Lucas the Barbarian

JackNapier said:

Is it incest or masturbation if you have sex with a clone of yourself?

Should I change my signature to that?

Despecialized v1.0 is coming up on its 10th anniversary.

Back to the Future
Ferris Bueller’s Day Off
Scream (1996)
Spider-Man Trilogy (2002-2007)
Shrek
The Exorcist
The Incredibles
This Is Spinal Tap

The Exorcist

Grunge didn’t “kill” the guitar solo like a lot of pretentious rock music snobs claim it did. They’re probably referring to Nirvana when they say that (although I love Nirvana, I’ll admit Kurt wasn’t exactly a guitar god), because the other three “big four” bands had a ton of songs with killer guitar solos.

With our luck it’ll most likely use the same 4K master as the previous Blu-ray with all the changes intact, and the “extensive visual effects work” might just be code for “more changes”…good thing this project exists at least!

I also think the 70mm mix is the best version sonically. In terms of content, though, I think the mono mix would be the definitive version - it’s the mix that had the most effort put into it since most theaters at the time were only equipped for mono, and that would be the mix most people would hear (kind of like how the Beatles put the most effort into the mono mixes of their albums for the same reason). Ben Burtt himself even considered it the definitive mix until SW came out on home video and the “inferior” stereo mix became the standard version…

My family and I finally upgraded to a 4K TV about two months ago, and while we were testing it out, I mentioned Filmmaker Mode and how its purpose is to turn off all the unnecessary filters so that the content looks exactly the way the creators intended (not just movies, but everything that’s not video games). When I turned it on, I was expecting them to start complaining about how iT’S ToO DaRk and all that, but I wasn’t expecting all of them to actually start talking about how Filmmaker Mode is the ONLY unnatural image setting. I tried explaining that it’s called FILMMAKER Mode because it’s supposed to make things look the way the FILMMAKER intended, and…they all looked at me like I was on crack.

I thought about sarcastically saying something like “Oh yEaHhHhHhHhHhH! Christopher Nolan didn’t know what he was doing when he filmed Dunkirk. All the guys who spent countless man hours color grading and calibrating everything down to the finest detail to their preferences in post production didn’t know what they were doing. Only the TV manufacturers are right! The way Dunkirk looked when you saw it in the theater WASN’T THE WAY THE FILMMAKERS INTENDED! THE TV MANUFACTURERS ARE RIGHT, THE FUCKING CREATORS ARE WRONG!!!” I never thought there could possibly be anyone who actually thought that.

And then…I stumbled across THIS pretentious douchebag’s video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0ilxD0lIy0

I totally understand that not everyone completely understands or is familiar with Filmmaker Mode yet, since it’s relatively new and they’ve been conditioned to just take their TVs out of the box, set them up, and that’s it, and they’ve gotten used to the overly bright, smoothed out, OT 2004 master-ish look of modern TVs, and 24fps or 30fps might look jarring to them, but this guy…THIS GUY…this guy HAS to be on crack if he’s making a video actively BLAMING THE CONTENT CREATORS and praising the TV manufacturers for getting it right and “fixing” the filmmakers’ perceived “laziness”. As far as I know, shooting actual feature length theatrical films at 60fps is extremely expensive, which is why it rarely ever happens. The filmmakers aren’t lazy - they’re RIGHT. It’s the TV manufacturers who’ve needed to step up their game for about 8 years now and finally are.

I mean, just look at what DrDre, Williarob, Harmy and company are doing right now - they’re spending time, money, and energy they will never get back into color-grading, manipulating, calibrating and perfecting a project that ultimately a few people will ever be able to see. When you watch Despecialized (and really any fan project from this site) on a modern TV in “Standard” mode, all those years of hard work they put into the project goes down the Sarlacc Pit. It’s the equivalent of preparing a high-quality haute cuisine dish, and then someone coming in and pouring ketchup all over it.

Sorry if that came across as SammyClassicSonicFan-ish, I just needed to get that out of my system since nobody else would listen to me.

Spuffure said:

It’s really sad when your childhood idol turns out to be a monster, at worst a you-know-what, or sometimes just a jerk.

