Just watched Two Towers and wanted to give some feedback. It looks really great for the most part. The colors are beautiful, except for a couple shots in the snow that look a bit too purple. Especially the openingshots but perhaps a few others as well. Not sure if it’s also the case in the original 35mm scan though, but it’s definitely noticeable.
I was perusing through these versions of LotR and while the color on these versions of the trilogy look really amazing, the grain has unfortunately been quite scrubbed away. While comparing the official extended editions to these theatrical versions it’s immediately noticeable how clean these look. A bit too clean for my taste, but your mileage may vary. Pretty weird how they scrub away the grain in the 2009 theatrical blurays but then keep it in tact for the 2011 extended blurays.
If you don’t like grain, then these versions are perfect for you. But if you do like it in these films, then I’d suggest the 35mm regrades by remsouille.
Nice work, looks really good. Those bluray editions have a greenish tint I always found ugly and is especially noticeable in the scenes in the police station.
I would very much like a link.
How would you say your grade differs from kk650’s regrade from years ago?
I just watched Fellowship and gotta say you did an amazing job. The 35mm version already looked really good but this is definitely the best way to watch the trilogy.
What would at the moment be the best versions for the extended editions? I know there is a 35mm version and regrades (like 44rh1n version) of fellowship extended, but what’s the way to go for two towers and return of the king?
Any chance for a new discord link to follow the progress? I’d like to contribute if still possible
I’d very much like a link to these!
This sounds like brilliant work, would be great if someone could send the link, please?
Also, how does this compare with the 35mm scans of the theatrical and extended cuts done by elendil42 in another thread?
Well, these are sourced from the Extended blurays, with a custom colorgrade based on the 35mm. The colors should be similar, but the 35mm ones will probably have a bit more grain or scratches maybe, or just general lower quality since the bluray source here used uses the original camera negative and not some copy-of-a-copy 35mm print. Just a guess though, I haven’t seen the 35mm ones yet.
Anyone here that can send me a link to the trilogy please?
Could someone PM me the resilio link for the 3 theatrical versions?
Thanks for your work on this, very excited after watching the 4K blurays and being slightly disappointed.
Could some PM me a link for the first part?
And does this version differ in some way from the Dremastered theatrical 4k ones ? Besides it being the extended version of course.And a side question; when it’s finished, could a TrueHD audio track from the 4Ks be added? That’s in my opinion the only real upgrade in those discs.
Its based on the Extended Bluray from 2011 which had much better Picture quality than the theatrical Bluray, at least it Had better encoding, was sharper and more detailed. This results in a much better looking 4k Upscale, even beating the original 4k Bluray. The Colorgrading should also be different compared to the theatrical 4k Dremastered.
How are the colors different? Did DrDre’s theatrical version get a color regrade at all or was the original 2099 bluray grade used? How do they differ?
Thanks for your work on this, very excited after watching the 4K blurays and being slightly disappointed.
Could some PM me a link for the first part?
And does this version differ in some way from the Dremastered theatrical 4k ones ? Besides it being the extended version of course.
And a side question; when it’s finished, could a TrueHD audio track from the 4Ks be added? That’s in my opinion the only real upgrade in those discs.
Looks like an awesome job, thanks! I’m curious though why you used the 2017 StudioCanal version? Wasn’t that one DNR’ed to death with wax faces? Why not use the 2015 bluray as a basis?
On the argument of people contributing to these projects; where do such things happen? How do I know what is planned to be scanned and how/where can I contribute?
Warning: I’m going in-depth on Lost events and timelines here, so if you’re watching it now or still want to watch it, look out for spoilers!
I’ve recently been getting into Chronologically LOST for the first time after many ‘normal’ Lost rewatches and I found it’s a really rewarding way to rewatch the series sequentially without flashbacks or flashforwards intercut. Especially the on-island parts flowing immediately into the Oceanic 6 storyline of them leaving the Island. Hopefully some fellow Lost nerds can give me some feedback on this idea!
While I appreciated the work done on this project very much, I didn’t really dig the way the time traveling in season 5 was handled. At the end of season 4 (December 2004 in-universe), Ben turns the wheel for the first time and the characters get split up into on-islanders and off-islanders, in differing locations and timelines. The on-islanders first go through a series of 14 timeskips and end up stuck in 1974 when Locke turns the wheel for the second time and stops the timeskips. The off-islanders leave the island just as Ben turns the wheel for the first time in December 2004, end up getting rescued as the Oceanic 6 and live their life between 2004 and 2007 off-island. That is, until Locke shows up in 2007 after turning the wheel for the second time (which stops the timeskips), and starts trying to get them back to the island. Both of these on- and off-islander timelines eventually match up again at the end of season 5, when the bomb is detonated, which propels the on-islanders back from 1977 to 2007 again, where everyone is once again in the same sequential timeline.
