Hey Adywan, I’ve been away for a long time and saw the latest sneak peaks. As usual, you are doing a wonderful job and of course look forward to future sneak peaks, if any. Thanks so much for your great work!
“Don’t think about it too much ~”
Only rational thing I can come up with in regards to this show, though the same with BOBF. I want to be excited for Mando 3 and Ashoka … but even lowering my expectations didn’t help. Sigh.
I’m tired of bad/lazy writing and deluting established characters to lift up the new. A good story writer would not have to do that to bring in the new. If needed.
True, the framing is the really similar. But it didn’t click at first but I agree with Ady, the shot is poorly lit. And not in a “it’s meant to be poorly lit” way.
It’s funny because I’ve been seeing other comments around the internet also talking about how cheap or unprofessional looking this show is tending to be. Like the 180 break or the weird looking shots on Mustafar, things we’ve already mentioned here.
Yeah … for me it’s really showing. It’s so odd to me since IMO the Mandolorian was/is/has/etc has been this breakthrough show from Disney/Lucusfilm and they kinda been like “well, this was popular and generally well received … let’s water down everything else.” I don’t get it.
I will do my best to wait for the whole thing to play out, but I have a feeling my worries prior to this will play out as expected … I’ve DEFINITELY made sure to lower my expectations afters BOBF … and it helps.
Ewan is good, little Leia is alright … she seems like such a small 10 year old, even my wife agreed she seemed so young! Hahah! But her character is fine for me. (Though the wood chase scene was pretty bad.). As a “sheltered” kid her untamed personality does make a bit of sense. And with this idea of “sheltered” kids, it does help make sense why Luke has no idea what a Jedi is as he grew up … since Owen literally freaked out he didn’t see Luke for like 5 seconds. That was a good call.
I am not a fan of all the inquisitors … I think its a mix of their look, acting and … direction? They seem kinda pointless and not what they are. Especially with Reva right now … I’ll wait till it plays out … but knowing the leaks I won’t be too keen on this. As for her knowing who Vader is, at first I was irritated, but my guess is we’ll see a flashback of Youngling Reva who probably saw a mix of Anakin, Obi Wan and Bail Organa to put these pieces together and why literally no one else is figuring things out. That will certainly help instead of it just being “Cuz she did” and “reasons.”
Grand Inquisitor is fine, the species have 2 stomachs so he’ll probably just be AFK for an episode, or whole, and it’s Vader turn to come out now.
It’s really, really important at the end Leia does not know that “Ben” is Obi Wan and that Luke does not interact with Obi OR see any lightsabers … time will tell… I Just don’t want Disney/Lucasfilm to keep disregarding Canon for “reasons”.
I’ve let this all stew for a bit and well … just … not an impressive show. It’s inconsistent any many ways and was a let down. This show was definitely slapped together with productions issues with season 3 for Mando.
I hate to say this … but this show is like the sequels in a way … mess around with an OG character (Boba) and forget the story/events before it (Mando Season 2 both point and finale … "I’ll give my life to protect him … Boba …)
It seems like, at the moment, Star Wars peaked with Mandolorian Season 1 and 2 since Bad Batch was a bit disappointing and this show was a mess.
I am fearful for Kenobi … I HAVE to lower my expectations for Kenobi for my sanity. (I hate being negative, I was so happy during the time of Mando season 1 and 2.)
Oh I hope this show is good … I have to admit I was a bit let down with Bad Batch and Boba (not saying they are bad/trash/etc. … just a bit let down.)
My mind is all over the place for this show. To sum it up, generally speaking, I am conflicted with this show. I am not about rumors, conspiracies, etc. … but I can see the show may have been a result of drama behind the scenes with Disney / Lucasfilm … this show feels thrown together due to Mandolorian Season 3 delay. Again, I don’t watch YouTube stuff/clickbait/etc. … I just wouldn’t be surprise if this was the case.
Although I do believe Dave/Jon are the hope for Star Wars … after Bad Batch and this show … Kenobi is a bit shaky for me.
Can I get a link sir? I love this show and would be very interested to see it in a movie format.
Although it would be interesting to see Omega in BOBF, it kinda seems a little premature since she was just introduced in BB and I think there will be another season? If this show has more than one season, i can see he popping up after a little more back story development in BB.
(Also hoping for an improvement on BB since it was kinda overall lackluster? I didn’t build it up mentally but was still slightly disappointed.)
^^^ Bro I completely agree.
I too am not a fan of the sequels for the most part based on your comment. (DISCLAIMER: If you enjoy the movies in full, in part, etc. … that’s great and I am happy for you and we all can enjoy and dislike whatever in a civil way! I wish I could like them, but I can’t … but don’t let it diminish your joy!)