Michael Jackson comes to mind, and even though I firmly believe he was innocent, I hate that I can never bring him up in a conversation or listen to his music around my friends since his name is practically synonymous with child molestation and they’ll get “Vietnam flashbacks” or whatever my fellow young whip’rsnap’rs call them. It’s a shame because in terms of influence and legacy he’s right up there with the Beatles, Frank Sinatra and Elvis.

I agree that zoomers ruined the word Karen (and I know this firsthand as a zoomer myself). One of my friends is actually named Karen, and the stereotypical description of Karens doesn’t apply to her at all, so as you can imagine, she hates the fact that own her name which has existed for decades, probably centuries, has recently become associated with entitled and racist T***p supporters, which she very much is not.

My all time favorite piece of SW poster artwork is the 1997 SE triptych made by Drew Struzan.

Where did the credits even come from?

NeverarGreat said:

“If Master Obi-Wan caught me doing this, he’d be very grumpy.”

George’s original unaltered treatments.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AEtbFm_CjE0

Not sure if this counts as weird, but it has a pretty unsettling vibe and may give you nightmares.

Harmy released an interview with Wilkins Animations on his YouTube channel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lrVcpkPDdyk

MattMahdi said:

I’m not sure how I feel about an uncensored Fantasia.

Getting back to the original film, without a number of digital enhancements, is unquestionably a good thing. But I’m not sure how I’ll feel when I actually see Sunflower present in the film itself instead as an excised curiosity.

Thank you, though, for your perseverance. I’ll look forward to seeing this!

I’m white, and watching that scene still makes me uncomfortable, but it was definitely part of the original film and should be preserved. I mean this isn’t the only time Disney has stereotyped nonwhite cultures, and many of them are STILL presented in their original form ([cough] What Made the Red Man Red [cough]).

KurganX said:

Most of us who “love” yub nub do so because of nostalgia, not because it’s some kind of objectively amazing thing. It’s kind of catchy, but if you’re not looking at it through nostalgia goggles, or as a child, sure, I guess it’s goofy.

But is the flute music created in 1997 really that much better?

I don’t have nostalgia bias towards Yub Nub - I grew up with the 2004 SE’s (tRaItOr, I know) and didn’t find out about the original versions until I was 12 or 13, and after having seen both (or all 5) versions…I think Yub Nub is objectively better. It feels and sounds appropriate for a children’s fantasy film from the 1980s instead of, like, a 90s Disney Renaissance movie like The Lion King or something.

Also I don’t get why everyone is making a big deal out of the pan flute - it only appears briefly at the beginning.

Impressive, most impressive.

Makes sense. I ask because I remember reading that the 1997 mix of ROTJ was included with the Destiny Edition, and that now that the 4K trilogy is nearing completion, the focus of Despecialized can shift to being an approximation of what an official restoration of the OOT would look like. I imagine it would almost certainly have at least a few audio tweaks like the “unaltered” (1993) mixes did in 2006, and these mixes sound like kind of the same idea but with different tweaks and in 5.1. But I do understand not wanting to include them as options for something that’s supposed to fill the void left by the lack of an official release.

I know this is a stupid question, but will these mixes be included with Despecialized v3.0 when they come out?

Even though I prefer Yub Nub, I do think Victory Celebration better fits the bittersweet ending of the trilogy, especially in the context of the prequels, in which, let me remind you: the main character gets BURNED ALIVE IN GRAPHIC DETAIL. In the context of 1983, though, I definitely agree with Mocata that it sounds out of place.

It turns out the reason it sounds like “90s new age” is that the temp track was taken from the soundtrack to this TV documentary series called 500 Nations. It aired in 1995 and sounds typical of History-Channel-type documentary background music from the late 90s and early 2000s.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pler4cr4yxo

There’s something oddly charming about synthesized generic new age being played by a live orchestra, though. I mean whatever, it still somewhat fits the tribal setting I guess.

I wish they had used these for the U.S. posters. They look much more in line with the Drew Struzan artwork for the SEs and PT.

Poita hasn’t been active on this site in 9 months because he’s focusing on actually working on his projects, so it could be a while before he gives updates for any of them.