I agree thematically with most of these cut ideas, but I worry about how much we’d realistically have left since Rogue One’s editing is quite breakneck as-is. It’s a shame there’s no full deleted scenes available honestly.
Genocide is… maybe too spoilery to be a title? Perhaps ‘Flashpoint’?
Yeah, upon reflection it’s very much on-the-nose. Flashpoint works great imo, I just have to set aside my DC/Arrowverse brainrot when I hear the word lol
Has anyone ever attempted adding Mon Mothma to Base One in the Yavin scenes in ANH?
Big fan of Divergence for Movie 5 personally!
My suggestions:
6 - Assessment/Determination/Commitment (any one of these)
Cassian and Syril both assess/determine the value of the Ghorman front for their own respective organizations’ goals, Wilmon’s determination is tested by Saw, Davo Sculdun assessed his collection which requires Luthen and Kleya to infiltrate his party, testing Lonnie’s determination
7 - Genocide
Perhaps the most important single word uttered in the arc (or alternatively if that’s too on-the-nose, something like Collapse/Catastrophe/Undoing/Massacre)
8 - Messenger
The core of this arc is about Luthen’s message making its way to Yavin 4, but on top of that Kleya sends out a desperate message which Cassian responds to; Most importantly, Cassian completes his journey by the end of this arc, on his way to becoming the Messenger the Force Healer foresaw him to be.
9 - Stardust 😉
As far as I can tell this is basically how it is in all three official continuities,
… Wait what’s the third?
I’ve been a fan of the idea for some time. I feel like Prowse resembles what we now imagine Anakin might look like at that age way more than Shaw does.
I made a really rough mockup a long time ago, but I think it gets the idea across. If sonmeone were to actually make it, Prowse has a more “Anakin” hairstyle in a movie called Vampire Circus.
I like what you are doing with Boba, trying to integrate him into season three. The audio exchange isn’t completely there yet, but I definetly see what you are going for. I think less may be more. It seems a little too wordy as I know you are trying to sell the new plot through dialogue and insert in some legend’s material. Also, I would let the subtitles for the mando language stay on screen for slighly longer, they are a bit abrupt.
“Sorry, I can’t join you (just) yet. The Hutts are (already) showing interest in my territory. But I will be there when you need me.”
"Check again for a ping from Skywalker('s acedemy on Ossus).
I was thinking the same thing actually, no need for some of those words and phrases.
Acbagel, I feel like I remember seeing this somewhere, but have you already/do you plan on integrating Mando’a into your earlier movies? I can imagine it being pretty jarring otherwise, especially for someone like Boba to speak it since he hasn’t typically lived alongside Mandalorians.
He added Chopper to Echo Base in ESB:R. I’m sure we have some neat easter eggs to look forward to for ROTJ:R.
Wait what?? I had no idea. Anyone have a screenshot handy?
I agree, one wouldn’t want too much exposition in such an emotional scene. That line addition sounds pretty good to me though.
Just clicked on this thread out of curiosity, and WOAH that new Leia death scene hits so much harder than I was expecting. Daisy Ridley’s performance surprisingly works really well with this change. Amazing work blending the edits in.
The main thing I can think of is somehow communicating the cost that Force healing requires, either earlier on or in that moment, because the stakes aren’t entirely clear until after Leia dies.
Definitely what Darth Lucas said. See also Adywan’s SW Revisited edits, they fix a TON of those mistakes you’re talking about. That being said, they also make other changes that may or may not be too different from the OG feel you’re after, so YMMV.
Sounds interesting!
With you reframing the movie as an Episode I, what’s your vision for the rest of the trilogy? Would you use TCW to make an Episode II?
The overarching title could use something like Omnibus or Collection? I know that there is some rearranging of scenes but since the intent is presenting the story arcs as they are, I feel like collection-related words get that point across well.
As for the movie titles, maybe movie one could be “Incitement”? Or something implying an awakening to one’s surroundings or reality.
I don’t have anything off the top of my head for movie two, but there seems to be a theme of fragility being explored or exploited in the different plots? I’m working from memory here so I could be off.
I think you’re absolutely on the right track, something about the sacrifices made for a bigger cause would be perfect.
Maybe something using the word Martyr or Martyrdom? It gets at the idea of sacrifice from a character-based perspective, and it’s definitely not a word a lot of project titles have used.
