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#1299083
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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screams in the void said:

luckydube56 said:

screams in the void said:

^ or maybe Dash Rendar ?

Where did Dash Rendar come from again? Fan fiction? Is he part of the canon? And why does he exist? Meaning why is he a rogueish sarcastic smuggler?

I’m starting to wonder if Star Wars was really meant to continue in perpetuity like it is. It seems like the OT was a self contained story filled with archetypes. So they’re just going to keep using this limited number of archetypes? Didn’t the Disney cartoon series have some kind of non-human character playing the role of strong man a la Chewbacca?

I was being a bit sarcastic , meant as a joke , but now that I think about it , the character of Dash Rendar , who made his debut in Shadows of The Empire , is not beyond the possibilty of showing up in the mandalorian . Dave Filoni brought a lot of old “legends” concepts back into “canon” in The Clone Wars , including the Falleen species and Black Sun who also made their debut in Shadows Of The Empire .What I am also saying is that the use of these tropes is not a new thing exclusive to Disney , they have been there for a long long time . Dash was indeed portrayed as a sarcastic rogue smuggler . There was even a character named Rik Duel in the original Marvel Star Wars comic that was basically Han with a goatee who was also a sarcastic smuggler.There are lots of other decades old examples if you look closely .

That cuts to the heart of the issue for me.

Let me be clear that I’m not trying to derail this thread or bash the series as I think it looks like the most promising thing I’ve seen from the Lucasfilm franchise in 30years.

I just am beginning to wonder if Star Wars is really just a self contained 3 film expression of the hero myth with some very well defined and classic character archetypes. If all Disney or anyone else for that matter can come up with is a rehash of the same archetypes I have genuine curiosity as to whether this franchise is being stretched far beyond what it was intended.

Well…enough of my off topic musings. This series looks great.

Between Netflix, Amazon, and HBO ive got enough susbscriptions so I’ll probably wait til the first season is done and subscribe for a month and binge watch it. Assuming that is an option.

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#1298797
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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DominicCobb said:

I think at this point Boba Fest has too much baggage, between EU fan expectations and the canon realities of the character. A new Mando allows a completely blank slate (which is what made Boba interesting in the first place).

That’s a fair point.

But I almost feel like Disney is winking at us.

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#1298786
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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screams in the void said:

^ or maybe Dash Rendar ?

Where did Dash Rendar come from again? Fan fiction? Is he part of the canon? And why does he exist? Meaning why is he a rogueish sarcastic smuggler?

I’m starting to wonder if Star Wars was really meant to continue in perpetuity like it is. It seems like the OT was a self contained story filled with archetypes. So they’re just going to keep using this limited number of archetypes? Didn’t the Disney cartoon series have some kind of non-human character playing the role of strong man a la Chewbacca?

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#1298780
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The Mandalorian - Star Wars Live action TV series : <strong>NO SPOILERS</strong>
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Question for Mandalorian experts. Why do all Mandalorians have Boba Fett’s personality and occupation?

From what I’m told, the mandalorian in this series is not Boba Fett.

If they wanted some character of a mandalorian bounty hunter who is quiet and deadly, why not just make him Boba Fett?

I’m told the IG88 thing in the trailer is actually some other IG droid…and a bounty hunter I guess??

I can tell I’m going to like this series from what I’ve seen. I just question what Disney is trying to do. Are they trying to completely disassociate Lucas and his universe from what they’re trying to do while simultaneously copying all his character archetypes? Will they come up with a brand new roguish sarcastic smuggler who goes by the name of Han Duo and call him an original Disney character?

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#1293347
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Best Explanation Of Mary Sue Issue
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There is nothing inherently sexist about Mary Sue. To me the term conjures notions of a lazily conceived character. Ray’s fully realized messianic chosen oneness is reminiscent of Anakin Skywalker in the PT; another unlikeable, unrelatable and flat character. One of the best heroines ever devised, in my opinion, is Beatrix Kiddo. And while she was a fully formed character when we met her, she certainly did not get there without her trials and tribulations which we get to witness in flashback form.

The very idea of messiahs are antithetical to the every man nature of the original trilogy which are the bed rock of the Star Wars universe. To claim otherwise would be to place the PT and the ST in a position more true to form in Star Wars lore with the OT as some bad outlier. The supremely gifted force user is a revisionist construct that never really fit in with the OT (IMO) and seems to have come from the expanded universe.

