Oh Jesus, it didn’t even register when I typed it.
It’s not actually even the “it sucks” stuff that’s getting to me (that’s easy enough to ignore), it’s the “civil discourse”. No matter what the topic, it somehow always ends up with people grappling about their feelings RE: TLJ.
What I see happening time and again is that some troll will jump into a conversation related to but not strictly “about” some element of TLJ and offer up a glib blanket criticism of the entire film. Then some well-meaning but misguided dope will attempt to engage with the troll and post a rebuttal. Then the folks who’re negative on the film but aren’t generally trolls about it see this as an invitation to pile on their own grievances, and the whole thing spins into the same tired TLJ debate for pages and pages before getting back on track (if it ever does). If this is helpful to you, fine, more power to you. But I finished processing the movie a while ago and it’s just tedious as all hell to see everything inevitably getting sucked down that path and I frankly don’t need it.
This isn’t only a criticism of this place either, I’ve stepped back from Star Wars stuff on Twitter and elsewhere too. Talking about Star Wars on the Internet feels like a chore across the board, and I’m sure that has at least as much to do with me as it does the discourse. I know I’ll be happy to jump back in when we’re done battling for the soul of this thing, but until then I know where I stand and hanging around watching everyone else sort out and re-sort out their own feelings ad infinitum feels frustrating and unproductive to me, and ultimately just isn’t at all fun or interesting.
I never actually intended to go away, but I haven’t really posted in a few weeks now because in the time since The Last Jedi came out I’ve grown to find the sorts of discussions that take place here exhausting. I’m not at all tired with Star Wars itself, I’m just tired of having to be a fucking lawyer about it. Call me when you guys want to speculate and theorize about stuff without re-litigating whether or not TLJ worked every six posts.
Any new developments as far as 2.5 is concerned? Thread’s been pretty quiet.
Hereditary. It fucking ruled. Exactly my kind of contemporary horror flick.
Will there ever be a point when these Disney-haters are truly happy?
Oh sure, 15 years from now when there’s a new thing to dump on and no one can be bothered to remember how loud they were about these. See: the PT.
It also would’ve been a perfect time to recanonize Prince Xizor.
Just saw it again at a different theater, and evidently the projection at the other place was iffier than I realized because I was floored by how much better everything looked tonight.
RE: Maul, I didn’t have as much of a problem with it the second time. His reasons for being there are messy and convoluted, but enough people I know in the real world still feel pretty passionately that killing Maul off to early was one of the biggest missteps of the PT, so I guess getting him back in the (big screen) mix has the potential to be fun. I found the stuff Filoni did with the character engaging and interesting; I just find his survival itself preposterous. I guess I’ve got more incentive now than ever to get over that and just have fun with it. It’s definitely not a hill I’m willing to die on, so eh, what the hell.
Came across this article the other day about the old Star Wars CCG game from the 90s, which I collected avidly as a kid and recently have been trying to get into playing with a couple friends. Link: https://www.theringer.com/2018/5/21/17374528/star-wars-customizable-card-game-player-community
Anyway, the reason I’m sharing it here is this paragraph:
Holland helped them do that by purchasing an original print of Star Wars and an expensive editing machine that (Braunlich recalls) carried a $50,000 price tag. Decipher imported the equipment from Hollywood to its headquarters in Norfolk, Virginia, and used the machine to capture high-quality images for use on the cards. “That was one of the reasons I always thought it was such a successful game—because the cards were just awesome,” Braunlich says. “Sometimes an image that’s fleeting in the movie, just in the background, we’d want to make a card out of it. And the artists there would do computer magic, and the players really loved that.”
Now, I know from experience that the printing process was unreliable enough that sometimes copies of the same card would look a little different, so the cards themselves probably aren’t worth much as a color reference for projects here, but this was a fun new fact to me that I thought was worth passing along. Honestly, I think a lot of my own personal ideas of what the “right” colors are for Star Wars are based on these cards.
Solo gets an A- on CinemaScore, which sounds pretty good but I guess it’s the lowest grade they’ve ever given a Star Wars film? (I don’t think I understand CinemaScore)
Yeah they really ought to have done a lot more with Val. Kind of a waste of a Thandie Newton performance. It’s going to be cool to have Enfys in the mix moving forward, though.
How is “slavery is wrong” a controversial position for a character to take?
I’m currently working my way through the Jurassic Park 4k set. The original film looks stunning. The second one looks pretty good too. There’s a massive drop off in quality with the third one though, it looks worse than a lot of 1080p blu-rays I’ve seen. Haven’t watched Jurassic World yet, but it’s a recent enough movie that I’d assume it’s original master would yield a fine UHD disc.
Has anybody besides Mala said that they liked TLJ and hated Solo? I’m only seeing “liked both”, “hated TLJ but liked Solo”, and “hate everything, why am I even still here”.
I’m of the opinion Lobot was at Cloud City before Lando won it.
Not canonically, they’re already buddies in the Lando comic miniseries.
Of course I liked the droid. I adored Phoebe Waller-Bridge on Fleabag and the idea of a droid revolutionary is an interesting angle that we haven’t seen.
That said, I’d rather have a Lando movie set later and have him with Lobot.
A No Country For Old Men thing could be fun, where a younger bounty hunter starts impersonating Boba Fett unaware that he survived the Sarlaac and the real Fett eventually hunts him down.
Also, L3 is the best character and whether you were happy or sad to see her go is my new litmus test for whether we’re going to get along.
I believe the Han/Fett rivalry was set up in the (no longer canon) Han Solo Trilogy by A. C. Crispin. I don’t hate the idea of bringing that back, but you’re definitely correct to say it currently has no basis in canon material.
Anyway, I’d like to see the “Boba Fett movie” actually turn out to be something like The Good, The Bad, & The Ugly, where he’s a major player but not the sole focus. There’d definitely be room for Alden’s Han and/or Donald’s Lando in something like that.
The beach planet was Savareen. The forest planet wasn’t named in the film, but I’ve seen it suggested that it might be Batuu, the planet where the upcoming Disney park is set.
Tag & Bink in the visual guide. Looks like they were definitely officers and must have been cut.
I don’t understand the problem with teasing Jabba at the end. They clearly want to do a sequel, and we all know he’s got to start working for Jabba sometime, so why not plant that seed here? It felt to me like the joker card at the end of Batman Begins.
The Soundtrack Show podcast is currently in the midst of a 6-part series on the first film’s score. It’s very in-depth and I can’t recommend it highly enough to anyone who likes to nerd out about the music.
I’m getting some strong James Horner Star Trek vibes whenever Powell drops a slowed down Rebel fanfare, particularly in “L3 and the Millennium Falcon”.
Also, I really enjoy the swoony old Hollywood thing that “Lando’s Closet” has going on.