m_s0

Here’s a trailer for the shorts:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B65jlK6a5FA

Apparently. I guess some of you lucky people might get to watch it, but not all of us peasants can get through the geoblock. Message received, CBS, I guess I’ll go watch something else, then.

Oh, and here’s some people in a room with Sir Patrick Stewart eating his glasses. I thought Goldsman was off the show… I could think of more welcome sights for a promo photo, honestly.

OK, thread’s back to collecting dust now.

Tobar said:

Looks like the Kelvin Timeline is dead

Well, the 3rd season of Twin Peaks had gone through publicly bumpy negotations that included Lynch throwing in the towel at one point, but it happened in the end:

https://www.syfy.co.uk/news/bad-news-david-lynch-wont-be-directing-the-twin-peaks-revival

They’ll work something out - hopefully with the side effect of scaling the budget down to where it’ll be possible to make it back this time around?

Handman said:

pittrek said:

Ethan Peck is the new Spock for Discovery season 2.

Ugh. Spock shouldn’t be on that show. I saw the trailer, and the way they worded “It all leads to Spock!!!” or something like that was ridiculous. Spock was literally just a guy in the original show. A conflicted, important Starfleet guy, but still just a guy.

It still took them longer than I expected to play the ‘Chosen One’ card this explicitly. Pretty much a decade into the Kelvin reboot movies, though those have already been plotted out in that manner to a large extent (Kirk is destined to be the captain, his friendship with Spock is destined to happen etc - no matter how contrived both end up being).

Handman said:

Yeah, pretty much. We already got four lackluster films. But I’m cautiously optimistic, since Stewart seemed a little wary to return. So I’m hoping that whatever they pitched him, was a good enough idea that will show in the finished production.

A large sack of cash is what they pitched him.

They got Hall H for Discovery at Comic Con, even though (reportedly) they weren’t able to fill it. CBS is in a spending mood.

SilverWook said:

Back to the prime universe, baby!

Taking into consideration that DSC is prime (officially), and factoring in how unlike prime DSC was… I’d hold off on assuming just about anything outside the fact that Patrick Stewart will possibly be involved in some capacity in a series tied to the cross-media ‘Star Trek’ franchise, and perhaps that ‘some capacity’ will involve him playing a character named ‘Picard’.

We’ve yet to see CBS do anything right with their ‘new’ take on Trek, so no reason to believe this will be anything different.

TV’s Frink said:

Yes but I don’t know how that has anything to do with what I said. Writer’s rooms are committees. Yes there’s a head writer but the blanket statement “good things don’t come from a committee” isn’t true.

I’d say not quite. Yeah, both are groups of people, but the implication that comes with ‘committee’ is a complete lack of regard for creativity. Ideally, with a writer’s room the creative aspect of the process is the focus… that might then get skewed by a network exec committee enforcing whatever they think will sell.

Semantics, but I feel they’re important here 😛

Did it fail? I mean it failed with many of the old fans, but did CBS All Access and / or Netflix publish any numbers?

I think ‘relative success’ would be a decent way of putting it. They got some new eyeballs, but likely not as many as they would’ve liked to get, nor can anyone be sure whether any of those eyeballs stuck wih their subscriptions once DSC ended. Unlikely, given that there really isn’t anything on there to watch. No official numbers past the initial free (half) episode as far as I know.

There’s also rumours (at least I think these were rumours) that Netflix wasn’t that happy with season 1 for what they paid for it (though I think they paid 2/3 of the cost of season 1 which is/used to be a standard network deal for TV shows? Feel free to correct me on this point).

It’s all very murky, but CBS is trying to frame it as a smash hit. That could be viewed as true within the context of CBSAA, which is very nearly a complete wasteland.

chyron8472 said:

pittrek said:

I feel ashamed I love it more than the Discovery trailer.

Why should you be ashamed? The Orville is a better show.

That speech in the trailer for The Orville is great, jokes land more often than before. Granted, they cherry-picked them, but it still looks to be a marked improvement over season 1.

Meanwhile, DSC is now trying for what The Orville is - seemingly - growing out of, thought not completely judging by the bits they showed thus far.

I like Anson Mount as Pike a la Greenwood. They tried to make Georgiou into that kind of a character, but it never clicked for me. Michelle Yeoh seemed bored with her.

Now, if they space Burnham by season 3 and turn this mess into The Cpt. Pike Show I’d be happy about that (because they clearly have no clue on how to make her interesting. The Borg incident fleshed Picard out in a much-needed way, but the character was still worth following before that. Here you basically need something to that effect for the character to work at all, and I don’t think I want to see what the DSC creative team can come up with…). This far into DSC I don’t really care about breaking cannon since it’s tough to consider it Prime as it is, so just give me an entertaining show that isn’t trying too hard in either direction.

If this were another show I would’ve powered through without giving it much thought, but after some of the highs you get with Mr. Robot a clear reminder that it’s someone’s day job hit me pretty hard.