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#1255757
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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screams in the void said:

present company excluded , was more referring to some who came out of nowhere and never posted elsewhere , the volatile shitposters , some of the volatile shit posters who are no longer around . I could be wrong though , probably am , but was just speculating .here is a real russian bot btw …https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a22802198/russia-unveils-giant-combat-walker/

Hi

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#1235920
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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dahmage said:

^ kid, get your priorities straight.

Explain. I have a good job. I’m not rich by any means but it’s a good paying job. I have a fiancé. A terrific gal and the love of my life. Her mother even likes me. I pay my taxes every year and I stay out of trouble. Was there something I forgot to do before jumping on a Star Wars forum with less than 30 posts to my credit and discussing an interest of mine?

My priorities are out of line? What if I disagreed?

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#1235904
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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So…no acting like an asshole permitted in this thread. No d!cks either. Only pu$$ies?

Sorry. It was too easy and had to be done.

I know you want to put a spin on this but this place welcomes one opinion. And it claims that one side is being attacked. But when you look at the thread again you have to wonder who is attacking who.

So let’s discusss fan toxicity but without involving the so called toxic fans? Aka…the a$$holes. But don’t say safe space because it’s derogatory.

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#1235519
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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DrDre said:

luckydube56 said:

screams in the void said:

luckydube56 said:

The leadership over at Disney says the reason why the franchise is taking a nosedive is because:

  1. half the fans are racist and sexist.
  2. the other half is just sick of the franchise.

These are clearly brilliant statements with the full weight of truth behind it.

see OP and kindly knock it off please .

After having phrased it as you did, I don’t believe you can ask for that. That’s like saying “Ok everyone, I’ll be the good guy and you be the villain”. No. What if I don’t think I’m the villain. Toxicity? The franchise itself was poisoned and you, like RJ and Kennedy, are “taking a stand”?

This franchise belongs to us. We all said so in unison when Lucas proclaimed he would destroy the original version of the OTs in favor of the remastered editions. Rian Johnson says it’s his film so if you don’t like then tough t!ts.

Truth be told, I don’t have that much of a dog in the fight and in some way I can see RJs perspective. I can drop this film from my own head canon. None of this sequel trilogy ever happened as far as I’m concerned. But I tend to feel more sympathetic towards those that feel abandoned.

If you are taking a stand, then it’s against somebody so this idea that you were gonna have this one sided stand-taking thread is silly.

Have at it.

I don’t really see what disliking the current batch of Star Wars movies has to do with the topic of this thread, unless you’re arguing not liking a movie gives you the right to behave like an *******? I also don’t remember anyone claiming the franchise belongs solely to the fans, or that fans should be allowed to dictate its future, woe to those that dare to ignore the fans’ wishes. In either case the OP determines the thread topic. Those are the rules. If you don’t like it, take it up with the mods/admin…
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You are correct. I have indeed stumbled upon the wrong thread.

Apologies to screams in the void. I will leave my posts up as a testament to my careless stupidity. Feel free to facepalm my posts. I would also be remiss if I failed to extend my admiration to Dre for his heroism. I would move my posts to the thread about culture but I must now resume my slumber.

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#1235512
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Taking a stand against toxic fandom (and other )
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screams in the void said:

luckydube56 said:

The leadership over at Disney says the reason why the franchise is taking a nosedive is because:

  1. half the fans are racist and sexist.
  2. the other half is just sick of the franchise.

These are clearly brilliant statements with the full weight of truth behind it.

see OP and kindly knock it off please .

After having phrased it as you did, I don’t believe you can ask for that. That’s like saying “Ok everyone, I’ll be the good guy and you be the villain”. No. What if I don’t think I’m the villain. Toxicity? The franchise itself was poisoned and you, like RJ and Kennedy, are “taking a stand”?

This franchise belongs to us. We all said so in unison when Lucas proclaimed he would destroy the original version of the OTs in favor of the remastered editions. Rian Johnson says it’s his film so if you don’t like then tough t!ts.

Truth be told, I don’t have that much of a dog in the fight and in some way I can see RJs perspective. I can drop this film from my own head canon. None of this sequel trilogy ever happened as far as I’m concerned. But I tend to feel more sympathetic towards those that feel abandoned.

