I’ve decided to make a compilation of all reports from the ROTJ-thread that weren’t reposted yet. Tried to kill as many redundancies as possible.
is that edge enhancement on the people on the skiff outside the window?
between 00:02:20 and 00:02:30.
Alright, well the TIE fighters and shuttle in the beginning are digital comps (https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-weOl4KYaBjI/TL2bsHkXl2I/AAAAAAAAdUI/HY7DXvLO94M/w1043-h899-no/Comp-004.jpg https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-d9IJCPl0BMI/TL2bsECMeiI/AAAAAAAAdUk/Q8j7mWp43sA/w1043-h899-no/Comp-005.jpg).
matte painting extension is still there, as well as the recomped explosion.
occasional film damage/dirt around Shaw’s face Nothing too terrible.
quite a bit of film damage on the Death Star explosion.
ships flicker in and out of existence.
Quite a bit of noticeable gate weave whenever 35MM shots are occurring.
This, plus what I already pointed out, are all I noticed in a quick look over the film. I didn’t watch the entire thing, just skipped around to the areas with the most prominent SE changes. Overall, this is a ridiculously huge improvement over 1.0.
in the middle of the wipe transition into the gang flying away from Tatooine (referring to: the last frame of a shot being a bit differently colored or stuff like that).
21588 (according to VirtualDubMod frame count)
A weird glitch happens - when the subtitle disappears, you can see at this frame the bodies of Jabba and C3PO at the place previously occupied by subtitles, the rest of the frame shows Leia and Chewie.
One more thing - the Rancor scene was dark. I mean it was "so dark I have to adjust the brightness to actually see what’s going on " dark. Is that correct? I have seen ROTJ only on VHS tapes (and the GOUT once) but I never seen it so dark. It’s not a complaint, just a question.
I watched a few scenes last night and noticed the jitter on the pan-up from the forest to fireworks at the end.
I think the 35mm stuff immediately after the funeral pyre leading into the Ewok celebration really ought to be stabilized in the final 2.0. The other instances of gate weave aren’t too distracting, but right there it gets pretty extreme.
There’s an awful lot of flicker on the shot with the skiff speeding off after Jabba’s barge explodes. I know you said a lot of the 35mm tweaks would probably have to wait until 2.5, Harmy, but this really jumps out at me. If that and the gate weave at the Ewok celebration I mentioned a few posts ago were the only fixes of that nature in 2.0, I’d be happy with that.
The Rancor Scenes was dark also after Oola falls into the pit it looked like there was magenta color in some of the frame. Can’t wait to sit down and watch it entirely.
00:13:49 - 00:13:52 (019900 - 019970),
I noticed that there seem to be a couple of grey vertical lines in the background on the left behind Jabba, I think they appear when he leans forward. I’m not sure if these were in the original, but they look like they shouldn’t be there.
Yeah I noticed the wobble in the picture with the fireworks scene and some strange looking blacks with artifacts throughout the darker scenes in the film. Hopefully a hybrid of 35mm film sources could fix this for 2.5. All-in-all though, a great improvement from the 1st version of ROTJ DE. Thanks so much for your hard work Harmy!
00:02:27:12 / 003540
The compositing on the TIE fighter appears to be the corrected SE one. I don’t know if you want to revert that to the original transparent form or…?
00:12:23:00 / 017832
This entire sequence is a relief to see again! Noticeable gate weave though.
00:14:30:11 / 020831
There’s a visible discolouring left by the subtitles. It lasts for a few frames.
00:33:57:18 / 048906
This shot seems a little fuzzy. Don’t know if it was like that in theatres. Might have been.
00:34:17:13 / 049381
Apparently this shot was just shades of tan, but I can see some blue sky. Is this exclusive to GOUT prints, or is the theatrical print like that?
00:36:10:23 / 052103
Noticing a few vertical lines (scratches) in this shot, just at the bottom-left corner.
00:36:15:10 / 052210
Possible healing error on the centre dune.
00:36:17:04 / 052252
00:45:05:15 / 064935
May be a 2004 recompsite: there is an odd vertical light element thru Obi-Wan’s head, which previously was a branch.
00:53:10:03 / 076563
The outline between Vader and the screen is smoothed - a 1997 correction. Again, don’t know if you want to keep or change that.
01:42:18:13 / 147325
2011 R2. Presumably you already know about it, but I’m making a note of it here for completion’s sake. (also notice the colour’s a bit haywire here.)
01:56:17:20 / 167468
Looks like the redone Emperor’s shaft explosion.
02:04:35:13 / 179413
Noticeable gate weave for this and the next few shots.
02:06:20:18 / 181938
Gate weave noticeably stops just as the end credits appear. May be able to apply the HDTV final shot here, at least to a degree.
post-credits: “bought” is spelled wrong
Darth Mallwalker said:
We don’t want <(team member formerly known as negative1)> to think
that I’m picking on him exclusively, so…
Workprint frames 141780 & 781 are the same frame repeated (GOUT 141780).
GOUT 143417 is missing from the workprint, last frame of the shot.
From GOUT shot 22860-23044, the workprint is missing one frame.
Probably the last frame of that shot is the one missing.
Compared to GOUT shot 25408-743, the workprint has two additional frames
at the beginning of the shot.
From GOUT shot 28230-651, the workprint is missing one frame.
Probably the last frame of that shot is the one missing.
cHarmy= avcSource(“ROTJ v2.0 Workprint.dga”)
trim(cHarmy, 00000, 23043)
+trim(cHarmy, 23044, 25406)
+trim(cHarmy, 25409, 28651)
Sorry, it’s what I do.
Anyway counting frames of RotJ is far more fun than watching it!
Please note I didn’t check every single shot, and won’t do.
Only checked reel change, LD sides, and wherever pulldown cadence changed,
since those points were annotated in IVTC scripts I’ve previously shared.
I admire your efforts to keep it GOUT-sync’ed
because interchangeable parts are NOT over-rated.
No, it’s not back in sync by the end of the next shot.
It remains out-of-sync throughout those sequence:
The last two being worse offenders, with picture lagging behind the sound,
since light is supposed to travel faster than sound (even in far-away galaxy?)
WTF is “good enough”? A slippery slope, no doubt.
Only half-joking when I say I hope fame hasn’t got to your head.
Your attention to detail has served you well
Around when the Emperor arrives on the Death Star, the music sounded kinda funny, like a slight phaser effect or something. The biggest problem I noticed was R2-D2 around the 1:42 mark - his chroma layer looked fairly offset. Also, like others have mentioned, scenes with low lighting came out very dark, almost to the point of obscuring details. None of these detracted from my viewing experience, however, and allowed me to finish my Star Wars marathon on a good note.
Nearsighted Scrappile said:
Yeah I’ve brought up the “wind tunnel” occurring during the Emperor’s arrival before. The music is actually a hodgepodge of 3 different cues, and NONE of the source material has that flanging, phasing in and out effect. That tells me that it luckily didn’t happen at the scoring sessions, but at some point when being mixed down for God-knows how many prints were going to be produced. I have yet to experience ANY copy of that part of the film that this is fixed. It drives me nuts as an “audio guy”, but unfortunately it was used as the master for umpteen million releases, even the BD. If it were up to me and I knew how to work with video, I would assemble the track and put it in the film. But, it is what it is. Something happened in mastering and mixing that made the speed of the film change slightly from the sound going on at the same time or vice versa. So yes, Ben Burtt makes mistakes like everyone else.