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Just got out of the BTTF 35mm showing. Story time --->

The show started off with an air guitar contest tuned to the scene where Marty plays at the dance and the winner received a pair of purple Calvin Klein underwear. We all had scratch and sniff cards to go along with the movie as well as glow sticks for the flux capacitor scenes and replica reprints of the "Save the clocktower" newspapers to wave around during those scenes. The scratch cards were very cool... whenever there was fire, hay, or manure you could smell it and the whole theater wreaked of it.

The print itself looked gorgeous for its age with very little wear and tear. I was blown away that it was preserved that well. I spoke with a friend who was hosting it and he did confirm that it was rented from Universal Studios. If I could describe it... it was like the DCP but every shade of color was noticeably darker in tone. I noticed in the opening scene when the toast pops out that it was pretty much all black with almost no brown to be seen. The scene where Doc demonstrates the time machine was synchronized to pyrotechnics that fired in the front of the auditorium when the flame streaks appeared. That alone was probably worth the ticket price.

Suddenly during the reel change before Marty goes to school in 1955 for the first time the movie cuts to the last reel where Doc and Marty are getting ready to drive the Delorean 88 in the storm and the movie is upside down and playing backwards. The crowd got a kick out of it and laughed it off but a few of us knew the projectionist was in a very dark place. We knew there was no way that reel change was getting fixed any time soon and feared the worst. 10 minutes passed and the Blu Ray comes on. The projectionist managed to save the day... the color change was definitely noticeable but I must say that on a screen that size the BD still looked great! I jokingly told my friends that they could've played the old VHS and it still would've been good. BTTF is a perfect movie that doesn't suffer to any format.

Anyways it was a great night after all and I'm glad I got to see at least half the film in 35mm even though that was a bummer. Up next I'll be seeing Jaws 40th anniversary in the water during a special inflatable screen showing followed by Conan later this month.

edit: when the film ended there was no "To be continued" scene before the credits... the Deloran flew at the audience and cut immediately to credits but it was not the 35mm print playing because of the mishap that occurred an hour in to the film. To my understanding the Blurays have the TBC credit don't they? How did that not show up?

Getting ready to see this tomorrow evening...very excited!

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^ Very insightful. Thank you!

I'm watching the bluray of 2001 at the moment and wanted to add that the scene where Dave and his colleague go to replace the "alpha echo 35 unit" that HAL states is failing Dave is walking through a tunnel very briefly. This happens around 1:12:15 in to the movie and the whites were obviously yellow in the film print whereas in the bluray they are more of a white and grey tone.

I am noticing very many color timing deficiencies between the film and bluray where the film is much darker, more yellow, and the bluray is much more neutral and dull.

The scene where Dr. Floyd is flying towards the base on the moon... the rocks were definitely more brown but the tone was so dark on the rocks that you could barely make it out. I may be new to this game but film definitely seems to be much darker in general and the colors are more saturated and maybe a bit too much at times.

Any chance the 1080p HDTV theatrical cut gets hosted elsewhere?

Oh boy I wish I had paid closer attention and took more notes during that scene. I'm sorry but I don't totally recall. I do remember though that when Arnold is scanning and you see his POV parameters that they are cut off on the sides of the frame whereas it seems in the remastered editions you see more.

Very sad to hear this. I would use the Apollo 13 DTS DVD as an audio demonstration for friends years ago. Here's pouring one for the sweet prince...

https://youtu.be/HLxNnas0Dck

I'm in Texas. I usually catch showings in Austin and San Antonio because the Alamo Drafthouse plays classic and cult classics very often and a lot of times they are original film prints. The theaters are run by very enthusiastic film junkies who really appreciate the lost art of film. Whenever something plays in original 35 or 70mm I go out of my way to see it.

Since this will be an original print it should not have the "To be continued--->" logo at the end, correct? Does the original say anything at all or does it say "The End"?

I do have the DCP that is avaiable on the special site. Is that a good reference for color timing?

Sure thing. I'm sure a print will show up for sale online eventually and an ultimate fan restoration can then be made. I will be seeing 2001 again on June 30 in theater but I don't think it will be a film print rather the bluray projected on a big screen but I will inquire and find out.

FYI, I'll be seeing Back to the Future 1 in original 35mm on July 5. Don't mean to derail the thread but wanted to get some exposure out there in case anyone wants me to take note of anything.

Heads up, I'll be seeing Part 1 in original 35mm on July 5 during a special dinner event. Let me know if there is anything you want me to take note of.

Sorry I did not catch the scene with the peas when Floyd was eating. I don't recall the colors.

The breathing and spaceship sounds came from all speakers. The thing is, I'm not sure if the projectionist had the audio set to some kind of surround emulator similar to what Dolby Pro Logic does in order to get the audio to come out of all speakers but I was sitting right by the rear wall on a balcony level right by some of the surround speakers and heard the breathing coming from there.