If you are taking a stand, then it’s against somebody so this idea that you were gonna have this one sided stand-taking thread is silly.

Have at it.

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#1220607
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<em>Solo: A Star Wars Story</em> — Official Review and Opinions Thread — <strong>SPOILERS</strong>
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Wanted to see a Solo film but was not interested in the origin story. Was hoping for a series of action sci fi films of his non-connected exploits. Like the Indiana Jones Trilogy.

I really do not need to understand the source of his tragedy/loneliness. I dont want the further romanticization of his character. That was already handled in the OT.

Just Solo + Chewie + Falcon and occasional Lando put into various situations. Add some comedy and witty dialog and you got success. No depth required. No need to interconnect.

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#1202902
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Han - Solo Movie ** Spoilers **
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How old is Solo supposed to be in this film?

Something about Lando seems odd to me. If these guys are supposed to be 20 yr olds, should Lando be so well established in the criminal underground? He looks like a boss. Should they be 28 yr olds? When does Solo go from being the cheeky kid to being the grizzled galactic smuggler?

These are minor annoyances but the movie looks fun.

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#1149779
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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adywan said:

luckydube56 said:

How many truly believe that there is a silent majority that likes or even loves this movie? Star Wars’ 2nd week plummet at the box office suggests that word of mouth is too strong and too widespread to be a mere small and vocal minority. I think the whole ‘small but vocal minority’ theory is being posited with the expectation that it dare not be challenged. I call bullsh!t.

Didn’t bother reading the articles then, just the headlines? 😉 The fact that the second week is the run up to Christmas has a lot to do with it. TFA’s second week drop off was $148 million. TLJ’s was $151. That’s just $3 million difference. Having Christmas fall on a weekend also has a huge impact on that weeks cinema box office takings, for all films. Yet TLJ has the second highest cinema takings for Christmas day in history. Second only to TFA.

Ehhhh…guilty as charged. I feel swatted.

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#1149630
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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How many truly believe that there is a silent majority that likes or even loves this movie? Star Wars’ 2nd week plummet at the box office suggests that word of mouth is too strong and too widespread to be a mere small and vocal minority. I think the whole ‘small but vocal minority’ theory is being posited with the expectation that it dare not be challenged. I call bullsh!t.

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#1149368
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

As someone who disliked the movie said previously, new Star Wars just isn’t for them anymore. I get the disappointment, I don’t get the anger.

5 Stages of Grief.

Shock. Anger. Bargaining. Depression. Acceptance.

They grieve over what they knew or thought Star Wars to be. That is to say, they don’t like RJ’s “certain point of view.” This new film casts a different light on the previous films, given context with them, and this then is a sort of cannot-unsee experience for them and they are having to cope with it.

They might be able to come to accept it. They might not. But they’re not there yet.

I liked TLJ, and so I don’t agree with their assessment. But I can understand it, and I don’t think telling them they’re fools for being angry is warranted. They’ll get over it. Just give them time.

Agree totally. I didnt like TLJ and I’ve decided to ignore it from my own head canon.

But for some, TLJ was a step too far. Rian Johnson, with the full authority of canon, told fans that Luke Skywalker is transformed into someone else. Let us not forget that Star Wars is a very special thing to its fans. For many its a part of their childhood. To see that Luke went from being the idealist to being nihilist is too much for a huge swath of the fanbase.

Fans, myself included, may just not realize what we want. We wanted these characters back but we had to have expected that an extension of a character’s arc could very well have included a revision of it.

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#1148939
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Anjohan said:

The Last Jedi has become bad because people can’t comprehend new directions for a 40-year old franchise. Get over it.

Episode IX WILL probably be predictable as fuck and all SW fans will rejoice.

I’m lucky in that I can ignore TLJ and TFA in my own mental canon. Others are struggling with what they see as the destruction of what they know to be Star Wars.

But to claim that people are simply unable to adjust to change is disingenuous. This isnt change. This is degradation.

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#1145341
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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Why is there a need to challenge the older narratives of Star Wars? Aren’t those narratives part and parcel to Star Wars? At least the old ones? And why utilize the characters who were integral to that old narrative to challenge the narrative? It seems an odd choice. An almost doubling back on itself.

It’s one thing to say “this is a new trilogy, take it or leave it”. That’s not quite what happened here.