I have what I think is the complete set of the Star Wars laserdisc collection in its original box, with some minor dents on it. I don’t have room for a laserdisc player any more, so I’m looking to get rid of them. I got them as a gift years ago, so it wouldn’t feel right making a profit off them. However, I’d be more than happy to send them to anyone here who would appreciate them for what they are, and is also willing to pay shipping. (I live in Washington State, just for reference if you’re figuring out a price in your head)
Please don’t just take them and resell them. I know there’s nothing I can do to stop you, but I’m just asking as a fellow human being.
If you want a player to go along with it, I’d also be happy to send that as well - it’s going to Goodwill otherwise. Though, be aware that shipping for that monstrosity will probably cost you more than the player itself would at a thrift shop if you can find one.
There is no real lead. Finn has just as much weight I would say. It is a similar mess as TPM.
This is absolutely and unequivocally true.
Saying that Rey not being the main, focus character for 100% of the movie is the same thing as TPM is definitely not absolutely and unequivocally true. You need to look at the effect that the lack of a single main character had on each film.
TFA split main character duty between two likable characters (you can argue to what degree this happens, but I can see the argument that Finn is at least partially a main character), and the film kept its momentum up as focus shifted between the two. Regardless of which one was driving the action, I cared about the events we saw as we followed either one.
In TPM, the lack of a protagonist (along with many other failings) kept people from having a window through which to care about the film’s events. It wasn’t that we didn’t have a clear protagonist, it’s that none of the potential protagonists were interesting enough to make people care.
It’s easy to take shots at a movie by saying that it failed to hit certain beats, or to say that the “best kind of” protagonist needs to conform to some kind of specific structure, but I don’t understand why Rey not being the only main character means it’s not a good movie.
Post Praetorian said:
Ah…perhaps therein might lie my chief difficulty…perhaps I simply do not like the next generation…possibly because it makes me feel old…? 😉
I totally understand that reason for not liking it. If you don’t like the new characters and the story and effects just didn’t grab you - I disagree, but I get where you’re coming from. The people I don’t understand are the ones who didn’t like TFA because it “didn’t make any sense”.
I just think TFA tries too hard to please and in doing so loses your immersion and the emotional connection (at least for me).
I definitely felt this, but I feel like a lot of it came from the audience I saw it with. I didn’t think Han’s introduction was really that reverent and it didn’t break my immersion too much - it was the cheering in the theater that pulled me out of the movie.
Post Praetorian said:
Is this not possibly due in large part to the fact that the Terminator franchise deals with, at it’s heart, time travel…? So a re-casting of events seemingly falls almost entirely within the scope of it’s core narrative…
I suppose so, but if time travel as a plot element justifies mirroring an earlier film, I would argue that a plot about passing the baton to the next generation justifies that structure just as well, if not better.
I don’t get all the hate for it being a “remake” of Star Wars. I don’t think it mirrored that film any more than Terminator 2 mirrors the first Terminator. It hits all the same beats, but does so in a new way, and has a generally different feeling and tone to it.
I really, really liked TFA. It was a fun watch, and made me even more excited for VIII than I already was from my love of Rian Johnson.
The movie made me feel something - I felt excited, scared, tense, a lot of the same feelings I got from watching the OT. Of course it’s no ESB, but in my eyes, no movie ever will be.
I really didn’t care that it didn’t make perfect sense. I’m with Frink’s view in a different (terrible) thread that it’s just a movie and sometimes logical leaps are necessary, but I don’t think that’s the full picture. Some movies rely on the plot’s complexity to entertain, and those do need to be airtight. If you’re watching a movie and focusing on its logos, critiques like the ones I’m seeing - that the Millennium Falcon happened to be on Jaaku, that the tie fighter happened to crash in quicksand, that Maz happened to have the lightsaber - are perfectly valid.
But watching any Star Wars movie with a focus on logos over pathos is a mistake - that’s not what these movies are about. Star Wars has always been at its best when it comes to big emotions. Nobody complains when Luke happens to crash walking distance from Yoda’s hut in ESB, because how Luke gets there isn’t what the movie’s about, and that little logical speedbump is worth it for the great scenes that follow.
Granted, there’s a few more moments like this in the new film than the OT, and I wouldn’t rank it close to Star Wars or ESB, but it’s still my view that if those things really bothered you enough to where you hated this movie as much as the prequels, I don’t understand what you liked about the Original Trilogy.
Personally, I think it looked amazing on the Tantive, but the stuff on Tatooine looked a bit rough.
Regardless, watching it still gave me the same feeling ESB Grindhouse, which I haven't felt in a long time. Can't wait for more.
While a lot of the dialog before the final duel in RotS is painful ("If you aren't with me, you're my enemy", "Only Sith deal in absolutes", etc), I really like the way the "together we'll rule the galaxy" speech Anakin gives Padme echos Empire.
Really, anything that implies that Anakin's corrupted by the idea of power like he's supposed to be and not just an easily manipulated idiot was a plus, and it was some (relatively) good acting.
Also, I've always liked the scene in TPM when they're at the dinner table in Anakin's house and Qui-Gon jokes that he may have a lightsaber because he killed a Jedi. It had a few warm, genuine performances (mostly thanks to Liam Neeson) which the movies desperately needed more of.
I also liked the scene where Anakin has to leave his mom and she tells him not to turn back. One of the only scenes in the PT I can remember that made me feel anything. Sure, he never actually made an attempt to go back and free her, but that's AotC's fault, not TPM's.
and don't forget Gotham having amnesia about The Joker, who somehow went form being the most feared man in the city to not existing
This never bothered me - there was an eight year gap between Dark Knight and Dark Knight Rises, and an effort was made to shift the blame to Batman, so it would make sense that the public wouldn't really care about one crazy serial killer from almost a decade ago.
Every time I see a picture of the carbonite freezing room, the world gets a little bit brighter.
I've been obsessed with the idea of a good 3-in-1 edit for a few months now, and your plot structure looks like one of the best ways to do that.
The issue that stopped me cold was how to make that ten year time jump flow in a way that wasn't really jarring. You have any ideas on how to do that?
Nearsighted Scrappile said:
Wow, still no answer so I'll try again.
Is the MKV not effected by this revelation about the sound on the AVCHD? Or, does the MKV have to also be remuxed with a fix?
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Almost halfway through downloading it on myspleen and can't contain my excitement. From the bits and pieces I was able to see from my incomplete tpb download, this looks like what I've been waiting to see ever since the first time I saw the words "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away...." appear on a television screen.
I can't ever thank you enough for this, Harmy. :)
Just watched through the entire trilogy, and I have to say that this really is an achievement. You found a good movie hiding inside Phantom Menace, and a borderline really good movie hiding in Revenge of the Sith. Unfortunately, all that was hiding underneath Attack of the Clones was a slightly less bad movie, but you can only do so much as an editor.
Aside from a few slightly jarring cuts in the music, Phantom Menace's awkward ending (which legitimately jump-scared me when I got to it), and the blockade run's somewhat frenetic editing it was incredibly good.
Out of curiosity, what song is playing in the second half of the trailer? It sounds familiar but I can't quite place it.
Now if people talk about the prequels, I can finally have something to add that isn't just "I hated them". Thanks for that.