marcmartin

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Join date: 4-Jan-2007
Last activity: 17-May-2025
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Post: #264309
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264309/action/topic#264309
Time: 5-Jan-2007 6:23 PM

In the final scene there is no tracked music from 'Yoda and the Force'. The scene begins with the first establishing shot of the rebel fleet, then cuts inside the Falcon for Lando to say "Luke, we're ready for take-off" (but a different take of this is used. After Luke says (voice over), "Good Luck Lando", the scene cuts to inside the Rebel Cruiser where Luke says "I'll meet you for the rendezvous" etc. Not in this version are two more establishing shots of the fleet and an interim effects shot over which lando says "When we find Jabba the Hutt and that bounty hunter we'll contact you".

Yes, this matches my recollection (which was based on that cassette tape of the 70mm showing in Seattle that I listened to many times). And I didn't see a sneak preview -- it had probably been playing for weeks when I saw it.

Marc

Post: #264115
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264115/action/topic#264115
Time: 4-Jan-2007 9:46 PM

Marc, if you still have the cassette tape, that would be awesome.

Sorry... I just checked, and I don't have those cassettes anymore... I probably
had them 10 years ago, but not anymore...

Also, I just scanned the Cinefex ESB article, and I don't see any reference
to the last minute addition of the extra rebel fleet shot, so I don't know
where I read that.

Marc (no help at all)

Post: #264025
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264025/action/topic#264025
Time: 4-Jan-2007 6:03 PM

And while i am 100% convinced that the cut described in the original post does not exist nor ever did/q]

Note that the Wikipedia entry for "Changes made from the 70mm version of ESB" lists a LOT
of changes from the 70mm version. One of them listed there that I recall seeing on a bootleg
was the part where 3PO had an extra line in the asteroids, saying "there's no where to go":

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_changes_in_Star_Wars_re-releases#The_Empire_Strikes_Back

Marc

Post: #264017
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264017/action/topic#264017
Time: 4-Jan-2007 5:48 PM

That might be an actual good source, as it seems that any missing/added shots would be mostly of the FX nature. If you have the time look up that issue (i know it is a lengthy and somewhat dry read).

I'll check, and if I find it, I'll scan it... also I guess I better check my box of remaining
casette tapes, to see if I kept what I recorded in the theater in 1980 (who would have
thought that it would come in handy 27 years later!)

Marc

Post: #264011
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/264011/action/topic#264011
Time: 4-Jan-2007 5:35 PM

Originally posted by: Sluggo
Sweet! More conveniently lost documentation.

Well, I'm sure that magazine article talking about the changes they made to the movie
after the premiere still exists SOMEWHERE. Probably the Cinefex issue for ESB... (which
I still do have...)

Marc

Post: #263997
Topic: Info Wanted: Question about 1980 uncut Empire
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263997/action/topic#263997
Time: 4-Jan-2007 4:43 PM

So, it seems there was no picture differentiations. They came close to including an earlier version of a cloud city shot and ommitting a final rebel fleet shot, but in the end all these things came through at the last moment due to the tireless work of the crew, and the prints were able to ship out in identical picture lock.

This is not true. I saw the 70mm version of ESB six times when it was shown in Seattle, audiotaped it and had heard dozens of times at home. When I saw the 35mm version I was shocked to see an extra scene of rebel spaceships that wasn't in the 70mm version. I think the Lando dialog was added too (I no longer have the tape). The 70mm went from the jump to lightspeed to one shot of the rebel spaceships zooming in on the medical ship. The 35mm has an extra scene of spaceships that was spliced in.

I remember reading in a magazine that they added this scene because the audience clapped too long after the jump to lightspeed, and people couldn't hear the dialog afterwards.

As for the other scenes, I do recall having an early bootleg that differed from what I saw in the theaters, and also differed from the video release of ESB.

Marc