There were some good ideas in them, but the lack of direction as well as being a reboot of the OT … it basically meant what happened in the OT different matter since everything regressed back to it. The movies should have been a progression of the story from the OT … not a retelling.
Instead of the empire v rebels again … could have been an outside force/species/etc. coming from the unknown reason versus the New Republic. The PT was about losing freedom, the OT about winning it back, the ST could have been maintaining it … you know, learning lessons from both the PT and ST.
What could have been …
I wonder if it would be possible to reframe it from Boba going back for his armour to boba going to get revenge on the sarlacc,
Flies over the pit - shoots - boom - out.
Almost reusing some of the flyover scene shooting the bikers maybe?
This episode was definitely a step up from the last. I do appreciate the comment about Boba being too soft and Boba reassured us, and the audience, that is not the case. So I am hoping to see more of the “Ill Rule with Respect, but Don’t Cross Me” vibe. I think the “softness” many were not keen about was more about Boba focusing on a tribe, or group for power, and not just himself. Im ok with that.
Still not a fan of the CyberPunk style, especially the music, but it does tie in Fennec’s “repair.”
Although I can “rationalize” about Boba and Sarlacc in that his memory could have been fuzzy about his escape of the Sarlacc (Loss of memory from injury/dehydration/etc.) … it was strange he thought it must have been inside of the sarlacc. I think the writers wanted him to have a sort of “revenge” against the pitt … but still wasn’t logical even if he had zero memory of what happened. But whatever.
It’s easy to see Disney is removing the Slave1 name. Granted, in context it made sense for Fett to describe his ship to Fennec as a ship model as apposed to just Slave1 so she knows what they are looking for … but even then doesn’t matter since he could just point it out to her. “Fennec, let’s find my ship … (goes to hanger and points to the ship) … That’s it.”
I am personally not a supported of changing established things for the sake of agendas or making something a problem that wasn’t. (asides for Fett’s ship, I also look at the Rule of Two being changed for the sake of an No Plan movie/saga.)
HOWEVER, with Boba changing from a bounty hunter/rebirth/Diaymo, I can see him changing the ship to reflect his new persona/title/role/etc. I wouldn’t be surprised if after he defeats the Pykes or is in full control, he simply names it Daiymo1. That would at least have a story reason for it … though again, not a fan of changing things or trying to make something an issue that never was.
Hal 9000 said:
From the moment he is activated by BB-8, D-O just won’t shut up about 9/11 conspiracy theories.
Or better yet, Death Star Theories.
“Palpatine blew up the Death Star so he could blame Naboo to invade them for their Plasma!”
Of course Ady not only can do whatever he likes, but it’ll be impressive whatever he does concerning Boba since I am fine with his version of these movies being self contained. That’s a ok! I would agree with sade1212 that either it’s left alone or just trimmed a bit to make it less goofy. Let him fall in the Sarlacc … he’ll still be Schrodinger’s Boba Fett about surviving it or not. Lol.
I agree ZkinandBonez
Fans complain because Rey Skywalker was so strong with the force and didn’t need hardly any training at all, yet Boba Fett is learning as he goes, and everyone is mad at that.
This is new territory for him, he used to capture his prey and get paid for it, this is new to him.
Yes, it’s a slow start, but so was Dances with Wolves or Avatar.
I’ve liked everything so far, except the futuristic biker gang with their colorful bikes and cybernetics , they felt so out of place on Tatooine.
Boba Fett is earning their trust and their loyalty.
The Trandoshans will be next, he’ll be talking to them in the next episode, so that they join him in removing the Pyke Syndicate.
Since I don’t follow much on youtube/twitter/etc., but of course at least have heard how upset people are. Don’t get me wrong, I am fine with character development and Boba is doing something new and is building something other than just be a gun-slinging bounty hunter show. That I get and am ok with this direction. I like growth and character development.
I can understand that there does seem to be a bit of a discrepancy from what we saw in Mandolorian. I think probably the “hate” or “upset” mentality or whatever probably wouldn’t be as bad if our introduction of Boba wasn’t till we saw him right now and the angle we see him at and not the “Let’s get this done” as we first saw him on Mandolorian. Again, I am a ok development … it’s just been a little inconsistent with what we’ve seen before AND now with this episode, even more so. (Like sees a gang causing trouble and is like “Sure, lets work together!” … or how Boba walks in after “the crew” fight BK and fortunately forces him into the rancor pit and he walks in just wearing a rob?! Wouldn’t he be suited up and be ready for anything since he ALMOST GOT KILLED?!)
Anyway, I am still hopeful and have enjoyed the show and although I like main characters to grow AND he is trying to be something different … but it’s just a bit inconsistent and we need to see that although he is being something more … don’t go against Boba.
… lord that bike gang is rough though…
I was optimistic from the first episode, not the best but was entertaining and trying to set things up.
