I do like this compromise route Hal. It does add back to the movie something that had a feeling of “something is missing.”
I like the direction you are going!
Understandable as others have mentioned, it may not be a “great” scene or section, but it doesn’t cause problems or any cringy moments to me.
Sorry I gotta ask, how does it improve the banter between the trio when you remove the banter?
The scene removes the first two lines and just have Obi Wan look up and say the line? I don’t get it personally.
I had a free night last night, so I went on my Exercise Bike and watched COD v.6.
One word to sum it up: WOW.
It is a big improvement on V5. COD for me has been a big improvement on TPM, there is no doubt on that. In comparison to Hal’s trilogy, it was the weaker of them since it seems things were trimmed a bit too much. But with V6, it helps return some scenes and moments but still giving them the “proper” trim.
Also, reinventing the Pod Race scene back to its former glory. (With the added Subulba Vent Scene was nice.)
You added back some of the humor with Jar Jar but made sure it didn’t go too far. Nicely done.
Also what stuck out too was adding a few of Anakin’s lines in the space battle was a nice addition too.
Hal, amazing work and I look forward to your updates on the other movies as well.
Rogue One attempted to fix this continuity error by giving ponda a similar arm to the severed one shown in the Jedha scene.
Ady, I wonder if thats a change worth implementing in ANHR:HD? To change ponda’s hands BEFORE the arm is severed to match as opposed to changing the arm on the ground.
Would provide better continuity with Rogue One as well.
I’d rather cut the cameo out of Rogue One myself.
Agreed. Ady’s approach is the best approach in my opinion logically on what happens during that scene anyway.
That is an interesting thought, I wonder though if it makes it a “harder” sell that the group gets a ship to leave without any piece of the chase. As your edit stands, they go down the pipe and later you see them in a ship. One can conclude they used the “sewer” to get out and get DJ’s “borrowed” ship.
If I recall correctly, it is just Finn and Rose at the stables … so by having the chase cut how can it be explained or even assumed in a some what natural sense they meet up with BB8 and DJ.
Again not trying too shoot things down so quickly since I am too thinking out loud regarding it. I do understand having those moments may help motivate Finn a bit more and naturally before he makes his full dedication to the cause.
Wow that was fast, I wasn’t expecting it!
Will either the files or the folder indicate its version 6?
I apologize if some of my posts have been terse lately. Most of the time, the reality is that I only have one free hand to punch keys with. I appreciate the fervent discussion very much, because it makes for the best possible, most informed final product. I am also tossing around the droid factory in my head, but have no intention at all to reinstate the garage scene.
That’s alright. We all think your Star Wars work is fantastic and are contributing to help you make new versions/edits.
On a side note, if you were to include the garage scene, there is something that could be done that I believe only seciors has done. That is to put the scene in a different spot.
ATTACK OF THE CLONES:
[Anakin Brings Shmi Back]>[Garage Scene]>[Shmi’s Funeral]SECIORS (ARMY OF THE REPUBLIC):
[Anakin Brings Shmi Back]>[Shmi’s Funeral]>[Garage Scene]
Haha, but seriously, I am glad Hal is going the direction of not reverting back to the garage scene in anyway.
Hal, we all understand and no problem, we all give different perspectives to help give you some ideas on your V6.
SomethingStarWarsRelated said:
How about:
Padme: “…as a member of the senate, maybe I can find a diplomatic solution to this mess.”
WIP PAN
Anakin and Padme handcuffed in the chariot.
😉
You know, if something this can be executed well, I’d be all for it!
Hahahah, that is pretty amusing and would be curious to see.
But please, the garage scene is completely unnecessary and goes against Anakin’s adjusted character through Hal’s edit. Watched the movies (minus LOE since ran out of time) and the wife said Anakin is such a whiney character and appreciated how it was toned down in TAS.
The droid factory scene that was edited is a big improvement from the original scene. I am going back and forth in my mind what would be better, that or the deleted scene … both have their pros and cons. However, the above suggestion would be interesting to see too.
Please no Greedo scene. It’s one of the few things I really don’t care for in l8wrtr’s edit. Honestly, all of the Episode I deleted footage looks pretty rough from a quality standpoint. The only scene I would include is Qui-Gon and Anakin discovering the probe Droid.
I agree with your comments, it is really too bad the deleted scenes were no in 1080 and polished up a bit. The Probe Droid scene does fit the narrative well since it shows why the two were running towards the ship for kind of no reason.
But yes, please, no Greedo scene!
Personally a no for me. Since one, the scene doesn’t really serve any purpose but a “Oh hey its Greedo!” and two, importantly it is another example of trying to shrink the Star Wars Galaxy. All these silly cameos and connections just make the whole narrative small when we are talking about countless galaxies, planets, etc.
For reference, here are l8wrtr’s takes on the droid factory and garage scenes (I think of the edit’s I’ve seen, his were most successful in editing down these scenes):
droid factory: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1L3RMhiG8debz1CUCKgM0gYHrHrN0MUME
garage: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1pHLbsJiDweog5gohQGNZTS5ZIuVI4FvXPersonally, I would vote to add the droid factory but keep the garage scene out.
