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#1436920
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hmmm, I get both sides of it and will say, this is already an improvement than what the original movie did. I don’t necessarily disagree with Neerb’s take that Palps last line to her isn’t a straight up “personally speaking” by saying it broadly as “a scavenger girl …” as opposed to him saying it like “your just a scavenger girl …”

Although not sure if it is possible or doable to do a lip sync or whatever to change her first sound to “no” (The first kinda grunty “I’m”) which then goes to her “I’m a jedi.” So that way it is more of a response to Palps labeling her as “just a scavenger girl” then just a statement that isn’t 100% connected with the exchange.

Again, it is already much better than what’s there, but I can see if it is possible to do that, it could help it? Maybe?

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#1436861
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

Cap is still helping me track down some more instances of Rey saying “I am” to help smooth over that transition (thank you, Cap!!); but in the meantime, I wanted to get back into the scene after stepping away from it for a bit. If it’s not 100% yet, that’s fine - hopefully we’ll be able to use some of the new clips - but for now, I have it with Sade’s Palpy dialogue rearrangement, the added Rey pant as before, and a new cut of “am a Jedi.” The big thing I’m curious about for this test: I also tweaked the video somewhat to see if I could fudge the lip sync at all, so I’d love feedback on that!

https://streamable.com/l4ugyw

For me, it’s looking/sounding good to me.

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#1436629
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Personally, the Babu “joke” has always been a “meh” so I wouldn’t really miss it. And as Hal pointed out … with the removal of him at the battle of the end … there’s no real payoff or anything else with that character.

Sidenote,

I mean, I understand if not much can really be done with the whole DSII, Jannah, etc. scene to be done in a seamless way (Although I will root/support it and even if Sherlock or someone can come up with a “final draft” of the idea that isn’t for this edit, I’d put it in regardless for my own.) It’s still strange, Babu, part of a crew that only helps/works for one another would send out some broadcast be like “Oh hey, there are some people working against the First Order, so if you are First Order, please don’t listen to this. Anyway, they are going to this exact spot, made up of a small crew, so anyone who happens to be in the area, please treat them nicely. This is a one time “nice” thing we are doing, since well, you know, we only do things for those part of the crew. But we are in a good mood. Anyway, again, if you are First Order or anyone on their side, please disregard.”

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#1436234
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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@sherlock I agree about the point not saying anything specific about communications since … there is nothing in the movie that tells/shows that or any kinda resolution to it IF that was an issue. Changing Attacking to Silencing hits it just right.

With that in mind keeping it simple by just saying “Silencing threats/etc.” you can see this in action in the movie. During the festival on Desert Planet #4 we have FO troops patrolling. Why? On Kajimii we see FO forces knocking on doors and causing a rucks? Why?

It’s all about them “silencing” anyone, groups, or whatever from getting too big and strong or organized like or to the Resistance.

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#1436206
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Personally, I’d be a vote of simply removing Kylo wanting to take the throne and he simply tells Rey that “Together we can stop Palpatine.” (Or however it can go) That would be more on par with his motivation in this edit because Kylo doesn’t care about Sith (and the old things) and not outright saying kill Palps because of the reveal at the beginning. Not saying that isn’t what he is trying to figure out how to dispose of him, but it keeps the “logical problem” that both he and the audience knows that “Killing him isn’t simple due to that transfer thingy.”

Plus … wouldn’t it be an easier thing to convince Rey of “Lets stop the big bad guy” and not “Let straight up murder his face.” What would a Jedi-in-training be more convinced to with? (Not saying it outright wouldn’t work to “trick” the Jedi, but come on, what would be more successful?)

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#1436094
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Hal 9000 said:

I’m gonna be very picky about the crawl. I really like what we have already, aside from adjusting that one word. I don’t envision a total rewrite, and do not wish to introduce Palpatine in the crawl. Watching these platonically with no knowledge of marketing, that’s just silly to me. Might as well open with “Fuck it, somehow Palpatine returned.”

I agree with that assessment, the crawl is fine just minus a word swap to help align better with the edit’s direction.

Lol, I would laugh at a crawl spoof edit that just contains that sentence. But has the same speed and timing of SW crawls. Lol.

Also side note about Kylo’s motivation, removing him wanting the throne to be simply “let’s stop palpatine” just helps clean things up, motivation wise without “Well, Kylo didn’t give a rat’s behind about Sith stuff … now he cares all of the sudden and Palps is just a Snoke replacement … or was Snoke a replacement for Palps? Meh, whatever. He’s just an underling again.” Hahah.

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#1436080
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I wouldn’t be specific on the crawl if there is a revision (but changing it to silencing from destroying is vague enough) to blatantly talk about communication issues since … nothing is stated in the movie nor any resolve to “fix” that issue … since it isn’t there. I’d take the simple route, but still vote removing Poe’s line about giving up since it doesn’t work with this edit’s direction.

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#1436047
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Master Lawdog said:

What about giving her Sith yellow eyes when she flares at herself?

Who was it that was skilled at EBsynth? That’s the program that person was using to modify the eyes like that.

I suppose I could look into the program myself. Hopefully it isn’t too hard to understand.

I hope you can, the Sith eye replacement would be soooo great.

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#1435964
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
Time

As for the dialogue, it is strange “now” that with Ascendant having the “flames of rebellion” in the crawl (also depending if the simple graffiti and background riot noise) that Poe says "everyone’s given up. The rest of his thought is fine, but the last part doesn’t really fit now. I mean, he may think “it is over” since no one is “joining up with the resistance,” but the crawl is already saying “people are doing stuff.” Maybe even removing that line can help with that? I mean, he should have at least the minimalist of information that people are starting to rise up … that’s the opposite of people giving up.

Again, the conversation is already not the greatest so I dunno if anything can be altered … maybe just:

“I can’t walk out on this war. Not 'til it’s over. Maybe it is.”

So then Zorii responds to just him thinking it’s over? Dunno how that would work.

Dunno, I admit I don’t have a good answer due to the new direction of Ascendant. (Which I like BTW)

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#1435937
Topic
The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Kinda on topic, would it help to make the graffiti stuff someone subtle? I wonder that so the impact of the fleet and the “for skywalker” shouts at the end be the lead up to that paying off, and not being partially revealed. So somewhat vague/subtle “random” graffiti and however to make the “background action” more of a riot then an all out “rebellion/battle” … it may plant the seeds some more and not mess up too much on this Poe and Zorii dialogue. If it comes off across as “Full on rebellion on this battle, people literally are fighting against the FO” and Poes thinks “Well, no one is doing anything” … despite what’s going on around him.

Not sure how to convey it being a riot, but I am thinking if there is to be graffiti or anything, it should be more more vague and subtle to convey it as a bit of a riot and uprising … which would explain why the FO troopers are walking around and knocking on door securing things … they are treating it like a riot and making a parameter and conveying the extent of the riot/uprising as opposed to a battle field … it probably would be conveyed better with however the dialogue with Poe, edited or not?

Not sure if that makes any sense. Lol.