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#1154402
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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lansing said:

hakkaibills93 said:

you have effectively recover dark things but you now less see things in the white things as you can’t almost not see anymore the details i was talking before
that’s why your references have to be “perfect” else you’ll loose something if you don’t have perfect reference you’ll have to alter manually colors and work with tone yourself to recover the dark things without destroying the white

That is what the program was supposed to do. It successfully matched the color of the star war blu-ray to the reference. The whites in the matched image was blown out because the white in the reference image was also blown out. Your observation is really off.

From my tests, it was more like the priority decision of the color matching has to do with the size of the color. If I have a big chunk of red in the image, that red will have higher matching priority than some smaller reds. For example, in my comparison images, if I make a montage reference by stacking this current shot and a close up shot of the yellow shoes and then use that resulting LUT on this current shot, the yellow shoe would be matched.

yes sorry i am off of the topic but i wanted to advice you that using not perfect references as the funimation bluray will give you innacurate result that’s all

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#1154320
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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lansing said:

hakkaibills93 said:

but anyway it’s mean to be wrong, funimation blue ray have dark colors cause it have crush black and overbright so if you “copy” colors to the kai footage which don’t have crush black you’ll have some colors too dark than others
you have to think that (cause it’s not totally accurate like i said with some green in the yellow for example) if you have a dark blue with a crush black footage, your goal is to get the same blue as bright as it was crushed black so a middle blue instead of the dark blue

What? I don’t think that’s how the algorithm of the program works.

if i am correct the program goal is to “match” colors so he will alter your source colors until match your reference, but the things is that the “reference” you use is oversaturated, overbright and crushed black so even your reference already have color alteration, the tool copy saturation etc…

the hardest things in color correction is not only to take color in consideration, but also the footage, for example cels, carddass etc don’t have the same brightness , contrast etc than the dbox if you want the same colors you also need to adjust those to match them

for example if take this screenshot

you see details in the white (where the guys are running) but not in the dark as it was crushed
here the source

if you watch the regraded bluray

you have effectively recover dark things but you now less see things in the white things as you can’t almost not see anymore the details i was talking before
that’s why your references have to be “perfect” else you’ll loose something if you don’t have perfect reference you’ll have to alter manually colors and work with tone yourself to recover the dark things without destroying the white

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#1153853
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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okay as i did my cc with other software i never notice this issue…don’t know how it work but maybe try with the two settings (like use maximum settings)

but anyway it’s mean to be wrong, funimation blue ray have dark colors cause it have crush black and overbright so if you “copy” colors to the kai footage which don’t have crush black you’ll have some colors too dark than others
you have to think that (cause it’s not totally accurate like i said with some green in the yellow for example) if you have a dark blue with a crush black footage, your goal is to get the same blue as bright as it was crushed black so a middle blue instead of the dark blue

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#1153595
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Color matching and prediction: color correction tool v1.3 released!
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Dragon Ball Kai 1-98 use a differrent color palette than the dragon ball z series, all colors channel aren’t exactly the same that’s why you can’t duplicate z colors to them.
For 99 to the end you can for sure use as it was not done the same way

about dragon ball z bluray , colors are almost okay, film also have tint in the white and some slight alteration like the yellow being too much green and other slight things and yes there is crushed black, overbrightness and excessive saturation

movies also need color correction for what i have seen from the funi movies bluray

your references are good but for the kai 1-98 just keep the color exactly as they are

i already tried this tools and it only fail when the source you want to correct isn’t suppose to have the same colors (i tried with the dbz first episode preview that have goku arm in red (color error) that was corrected in the episode…i tried to color match the dbox footage with the broadcast colors and it didn’t change the arm color cause it wasn’t suppose to have this color