Also, when the astronauts attempt to take a picture with the monolith the sound that it emits was deafeningly loud. Everyone in the theater tried to cover their ears after enduring a few seconds of it. It was pretty cool!

Another detail I noticed is that whenever you see the HAL computer he has a greyish hue around him but on the film it was definitely more of a brown than it was grey. Now whether that is due to film color degradation I wouldn't know for sure.

I am watching the bluray right now and noticed the MGM logo has a yellow tone to it. In the theater is was clearly white against a blue background.

Beber: I stand corrected. Your link is dead but luckily I still had the image on my phone and just referenced it. You are correct... the 35mm print I saw had much more yellow to it and was not as orange as this:

I apologize for the confusion.

This is playing again one last time tonight if anyone is local and wants to check it out:

http://drafthouse.com/movies/terminator_2_judgment_day//austin

This is playing again Monday and Tuesday if anyone is local and wants to check it out!

http://drafthouse.com/movies/2001-a-space-odyssey/austin

Here are some more notes on the movie. I wrote them down in the dark so please excuse my writing.

Notes: When the biker tells Arnold he can't let him leave with the man's wheels he fires his shotgun beforehand and the bass was super loud. I hadn't noticed it being that loud before. Also, when Arnold opens the doors to the mall and is holding the flowers the sound of the doors opening also had very deep bass that I hadn't noticed before. A small detail for such loud bass but it was definitely there. When Arnold first walks in to the bar I noticed during the first few frames you see his front that you could just barely see the shorts he was wearing. It happened very quickly. In the hospital scenes with Sarah there was plenty of teal to be seen. When John and Miles take the endoskeleton arm from Cyberdyne there is a lot of purple tone throughout.

The audio definitely seemed like it was stereo and not surround sound. The dialogue and music seemed very quiet in comparison to the sound effects.

I didn't realize the white/blue MGM logo has always been there. I guess I never paid close attention before.

PDB: I did take notes on that particular scene. When the room first appeared it was definitely white with tones of blue but then when Dave walks in to the next room where he sees himself eating there are tones of green. Here are some pictures. My notes are there too written on some food order cards. Please excuse them as I tried my best to write in the dark of the theater and couldn't see too well at times.

More notes: When COMPUTER MALFUNCTION sounded it came through all speakers. Whenever scenes were outside the space ship HAL's voice came out only through the front channels but inside the space ship it came out of all channels.

Also, there were 2 projectionists. The one I spoke with was Josh. He was very nice and answered all my questions. You can probably inquire about the print by contacting the theater directly:

Alamo Drafthouse - Ritz

320 E. 6th St. Austin, TX 78701

(512) 861-7020

Yes, that looks pretty spot on to me. The film was pretty dark in general with teal overlayed. I will pop in some of the first T2 DVDs to see if they reflect the 35mm print at all. I have PIBF-1001 and also the R1 Image DVD to reference and I remember checking out some scenes a while back and they looked very "not remastered" if that makes any sense. While the remastered discs do look great I would much prefer the look of the original 35mm. There is something very old school about it that adds to the effect of the whole experience.

Here's my ticket for proof:

If anyone has any further inquiries it may be worth it to contact the theater directly and find out some more information.

Alamo Drafthouse - South Lamar

1120 S. Lamar Blvd., Austin, TX 78704

What a great experience. This movie is simply breathtaking on the big screen. I will be happy to answer any questions. I've got some pictures to post too of the event. The projectionists were nice enough to let me in to their area to take pictures of the reels and setup. I am still in awe of this movie even though I've seen it so many times. I've had Gayane Ballet Suite on repeat for a while now.

Post 17 looks exactly like what I saw today.

Beber: Your screenshot looks exactly what I saw on the 35mm print today when Sarah and John were climbing in the steel factory. This was shown at the S. Lamar location Alamo Drafthouse in Austin, Texas. It was awesome to see!

The film had a noticeable teal tint to it throughout. I took some notes to compare to the home format editions so I will do some viewings and report back.

All the pictures from post 90 seem accurate so far

Intermissions now

Notes: HAL's voice comes out of all speakers. The moon is brown. The scene where Floyd sits in the res chairs there is a noticeable tint of yellow on all of the whites in the room. The chairs are a darker red with a touch of purple. I'll try to find a reference picture later. The beginning with the apes had a lot of saturated red to it. The movie started with an original MGM logo in white against a blue background and an image of a lion within a circle. I had never seen that logo before. There was an overture before everything.

In theater now. Projectionist says it's an old mag print.

I'll be seeing this tomorrow in original 35mm. Is there anything anyone wants me to pay close attention to as far as sound or color timing? I'll have a notepad to take notes throughout the film.