Second episode much more positive, liking it.
Third episode … yikes.
DISCLAIMER: Just my opinion, if you are happy with it, more power to ya! I am not saying the episode is trash or trying to be one of those guys you see on youtube or whatever over blow stuff … but I gotta admit I was a bit disappointed with this episode. Had some good, but was outweighed by the bad/meh.
Although I will still be optimistic about it, but I am fairly confused with Boba himself since there seems to be such a difference from Mandolorian Boba and now Book Boba. I am a ok with character growth and having Boba start “Low” to then put in the work to grow (You know, what we wanted Rey to do in Sequels) but they seem to be very different SPECIFICALLY from these two shows. I did not like the biker gang and their Vespas since it took me out of the show … not fitting at all. They MAY have worked on Coruscant, but instead they stuck out like they were on the wrong set on their way to a cyberpunk party.
Plus … thing were kinda wrapped up so quickly. Oh looks Black Coursant (have to keep the joke going) is here! This will be a cool fight … Done and gone. Oh, the twins are going to cause so much trouble for Boba! … Oh sorry, here’s a pet and we are going. The Tusken tribe flash back, they are developing a relationship with Boba … Killed off screen.
Granted, I am still optimistic about this show and will be there till the end. There’s stuff I like about it, especially the improvement from Episode 2, but this was a bummer of an episode.
So both episodes Rodriquez directed were the least enjoyable thus far … hmmmm.
More of a trimming … kind of a less is more decision. (I think? Been too long. Lol.)
The edit’s goal was to remove the “all” part for various reasons for this line, which is why it’s just “a/uh” instead.
Hal 9000 said:
3PO bolts upright, eyes red.
“This dagger is a pathway to the dark side of the Force. It’s weirder must surrender to their own inner darkness to allow it to lead the way to the Wayfinder… … Only this blade tells.”
Has the possible of that door being opened to explore in a theoretically V2.1 or V3 down the road?
Jar Jar Bricks said:
The thing about the vision in TFA is that it isn’t rapid fire imagery like TROS, it’s a fairly linear journey with Rey present throughout. That’s why audio additions are really the only change that worked there.
EDIT: It may have been mentioned before, but Exegol/Palp’s house could be added by retconning that rainy planet where Kylo is killing a bunch of randos with his Knights. It looks similar enough, you could just add Palp’s place in the distance instead of that temple place.
Interesting idea, but isn’t that vision scene based on events that occurred? Kylo didn’t know anything about Exegol and needed the McGuffin to get there in ROTS … and if he was there and we see Granpa Pal’s House in the background … wouldn’t he have explored it and unraveled that mystery a long time ago?
Though I like the idea of trying to tie things together to make it more cohesive, so brainstorming idea is always a good thing.
This … is so fascinating … I don’t dare go to Tick Tock but it would be really fascinating to play with this thing. LOL.
Holy cow I just came back around and saw this C3PO stuff that is both hilarious … but also is fantastic for editing purposes. The “sith” translation scene can totally be redone with new lines, add a filter to it (to kinda match what we saw in the movie if need be) and just wow. Also, if possible, could help some of the other areas on using some lines that were replaced with some in-game dialogue and whatnot if it’s needed … or to alter the lines slightly. All in all … Amazing feat!
Hal 9000 said:
That etching is really cool, but I don’t wish to strip it and use it myself, as it isn’t totally necessary.
And yeah… I gotta admit the dice scene is just this side of totally working, and I would like to avoid this feeling like a fan edit, even though that dice scene is hella cool.
Been awhile, but wanted to check in on things! I read a bit on the discussion about Nev’s excellent work at restoring scenes. My thought is the same as you Hal. Granted, the work Nev did is remarkable, but it’s really the shot of the scene that sticks out. The camera position looks more like a “behind the scenes” kinda shot or a documentary style that makes it feel “off” when it comes to implementing it. Again, great work and it has it’s merits, but it’s really the actual shot/camera positioning that doesn’t personally jive for me.
I’d agree with an alternate track minus Knights voices. Respect for the work, but just doesn’t jive for me as well.
Hal 9000 said:
Let me temper things by saying that due to a couple things it will likely be released after 12/20, but should still roughly coincide with the anniversary in principle, if not technically. At least there’s no Episode 10 to get it out before!
Episode X: The Search For More Money
Episode XI: Finding a Plan
Episode XII: The Return of the Return of Palpatine Somehow
But in all seriousness, as much as I am excited for Hal to get V2 out … I’ve been coming less and less since these movies have left such a sour taste where I need some excitement from Lucasfilm to bring me back. But, I’ll be happy to have this downloaded and saved and watch it one day, lol! Great work on everyone’s contribution to salvage this tril…erm movie!
Thanks all, really.