I’ll see if I can fit it into my Star Trek rewatch. I might wait for season 4 to be out, though.

ChainsawAsh said:

Fantastic show. I urge anyone who gave up during the admittedly slow second season to give it another chance.

That happened to me a few months back. It wasn’t that it was slow. It was a bad, protracted rehash of bits from season 1 - without the sense of direction or drive that the first season had. It was the entire “get on with it” package, basically.

Season 1 was great, often uniquely so. I might pick it up again at some point.

Most likely, but who knows? Might just as well be an assumption that got spread along with the rumor it was based on.

Haarspalter said:
But the movie event of being sucked into space belongs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EYJbzQdTVw

Meanwhile, in Discovery news:

https://deadline.com/2018/06/star-trek-discovery-james-duff-joins-executive-producer-overall-deal-jenny-lumet-olatunde-osunsanmi-promoted-1202419818/

EXCLUSIVE: The Closer creator James Duff has joined CBS All Access’ Star Trek: Discovery as executive producer. It is part of an overall development deal he has signed with series producer CBS TV Studios.

Additionally, writer Jenny Lumet (Rachel Getting Married), who joined the series as a consulting producer at the start of Season 2, has been promoted to co-executive producer. Co-executive producer Olatunde Osunsanmi has been upped to executive producer and will serve as the series’ producer/director based on set in Toronto.

I’m just advising against picking up no-name hardware that the official specifications of quite often don’t matter much. Chinese ‘HD’ capture cards being a fun example.

Anyway, I didn’t mean this as a personal insult. Sorry if you felt this way.

A solid 1080p projector will set you back around 400$ new, even less used - that’s for a reputable brand. I’d say they’re cheap to the point where bothering with potential Chinese crap isn’t really worth it… And these can do 100" from a distance of about 2m - that’s for long throw models. Short throw projectors can do the same image from right next to the screen, basically - depending on how you plan your setup there are options.

If you’re just getting into the topic you might want to read up on DLP vs 3LCD as well.

chyron8472 said:

Handman said:

Should I try watching Discovery? I’ve heard the most horrid things, and I’m a huge fan of TOS.

No. My understanding is that the last little bit of Season 1 starts the crew adopting some semblance of Prime-Universe-Starfleet’s ideals, but I haven’t watched that far.

Some of the characters say/agree with something to that effect (extremely contrived), but you don’t get that from the series, i.e. the series does not reflect any of those ideals.

It’s an interesting watch, but not for the right reasons.

Here we go again:

http://trekcore.com/blog/2018/06/star-trek-discovery-showrunners-harberts-berg-out-for-season-2/

series showrunners Aaron Harberts and Gretchen J. Berg have been released from the series as Season 2 continues production in Toronto.

The pair leave the series as of Episode 205, reports The Hollywood Reporter, and while they’ll be credited on their episodes of the next season of Discovery, the show will be led by executive producer Alex Kurtzman for the remainder of the season. Kurtzman, who got his start in the Trek franchise in the Kelvin Timeline film series, has been with Discovery since the show’s original announcement in late 2015.

Also departing the series for Season 2 is executive producer Akiva Goldsman, director of “Context is for Kings” and Season 1’s finale “Will You Take My Hand?.” Goldsman had, as THR reports, “a management style and personality that clashed with the writing staff.”

The series is about to take a “a planned production hiatus” after Episode 205 is completed, not expected to impact delivery of the series to viewers in 2019, to allow Kurtzman to settle in as the new showrunner and straighten things out inside the Discovery production machine.

Sishyo512 said:

m_s0 said:

It sounded odd to me as well when I found that bit of info here:

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=683662

By now [2010], ‘Attack of the Clones’ has been released uncut on DVD in Great Britain as part of the Prequel Trilogy Box.

Thanks for checking!

I was starting to get somewhere with my film reel restoration, but as I was about to pour some of my money into it, I see this post.

Well whaddya know…

Actually, I checked that 2008 UK box and the cut is still there.

I do wonder what Kubrick would say about the proliferation of teal in modern film. No one seems to give a damn, cinematographers included.

If this was achieved exclusively through photochemical means that negative must have been in perfect shape. Happens all the time in film restoration.

It sounded odd to me as well when I found that bit of info here:

https://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=683662

By now [2010], ‘Attack of the Clones’ has been released uncut on DVD in Great Britain as part of the Prequel Trilogy Box.

Thanks for checking!

OK, so here’s a question not for the faint of heart.

Was the dreaded headbutt reinstated for the 2008 UK Prequel DVD Box?

Wexter said:

m_s0 said:

Wexter said:

m_s0 said:

Yoda Is Your Father said:

m_s0 said:

joefavs said:

Here’s a pretty good article about the film: https://www.avclub.com/part-kurosawa-part-wile-e-coyote-the-last-jedi-boldl-1821291545

RE: Ackbar vs. Holdo, the author of this piece has a good point in a response to a comment:

Ignatiy Vishnevetsky said:

Lotta folks seem to think that her role should have gone to good ol’ Admiral Ackbar, but I get Johnson’s intention: Everybody likes Ackbar, and the audience needs to be fooled into Poe’s point-of-view.