If anyone has any ideas for a name for this subfranchise, let me know. And any simple poster art would be welcomed.
I could just call it ‘Andor: Refocused’, to keep it on brand, but I don’t really have a strong feeling. ‘Andor: Four Movies, Nothing Removed’ could also be useful to illustrate what it is. My current project working title is simply AndorByFour, but at the end of the day this’ll be nine things.
I know that having Andor in the name would do a lot for recognition, but there’s so much going on that isn’t related to Cassian Andor, especially if Rogue One ends up being a part of this.
“Spark of Rebellion” feels so overdone at this point, but maybe some sort of name like that which captures the idea that this is the story of how a Rebellion is formed?
I’d love a link as well!
As a huge Andor lover myself, an edit like this keeping everything intact is the only kind I’d ever watch! So mark me down as interested.
Making 8 movies out of Andor’s two seasons would also make for a nice round nine-ilogy? ennealogy (I had to look that one up) when paired with Rogue One… just an idea, in case you’re a fan of satisfying numbers.
Hey all!
As y’all have probably assumed by this point, this edit is sorta “on hold” at the moment.
There’s a number of reasons behind this, but the main one is that real life got in the way. No family tragedies or anything, I just end up keeping myself busy!
Another reason is scope creep. The amount of VFX and neural networking that this project relied on made for a very daunting first fanedit, the reality of which didn’t really set in with me until I sunk my teeth into the first episode and realized how much I was in over my head.
Finally, now that it’s been several months since the conclusion of Mando Season 3, I’ve found myself not feeling super inspired to even tackle the edit in the first place. The direction that the Mandalorian-related Star Wars projects are going just isn’t something that excites me enough to prioritize editing this season. I’m hoping this changes with Ahsoka, but as of right now Mando just hasn’t been sticking with me.
So what does this mean for the project? I’m gonna officially put this as “on hold” for the foreseeable future. I’d love to come back to this when I’m more skilled and more inspired, but I don’t have the talent or the passion right now to make this what it ought to be. I have other simpler fanedit ideas, and hopefully that’ll help me hone my skills and give me something else to give to this community.
Many apologies for such a late response by the way! It sounds a little weird, but it’s all too easy to forget that y’all are real people when all I see are anonymous forum users. This post should’ve come to y’all sooner.
See you soon, either working on this project or another one!
That sounds fairly seamless! I hope it’s reasonably possible to vfx R5 over in the appropriate places, I really like how this builds up R5’s arc as you mentioned.
Yeah, the VFX will be a bit of a hurdle but I was going to have to figure out how to composite R5 anyways for some later shots, so now I just gotta learn sooner!
(Now that I’m thinking about it, kinda weird that they made the bubble for Grogu only to barely use it, huh?)
I was thinking about this when I was writing up that last post too! Strange little thing. If I go down this route then the bubble’s officially dead in this edit sadly.
Okay, I think I came up with a decent solution to the R5 issue in Chapter 17.
Basically, Din would get R5 at the same time as the N-1, as losthead suggested, but not for the purpose of spelunking (since Din has no plans to go to Mandalore yet); instead, Peli insists that an astromech is an essential part of a starfighter like the N-1, and Din reluctantly accepts since he just needs a ship.
Things play out similarly from there: Din goes to Kalevala, decides to go to the Living Waters, then goes to Nevarro to hopefully rebuild IG-11 to use for spelunking. However, instead of Din being told to go find a IG memory circuit, Din is told how it’s basically impossible to get a new IG memory circuit and the project ends there.
Din then leaves Nevarro and decides that he has no other option except R5, and chooses him for the job (albeit with low expectations).
I feel like this not only helps streamline things but also makes Din’s “trusting droids” arc in this season a bit stronger. Now, Din’s decision to have R5 be his spelunker is something he chooses based on his circumstances, instead of being convinced to by Peli. He makes the connection between R5 and spelunking himself, since before that he basically understood R5 as simply a component of the N-1. Having it be Din’s own choice also rewards him even more since he benefits from putting trust in a droid—as he perceives it, a very risky bet—ultimately strengthening his trust in droids.
Would love to hear y’all’s thoughts on this!
losthead said:
That’s true, the IG-11 setup is pretty essential. Maybe there’s a way that Din could take the commercial vessel to Nevarro? Then he could mention to Greef that he’s looking for a replacement for the Razorcrest as well. Not sure how feasible it is, and at the end of the day not a huge issue, but interesting to think about.