The way this time traveling is handled in Chronologically Lost is that the 14 timeskips and the part in 1974-1977 is, of course, shown pretty much in the beginning since it happens chronologically. But my problem was that from the perspective of the characters, those events happen between 2004 and 2007. For instance; the first episode of Chronologically Lost first shows the earliest flashback in the Jacob/MiB episode, and all of a sudden it switches to the earliest timeskip where Locke turns the wheel for the second time and Charlotte dies. Then we only meet Charlotte much later on, when she originally shows up in season 4.
So I had the idea to try to re-edit Chronologically Lost to something where the characters’ causality is more or less kept in tact, while still showing most events chronologically. So in my opinion, it mostly comes down to rearranging the events from season 5 to show up later, so they match up with the timeline of the characters, in stead of the timeline of the universe of the show. So all the flashbacks are still shown early, when they actually happened in that time for the characters, without time travel involved. Which is mostly the MiB, Jacob and Richard stuff, and then going on to all the other flashbacks.
Roughly it comes down to this:
MiB/Jacob earliest flashbacks
Richard flashbacks
all other flashbacks and early years of the characters
oceanic 815 flight crash (2004)
all on-island events up until Ben turns the wheel (as well as The Constant episode where Desmond mentally time travels, so the parts where he flashes to 1996 don’t show up earlier with the ‘normal’ flashbacks of the other characters)
Ben turns the wheel, the island moves and the timeline gets split into two sections:
– on-islanders: 14 timeskips until they end up in 1974 and live there until 1977
– off-islanders: Oceanic 6 storyline 2004-2007 where they leave and eventually come back in Ajira 316, land on the island and all events on-island in 2007 until fake-Locke manipulates Ben to kill Jacob
The Incident happens, the bomb is detonated in 1977 and the 1977 characters get back to 2007 and there is 1 timeline again
all normal season 6 events happen until Jack closes his eye
New Man in Charge epilogue
flash-sideways events
I would think this is a much easier to follow chronology since you follow along the characters and experience events in their timelines, as they experience them. And so mostly keeping intact causality.
All in all, this wouldn’t require that much effort since Chronologically Lost already did most of the heavy lifting. It would mostly consist of finding and editing out all the timeskips from season 5, as well as Desmond’s mental timeskips in season 4. And then work up a good order of events between the moment Ben turns the wheel at the end of season 4 and the moment the bomb goes off at the end of season 5.
While thinking about how to order this, I think I ran into two issues:
These two issues conflict each other. Since if you show the off-islanders section first, you would correctly see Jack, Kate, Hurley and Sayid vanish from the Ajira flight first, and later appear again in the on-islanders section. But then you would see Locke appearing all of a sudden in the off-islanders section first, and only later seeing him leaving the island in the on-islanders section. Thus, Locke’s causality would be incorrect. And if you show the on-islanders first, it would be the other way around and Jack’s, Kate’s, Hurley’s and Sayid’s causality would be incorrect. Because you would see them appear in 1977 all of a sudden, and only later seeing them vanish from the Ajira flight in 2007.
I think I found a way to avoid this, which would require extra time flashes which could be confusing, but it would keep causality intact. It would look like this roughly:
Any Lost fans here that could give me some feedback or suggestions on this in general, or specifically on my solution to the two issues of the Ajira flash and Locke?
It would be a really fun project for me to put together since I’m really interested in film editing and would like to teach myself a bit about it and get comfortable with the software. Also, it wouldn’t take that much time relatively since Chronologically Lost already did most of the work. But still, it of course would take some time for me to do since I’m still mostly a noob when it comes to video editing.
I do have some basic experience with editing and I’m generally pretty tech-savvy with different programs and software. Which software would be recommended to use for me on this project? Something more professional like Davinci Resolve or something more simple like Openshot, Hitfilm or Shotcut?
I’d very much like a link to this? Could someone PM it to me?
Yeah, it looks amazing on the screenshots. Awesome work!
I’ve been trying to find it all over the place, from usenet, private trackers to private mega forums, but it’s not available anywhere I could find. Could someone redirect me to place to get it or is it only available on thestarwarstrilogy forums?
I read this thread and I know I’m not an active member, though I’ve been reading here a lot for the great information and discussions about star wars, its history and film preservation. I don’t want to intrude on anyone like what Nate D said so it’s okay if it’s not possible to get it somewhere. Then I’ll just wait until it’s available somewhere else.
I’ve got the 1.4 version and I really like the color grading, only the grain could be a bit less to me. Will this new 2.0 version only apply minimal DNR or will it also be a new color grade? Where can I follow the progress on that 2.0 version? And is that the same as the Skymaster/Skywalked edition I’m reading about? (sorry if this has been asked already)
I currently have the 1.6 version of 4K83 and am downloading the 1.4 version to compare and see which version’s colors I like more, since 1.6 does look a bit toned down or flat in some aspects.
Generally, I like the colors to be more vibrant and I don’t really mind a bit of grain. For instance, the grain on 4K83 1.6 seems perfect to me. But the grain on 4K77 1.4 is a bit much, so I’m hoping the upcoming 2.0 version will fix that for me with a bit more DNR.
What version of Jedi would you guys recommend? 1.4, 1.3 or this Destiny edition?