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#263985
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Idea: Muppet Family Christmas
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There’s been much discussion on this site about preserving the original Muppet Family Christmas, as broadcast, because the commercially available DVD version is incomplete.

I have a tape of the original, complete broadcast of the show and am willing to send it to someone who promises to make as good a capture as possible, given the source material (probably ELP on an almost 20 year old tape). I tried using a basic VHS-to-DVD recorder transfer and posted it to Demonoid before Christmas, so you can find it there if your interest is piqued.

There are, I think, two ways this preservation could go:

  1. A straightforward preservation of the VHS tape, which would be consistent in quality.
  2. A mix of the available DVD where possible and the VHS tape where necessary, which would have higher quality at some points, but lesser at others.

I appreciate all the work people on this site do, but my technical skills–and my equipment–are nowhere near adequate for this task. All I can do is provide the tape and my gratitude to someone who can preserve it for posterity.

Thanks to everyone who does so much for this site.

Kevin

PS: PMs are on.

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#263754
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Info: Kubrick's 'The Shining'... US & International versions
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/263754/action/topic#263754
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Originally posted by: Murch
Came across this article, I've only seen the American version (which as far as I remember has all of these scenes mentioned - except for the epilogue) I think it would be interesting to see the "international" version (even though it would be the opposite of the usual preservations around here, actually having LESS footage) - the author of this article doesn't mention any additions in the international version, but I wonder if there would be any alternate line readings etc, has anybody here ever seen the epilogue with Wendy and Danny in the hospital? Was it ever shown on tv?

http://www.visual-memory.co.uk/sk/films/cutshining.htm


I'm assuming it must have at some point, because I have (an admittedly hazy) memory of having seen the epilogue.
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#261622
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261622/action/topic#261622
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Gack! That sounds awful on a technological level.

My sense is that Zell is supposed to be this super-powerful agent, but he's not really that good. Think about what he proposes to Harris in that first scene, and maybe it's not surprising that he doesn't get Harris any work, leading Harris to go back to the "serious" news bit. I think this is also borne out by the fact that the first thing he recommends to Harris is doing the same parade Harris just refused to do for his earlier agent. Bottom line: If you don't think they work, leave 'em out. Steve Martin didn't think they worked, either. Same goes for the scene where Zell zooms in.

Thanks for all the work--I hope it goes more easily.
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#261205
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261205/action/topic#261205
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I like the shot of Harris skipping--could you, instead of the music, loop in the dialogue from Zell: "It looks too desperate if you run to a meeting," which may explain why he is skipping?


Right, that's from the earlier scene, but could you include it as an off-screen voice, sort of reminding Harris not to look too desperate as he goes into the bank? That's what I meant to say, link it back to Zell more clearly and make it less out of nowhere.

Skating argument seems to go right where you think it does, following the scene where Harris gives his big speech about "whatever it is that you scretly know would make you stay . . .," and before the scene where Sara is inside her house packing and Harris starts reciting poetry and singing.
EDITED: Incidentally, I agree with cutting it.
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#261182
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261182/action/topic#261182
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As far as the other questionable scene, it has Harris walking outside in the morning in his robe picking up the morning paper. Harry Zell noisily rockets in and says something and abruptly leaves. It says scene 151 (if that helps). Sc. 131 is Zell skipping.


Not in there at all. Which would justify leaving it out, I guess. I would tend to put it about the same place as you suggested. I'd put it between Sara saying "Good night, Mum" and Harris driving up to her house. As for dialogue . . . Maybe something about how he caught Harris skipping the other day and recognized in him a closeted seriousness? (That might or might not require leaving in the skipping to the Fourth bank.) Or you could loop some of the tuba music over it, leaving it in so it makes sense when Harris mentions it later, but without having to overdub dialogue.

I like the shot of Harris skipping--could you, instead of the music, loop in the dialogue from Zell: "It looks too desperate if you run to a meeting," which may explain why he is skipping?

What is the "skating argument"? (I'm not sure I have that in the screenplay and have to wait for Christmas to get the new DVD, thanks wifey!)
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#261117
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/261117/action/topic#261117
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The first is the big intro of the character and it's 5+ minutes. I know it goes in right after Harris is fired for pre-taping the weather. (I just cut that in this evening.)
Right, after he smashes Morris's head into the wall.

The other 2 are a bit harder to figure. One is just Zell and a bunch of others skipping (like 7 seconds).

This is part of a longer montage during Sara's commentary on LA, where she says "Some say LA's a place for the brain dead. . ." It's supposed to come after Ariel and June subathing, SanDeE* in class, and Frank waiting for Trudi.

The other has Zell rocketing in while Harris is getting the morning paper, he talks some jibberish and rockets off.