I actually really like this idea. I’m still pretty attached to having Din go to Bo-Katan before preparing to go to Mandalore, which can’t coexist with him going to Nevarro first (unless they’re running greyhounds to Kalevala), but I’ll give it some thought. To be fair, Nevarro makes more sense as a commercial destination than Tatooine, since it’s on the Hydian Way.
Also, I know you mentioned AI voices, but I do know that Emily Swallow and Katee Sackhoff have Cameos for relatively cheap, that may be a viable source of lines for their characters.
Honestly, and I kinda hate saying this, I’ll probably get better results from AI. If I used Cameos I’d be matching professionally recorded audio with Emily and Katee’s iPhone mics, and I’d only get whatever take they’d send me unless I pay again. As long as I use the dialogue track as a source, the AI voices will probably sound more similar to the original dialogue, and will probably end up being more economical too.
I do like the creative solution though!
This sounds perfect! Working BoBF in as a subplot of Mando’s story feels a lot more balanced than how it ended up being presented, and I’m intrigued to see how Grogu being missing is accomplished. Definitely feel like more time apart will be more impactful. Out of curiosity, how much of Boba Fett’s story will be included? Do we see his flashbacks, or is it just Din’s interactions with him?
Just Din’s ineractions; Boba’s basically functioning as a guest star like last season. Season 2’s post-credits sets this up fine as-is, so I don’t feel like I really need to include much else. Boba’s rise to power is now simply implied with the passage of time (which, given how it actually went down in BoBF, I’m ok with not seeing).
Also, and this would require some more VFX work than may be possible, but with Grogu out of the picture, maybe Din gets R5 from the get go of having the N1? Would be a bit difficult to pull off, but would spare a return trip to Peli’s.
This is something I was considering, but the problem is that Din’s trip to Nevarro sets up a lot of plot threads (Greef offering Din land/a home, IG-11/12’s return, the pirates). The only one of these I can probably get rid of without missing much is the pirates, but the Anzellans only appearing in the penultimate episode with a brand new mech for no reason doesn’t feel great. And the promise of land is both the motivation for the Mandalorians taking action against the pirates and setup for where Din ends up at the end of the season.
I agree that him going back to Peli’s feels strange, but I don’t think there’s much I can do. If you have any ideas let me know!
Lastly, are the Plazir and Pershing stories cut down? I imagine that episode with both of them would have to be quite hefty.
Yes, that’s the goal! I haven’t made a rough cut of that episode yet, but based on my notes it should be pretty easy to condense.
Really excited to see where this goes! As another full time student, best of luck with your endeavors! Finals will be kicking our asses haha.
Oh yes! Can’t stop the academic grind.
When can Chapter 17 be expected?
I know this project is HUGE undertaking, but I can’t help but be excited about what you put together.
I can’t make any commitments to a release schedule right now unfortunately. It’s finals season for me, so this project won’t be a priority for at least a couple more weeks. After that, I should be able to work more regularly on it. Hope that helps!
What video quality will you be working with? At least 1080p, I assume.
The final release will be in 4K!
Also, where will you be uploading the finished products?
I haven’t figured that out quite yet; likely just a file-sharing site like Google Drive or MEGA.
All in all, a really solid idea! I look forward to see what you put together.
Thank you thank you!
I wonder if for Chapter 21 if it could be edited to make Carson holocall instead of travel to coruscant.
With him planet hoping back and forth it kind of removes tension because Nevarro would have been completely destroyed in that time.
It wouldn’t be perfect because he still travels to Mando and Mando then to Nevarro but it would be better in my opinion.
Not sure if it’s possible with the shots you’ve got to work with but thought it was worth putting the idea out there.
I agree that the tension doesn’t build super effectively, but I don’t know how feasible making a holocall scene would be.
While Nevarro would be destroyed in the time it takes Carson to reach Coruscant, the pirates’ goal is to plunder and pillage, not destroy, so I feel like at least that part isn’t something to worry about.
I’d like to see if I can imply some greater passage of time for the events on Nevarro, to hopefully help with that tension issue. Like showing Greef’s camp at night, and then the next scene on Nevarro is at day showing that they’ve been exiled for a while.