Thanks for sending those, I see what he did with the droid factory scene. Hmmm, works much better than the original cut Lucas had. Not saying it has to be there, but, I admit it works pretty well.
The garage scene was edited well. But, what I appreciate on not having any of it is Anakin in the official movies is just to whiny and cringy. Granted, that moment is understandable since his mother died and all, and his conflicted conscience on his actions … but, the portrayal in Hal’s edits is a bit of a more likable character and not so whiny, cringy, and plain un-likeable. My opinion anyway.
Haha, you must hate sand too. I hear it gets everywhere.
It sounds like it makes sense to reinsert the chosen one stuff then since that theme of balance is pretty over in the ST, which was the point of the chosen one prophecy.
That seems like an eloquent solution.
Keep that garage scene out. Simple. 😉
As for the droid factory scene mentioned again, just watched it on youtube and I don’t see a way to even trim it to “make it work” it a believable and seamless way. Even if you took out all the 3PO moments, you have some brief shots of R2 at the door by himself that shows no path way or bridge from it … then he somehow gets to the controls later?
It’s too much of a mess. I do know what you mean about the transition with the inserted deleted scene with the “negotiation” scene. Not a strong scene, but it’s the only option.
When it comes to the whole chosen one/prophecy thing, what’s tough is its the central thing about the prequel movies with Anakin. Unfortunately, because of Phantom Menace that is why Anakin is taken as a young boy found by a Master Jedi since “he has no father” and the “Force is unusually strong with him.” So because of the first movie, you have to have it, Anakin is already on a pedestal, unfortunately, the original movies didn’t really touch on that at all since, well, it wasn’t needed.
The real question is if Rise of Skywalker will touch on this to kind of complete the topic/story behind the Skywalkers, starting with Anakin. If it does not, then the whole prophecy/chosen one is not needed. But again, it is tough to completely remove because of the first movie. It is strange in a way without it since it was kind of a big deal in the first prequel movie. I don’t think there is a clean way to completely remove that topic.
So I know this will be an unpopular suggestion, but have you given any consideration to bringing back the Dex’s Diner scene with trims similar to what Cathy Fulcher-Baker did for her edit? clip: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtBAiWYWR6w&t=10m26s
The reason I ask is that I think this would allow you to include the scene from the theatrical cut where Mace, Yoda and Obi-Wan discuss Anakin, rather than the alternate “deleted scene” version with only Mace and Obi-Wan as you do now. While it may be slightly stronger dramatically, I think the visual effects in that deleted scene stand out as particularly unpolished. Additionally, Mace’s line that Obi-Wan “must have faith” in Anakin seems dissonant with his character in Revenge of the Sith, who clearly doesn’t trust him.
That is trimmed very well. It works on good multiple levels. One, it gives a destination for Kamino. Since the records of Kamino are “missing” in the Jedi archive scene, it would be pretty impossible to find a single planet in a single galaxy when there are 100s, if not 1000s in the Republic, let alone the unknown regions which makes up even a bigger chunk! It’s like finding a needle in many, many, many haystacks. And in the current edit, Obi Wan finds it pretty easily in one shot. Heck, look at The Force Awakens … there is a map that leads to Luke that is missing about 15-20% of it which makes it impossible to find him without the missing piece!
Also, I will say despite the Mace and Obi Wan scene contextually a better scene, it is visually distracting since it is both incomplete and is in a lower resolution. Again, I like the dialogue much better, but it is a bit distracting visually.
So with this edited scene, it removes the silly-ness but keeps the important information.
With that, do keep out the Yoda and kids scene as well as the droid factory scene that has been mentioned. The is too silly and introduces abilities R2 does not show in the original movies. It was very goofy when I first saw it and kept thinking “How the Heck is R2 flying around but dines’t do that in the OT? There were several opportunities that would have been super helpful!!”
It’s a tough balance of trying to edit movies to either help pacing, polish some issues, remove the bad … but at the same time not removing either the grand feeling of the movie nor some of the “what we are used to” to make something not feel right. Keep it up Hal!
Do what ya gotta do weirdo 😉.
The force is strong with this one. 😉
There are some gems in TPM, by tweaking it, trimming it, it helps polish the good and remove the bad!
As a newish topic, if you were to have “two” versions available of the opening crawl, one with COD and the other with TPM, my mind was thinking on the way you’ve approached the new trilogy’s title. The Force Awakens -Restructure and The Last Jedi - Legendary. What word/idea goes well with this edit?
For the above post, that reminds me of an idea regarding the “wrench.”
From the scene at the duration from 46 - 48 with the pod running, couldn’t putting an object on the ground below it be the wrench showing it fell through the vents onto the ground? That seems the simplest way to connect the dots.
Watched the video and you can really see the difference in color and can see the blue tint! Thanks for fixing the hologram color!