants Luke to stay home, and makes up anything that would keep Luke there.
And Ben lies too. It is especially revealing in retrospect, when Ben tells Luke how his father died. Alec Guinness acts like he is making up a story, even if he didn’t know he was. Just watch his face and his eyes looking away and down, instead of looking at Luke, and rocking a bit, as he suddenly feels uncomfortable, because he is lying to Luke. And then when he tells the true part, “Vader was seduced by the dark side”, he acts like remembering.
He was truly a brilliant actor.Darth Vader “helped the Empire hunt down the Jedi”
Darth Vader did help the Empire to hunt down the Jedi. The remaining Jedi mind you, after order 66 was executed.
“I haven’t gone by the name of Obi-Wan since, oh, before you were born.”
This is a tough one I admit. I got no answer.
Obi-Wan explicitly says, “I don’t recall ever owning a droid.”
Obi-wan never owned a droid. Used droids for sure, but never possessed any. No problem here.
Governor Tarkin outranks Vader.
“Vader, release him,”Tarkin does not outrank Vader, and he does not order Vader. This can be interpreted that they have a mutual respect, and they are equals in some way, and Tarkin is merely annoyed and asks Vader.
Obi-Wan served Leia’s (adopted) father as a general during the Clone Wars.
“You served my father in the Clone Wars.” Leia’s message in A New Hope implies that Obi-Wan served in the armed forces of Alderaan …
Also, the Jedi do not have military ranks.No. Obi-wan actually served the Republic Army, and Leia’s ‘father’ was a senator, so in a way it can be said, that he served his father, since it was the senators in the senate who decided what needed to be done, and “ordered” the Jedi generals to carry out those tasks.
And the Jedi had military ranks. The Jedi masters and knights were generals, the padawans old enough to fight were commanders.Vader knows he has a son, and knows Obi-Wan was with him
Throughout Empire Strikes Back, Vader is tearing the galaxy apart trying to find his son, and then when he reveals to Luke that he is Luke’s father, he says, “Obi-Wan never told you…” How did he know that Obi-Wan had ever met Luke?
Vader says things like “Obi-Wan has taught you well.” How does he know Luke was learning from Obi-Wan. The only way Vader could have known these things is if he knew his son.
Vader knew he had a son, but not a daughterNope. After the destruction of the first Death Star, news spread throuhgout the galaxy, that the rebels destroyed the Death Star, and a boy named Skywalker did it. Certainly that name rung the bell for Vader. And obviously people learned that his name is Luke Skywalker.
Vader knows that Luke had to learn from someone, and he found out on the Death Star that Obi-wan was alive after all, all these years. And since they thought that no Jedi were alive anymore, the only explanation is that it was Obi-wan who taught Luke.
And Leia’s identity or existence is not revealed this way, so no problem there either.Leia knew her mother
Needs to be fixed in the prequels. Padme must stay alive.
The discredited Jedi are called “sorcerers” and “wizards.” >
An imperial officer says, “Don’t try to frighten us with your sorcerer’s ways, Lord Vader,” and Uncle Owen, referring to Obi-Wan says, “That wizard’s just a crazy old man.” Han Solo dismisses “hokey weapons and ancient religions.” Despite being guardians of peace and justice in the galaxy for a thousand generations, it seems the Jedi have been culturally discredited throughout the empire.Yep, this is the way to brainwash people. You keep telling them a lie, and the lie becomes the new truth.
Obi-Wan knows Vader has become a machine
In Return of the Jedi, Obi-Wan says that Vader “is more machine than man now, twisted and evil.” But in Lucas’s prequels, Obi-Wan leaves Anakin for dead before Anakin transforms into a machine.Sure he knows. He got killed by that machine on the Death Star, some 20 years after that.
Anakin wanted his son to become a Jedi
When Obi-Wan gives Luke his father’s lightsaber he says, “Your father wanted you to have this, when you were old enough, but your uncle wouldn’t allow it.”Simply another lie by Obi-wan. Moving on.
No One Knows the Emperor uses the Force
Governor Tarkin to Vader in New Hope, “You are all that’s left of their [the Jedi’s] religion,” so he seems not to know that the Emperor himself is a Sith…The truth is that no one knows except Vader. He is the only one. Not even Tarkin, so no problem here either.
The Leia knew her mother part.
How do we know that Leia really remembered her real mother? It is possible that she remembered Bail’s wife and asumed it was her real mother.
I dont think that this is an important part to “fix”.
Well, if we assume that everyone in the original trilogy was lying or didn’t remember things correctly, then there’s nothing to be fixed, and the prequels are ok.
Maybe. Maybe not. Or just some visual continunity error fixing.