losthead

Telion said:

losthead said:

I think a few of the shots he presented could be included together. If it only appears once, then it not appearing for the rest of the battle breaks up that continuity

I think the point of an easter egg is that they are sublte enough that in missing them, they aren’t missed. So I doubt if it done right (if at all), only being in one shot would make its absance in others notable.

Well, think of it like the Ghost in Rogue One. I entirely missed it on my first viewing, but it was in multiple shots to keep the battle consistent.

I think a few of the shots he presented could be included together. If it only appears once, then it not appearing for the rest of the battle breaks up that continuity

Has anyone seen this guy’s stuff? Nothing too groundbreaking, but he has a few vfx edits I’d love to include, both in the PT and OT.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9IOF0yucIQ

Not opposed to utilizing Midichlorians in the dialogue, but Palpatine didn’t create Anakin in canon.

??? What are you even talking about

Making a comparison in the choreography?

Fair enough lol, these videos are usually best as more fun experiments than actually implemented. I figured it was gonna pop up here sooner or later, may as well get it out of the way now.

Fair enough lol, these videos are usually best as more fun experiments than actually implemented. I figured it was gonna pop up here sooner or later, may as well get it out of the way now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NGQMg3Ef9JA This might be an option? Although the Knights of Ren still have normal weapons in the other scenes

I do like the slow version of DotF, but I feel like Rey and Ben’s final battle should at least have some hint of their duel theme.

Ideally, I always wanted the DS2 duel to be this big medley of songs from throughout the saga. The Rey vs Kylo soundtrack from TFA would be the main track, while Duel of the Fates, Battle of the Heroes, and A Jedi’s Fury would come in and out at different times. Sadly, it hasn’t been feasible before, really.

There is a shot in the fanfilm of smoke blowing out from Kylo’s ship in the forest, you may be able to use that for a transition.

Did you end up keeping Kylo’s line of “You underestimate my potential”? I thought it was a nice callback.

I think that’s probably as good as we’re gonna get on the Luke dialogue. In the interest of not clogging up with this thread with alternative dialogue, I vote it’s good.

For the Vader scene, do you plan to add a score? If so, I think this track from the Clone Wars may be fitting: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyHWr4n3Ne4

I think the answer here is to tie it in to Luke’s other line. “It will mean the end of the Jedi.” Imply that the Force chose her, but that she still has a chance of failure.

“You have many destinies, Rey. The Force gave you a choice.”

I’d definitely like to see it, not sure if I’d want to see the final fight without a single blue saber, but I’d still like to see the idea get made somehow, it has merit.

I’m not sure Anakin disproves that, though. He very well might have been able to resist Palpatine alone, but he chose the Dark Side. I think the importance choice in one’s fate is something that shouldn’t be understated. Rey could easily fall the same way as Anakin and Ben, and she’s been manipulated by Palpatine the same way, but its her choice not to that decides her destiny.

What about something like:

“Your destiny is your own, Rey. Not his.”

Like you said, I feel like the point of the scene is that whether or not Rey is a Palpatine is meaningless, as she can control her own destiny. It might be more effective if Luke hones in on that.

I love the edited scene here! I definitely agree that chopping down the more “fanfic” aspects of the scene is wise. I did notice that Kylo’s hood fluctuates a bit, but that’s not a huge deal.

I did really like the new exchange. Maybe Vader’s line could be “We both know who is more powerful”? Seems a bit more Vadery.

And seconded on Hal’s thing, I like the idea that the Force made both of them, but maybe don’t quite spell it out.

This one sounds fantastic

Is Spence’s version of the scene still out there? All the links seem to have broken.

Fair enough lol, just throwing things out there

Really loving both of these new takes, they’re fantastic. The Vader scene will be perfect, and I love the added emotion in the Kylo conversation.

Not sure if this is in any wheelhouse, but I wonder if a shot of Force Ghost Luke could be implemented anywhere. I’m a bit worried first time viewers wouldn’t make the connection with the voice alone.

I’m liking those lines a whole lot! I do kinda agree on the Luke conversation, but I don’t feel too strongly either way. I would be curious to hear the about to cry version, just to compare.

For the duel, maybe some buildup could be achieved by having Vader’s first line (Your fear is) come in before Kylo turns around? That way, its a sort of one-two reveal of his voice, then confirmation when we see him. Hope that makes sense

Jar Jar Bricks said:

Good to hear! I’ve already started assembling the Vader AI clone. Let’s cross our fingers that it turns out well. I see no reason why it shouldn’t but you never know with technology. For example, I just tried to create the following exchange between Zorri and Poe on Kijimi:

“How long has it been like this?”

“Ever since Skywalker. But everyone’s only out for themselves. I’ve saved up enough to get out…”

This would be a perfect way to convey an uprising on Kijimi without being too in your face about it or making it too clear what’s going to happen by the end of the movie. Because if they are all resisting as one because of Skywalker on Kijimi, then Poe has no right to complain the very next second about nobody coming on Crait and thinking the same thing is bound to happen again. But if Skywalker has only made selfish opportunists (at least from Zorri’s perspective) resist the First Order, then Poe has every reason to be apprehensive.

Anyway, while the voice clone sounds identical to the actress, it can’t quite pick up that weird voice modulation effect she has. Does anybody know how exactly that could be replicated? The only alternative would be to dub all of her lines in this scene when her visor is closed, but that seems kinda disrespectful to the actress. I’d love to include this for this edit and possibly even Ascendant v5, but until we replicate it that’s probably not happening. Not a big deal either way, but would be cool:

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1tiDKw2bx3SstVF2k7Sr_Q4eaccAoXCwd?usp=sharing

That’s great! I love sneaking in references that Luke’s actions had an effect on the galaxy, should’ve been more prevalent in the original film. Not sure how to work with the voice modulation, maybe try some filters?