This comes toward the end, right after the line that ends "a kiss may not be the truth, but it's what we wish were true." The dialogue is as inane as you think:

HARRY ZELL: Goddamn it! I'm working on a deal, this guy wants fifty percent of the overseas. I tell him I can't give him fifty percent of the overseas, I'll look like an idiot.
SIGN: Uh huh. [Zell's car phone rings. He answers it and listens for a moment.]
ZELL: Hello? Dammit! [to sign] I'll come back tomorrow night at five, or else it'll be after eight [he flies off as Harris and Sara pull up to the sign]

I hope the extended freeway sign scene has one of my favorite cut exchanges:

Harris: It's all over. It's all over. YOU got me into this!
Sign: It was the least I could do.
Harris: What do you mean by that?
Sign: At least you are not indifferent.
Harris: It's true, it's true. I am feeling something.

But I'm guessing it will be the sign asking Harris to check out another sign.

Anyway, if you want more script-related specifics, let me know. I am really looking forward to this! Thanks for all the hard work (and then some, since it will be more than expected!).
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#260655
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260655/action/topic#260655
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Okay, I have the DVD and am not finding a Director Commentary. There's the Easter Egg on the main menu (highlight the exhaust pipes of the car and hit enter) that gets you a minute long summary of the film by Jackson, but that seems to be it. Several reviews mention the lack of said commentary, so I am guessing it's not you. I must have been thinking of the making-of-featurette.

PS: Do you intend to put the Easter Egg clips into the fan edit?
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#260610
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L. A. Story - The Extended Zell Edition (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/260610/action/topic#260610
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Originally posted by: Doctor M


There are some really funny deleted moments though if you haven't seen them, including a Kazoo Church and John Lithgow singing "I F*#$ for a living".
I'm also trying to pull a couple deleted scenes that are in the trailers but not in the extras (including 'A walk in L.A.')

So in the end there will be 4-6-ish extra scenes. Not nearly the mountain I expected, and some are still on the fence. I always question when editors say they left out this or that deleted scene because I want it all. But now I know, sometimes, they're cut originally because they really aren't that good, or don't belong in the context of the film.


Doc, do you have the script for LA Story? It's published with the script for Roxanne, and my recollection is that it has the Zell scenes, the walk in LA scene, and maybe one or two others, but I believe that it does NOT have the boxer scenes. That might give you a guide in the re-editing process.

I brought my DVD to work to check the director's commentary, but left it in my office and am doing this during a meeting. Will have to check later, but I am pretty sure there is in fact a director's commentary on it.

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#257971
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Info Wanted: Harry Potter & Prisoner of Azkaban - extended version on ABC?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/257971/action/topic#257971
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Originally posted by: Darth Richard
I hope so, because that was one of the few things that really bugged me about the film. And that bloody ending grrrrr haha.
I was just thinking, it is going to be Pan and Scanned, because POA wasn't filmed on Super 35 from what I understand. NOOO!!!!!!!


I see no reason why they can't have someone come in and finish the effects for the deleted scenes, and no reason why Cuaron has to be the one to re-edit it. What happened with the Python broadcasts was the exception, not the rule: Movies often have additional footage added in for television, and it's rarely the director who does it.

So I'm hopeful that this could be pretty cool.

And I hope someone can capture and upload or torrent or PiF.

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#257842
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Info Wanted: Harry Potter & Prisoner of Azkaban - extended version on ABC?
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/257842/action/topic#257842
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Originally posted by: klokwerk
I think he was contrasting Chris Columbus' shooting method to Alfonso Cuarón's. That is to say: Columbus shot 'everything in sight' meaning there was lots of deleted footage, whereas Cuaron didn't shoot as much extraneous stuff and so there isn't as much deleted footage.


Yeah, what he said, although I definitely like Cuaron's style more than Columbus, particularly for Azkaban, which was intended to be darker. I'm wondering if the ABC edit will be re-edited by Cuaron himself (as with the Columbus films), or if someone else will do it. I have a hard time imagining him going back into it.
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#254028
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Emmet Otter's Jugband Christmas (Complete) - (Released)
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https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/254028/action/topic#254028
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Good news and bad.

Good: I definitely have version 1, and I think it is complete (commercials cut, but the logos superimposed over the title card screen are still there). Quality, for something recorded so many years ago, is pretty good.

Bad: I can't find my DVD transfer. I only have an AVI file (around 400 megs). I tore apart my apartment and even went into my storage facility (my wife is not thrilled). No sign of it anywhere (neither am I). I could try transferring it again, but that can't happen until after Christmas (the VHS is at my parents' house--even then, since I won't have my computer, it would probably be a crappy transfer).

So I can try uploading the AVI file somewhere if people are interested in that. I'm sorry I can't be of more help.