Probably why she didn’t get a proper ‘hero’ introduction as well. It’s a trade-off, but one I liked given where and how it’s taken: this is all Poe’s point of view - to the very end, and that’s why his turn into a proper leader works in the finale.

The more I think about it, the more I appreciate how well-written this film is.

Poe got a bunch of people killed because he was reckless and disobeyed orders. But it’s cool because ‘Ah, that’s just how Poe is, the little scamp’.

It’s war, and that’s not his first, nor his only deed.

If he kept pulling stuff like that in an actual war, his superiors would have him shot in the head.

Thankfully, this is drama (with a slant towards action adventure). This is a character flaw, not a movie flaw - I really don’t get the complaints here. At worst, I’d put this in the same ballpark as Chewie being best friends with Lando at the end of ESB, even though he probably should’ve murdered that traitor the first chance he outgrew his usefulness (which would have been almost immediately).

Sorry, but the comparison doesn’t work at all. Lando has earned the forgiveness of the rest of the gang. That was on a personal level. On military level, if you are going to brush off a soldier acting like a complete psychotic, pointing guns at superiors and making decisions that result in people dying, with “oh, ain’t he a cute hothead”, you are seriously challenging the suspension of disbelief.

I guess my point was that it’s perfectly of a piece with what Star Wars is - to me, I guess, since some people tend to react to it as though it were an adaptation of an army field manual 😃

oojason said:

‘The Director and the Jedi - Documentary Review’… (by HelloGreedo)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHH3InY8mFA

 

Much better than I expected - not as overwhelmingly corporate-fluffy. Or maybe it’s just the next level of comouflage for this sort of fare. Fun watch on the whole, though I’d prefer something meatier.

adywan said:

Looks really nice. One or two notches above the usual promotional/official graphic art.

Also:

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

Moon (2009)

A really enjoyable, interesting, and realistic science fiction film. A masterpiece? No. But a really great directorial debut. I’m definitely going to try and seek out what Duncan Jones has done since.

It pains to me to say this, but… um… maybe don’t? Or at least don’t get your expectations too high.

I haven’t seen Source Code since it came out, but I do remember hating it quite a bit after seeing what he’s capable of in Moon. Warcraft I haven’t forced myself to sit through, I just can’t muster the will. It’s a blockbustery studio flick, though, so it might be perfectly acceptable cinematic fast-food.

Mute is an utter disaster, but this one I feel sympathetic towards. There’s clearly heart and several great films in this disjointed, badly written, often poorly acted, miscast mess. It feels as if just about everything that could’ve gone wrong has gone horribly wrong, except for Clint Mansell who knocks it out of the park again.

I’ve just seen it, so it’s all really loose thoughts at this point, but the failure to do anything with the main character and the thematic thread that’s set up, but never really followed through… at all and then somehow concluded without there being a thematic thread to conclude… completely kills this movie. On that note, the screenplay they filmed feels like a failed initial draft that should’ve been thrown out half-way through writing. It really is that bad. Several decades of polish too many?

In view of the above, Paul Rudd is incredibly grating as the counterpoint to the protagonist (?). He’s focusing on playing against type to the point where he loses track of the movie, it feels like.

And they should’ve gone lighter on the special effects - they’re distractingly terrible. Minor quibble in the grand scheme of things, but annoying given that the worldbuilding is pretty good.

At least it wasn’t boring.

DominicCobb said:

Mrebo said:

DominicCobb said:

All movies are political.

Depends what definition you have in mind.

True, and some are more political than others.

Black Panther would be one that is more political than others.

But less political than some others.

darthrush said:

Collipso said:

Is Black Panther as good as people are making it out to be? Marvel movies have recently been falling so flat to me (despite most of them getting great reviews) and feeling like basically CGI messes that I really am not excited even with all the praise.

I’ll be honest here. I enjoyed it well enough but it doesn’t live up to the hype. It’s nowhere near the Winter Solider or The Dark Knight which are my two favorites superhero movies. And there is a fair amount of crappy CGI throughout if your not fond of that. But it’s still a darn good movie. Just not great.

I feel it tries and feels relatively competent in areas modern blockbusters tend to ignore or pay lip service to at best. And really nothing more than competent. There’s a basic thematic thread, decent characters that support that thread well enough, and everything devolves into a whole lot of punching in a way that’s slightly less detrimental to the piece than you’d expect from an MCU installment. That said, it’s still pretty safe, a bit bland and not even ankle-deep as far substance is concerned, and I don’t really have any need to see it ever again. Disposable MCU product - I don’t mean it in a bad way, necessarily.

The movie is most impressive from a purely workmanlike point of view that has more to do with project management than moviemaking.