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LexX said:

Would be cool to get all different intros and credits from different countries along with the soundtracks and make an ultimate version where you can choose which version to watch. I'm not into making these from scratch so I could live with the original video spliced into ie. DJ's versions or something. But good luck with your project!

Thats pretty much what I had planed to do with my french, german and UK laserdiscs. Someday I will, when I have the free time.

toho-scope said:

id be interested in a hybrid cut of the french/german/spanish 1995 LDs with simple filtering along with the english 93 soundmix in pcm along with the original LD.

 

I dont have the discs :( 

I don't think there are any PAL LDs with an english soundmix from 1993.

I have the 1993 german LDs, 1994 french LDs, 1995 THX german LDs, 1995 THX french LDs with french audio and 1995 THX french subtitled with english audio. I also have UK LDs from the 80s but these have analog sound and my LD player does't support analog audio from PAL LDs. I am still missing any spanish LDs and the french LDs from 1989.

As far as I know these are not available anywhere. I planned to rip these a while ago and even started to buy some capture equipment to do this but I kind of lost my motivation because of missing frames when I tried to sync my captures to the gout dvds.

I planned to create DVDs that are a combination of the french and german PAL laserdiscs and includes the 1995 german, french and english LD PCM audio and openings crawls. I have the required equipment, tools and laserdiscs but currently not the free time to do this the way I planned.

I could make some simple menuless DVD preservations of the german LDs if people are interested, but I still want to do it the right way some time in the future.

Looks quite good. Someone with a good JVC or Panasonic S-VHS VCR should get an even better result.

I always loved his art. RIP

MrBrown said:

When I wrote "speed up" I meant "speed down" :) just a bit mixed up here.

We could be lucky that with HD the PAL speed up is almost a matter of history, at least a fading part of ancient Video times...

This post is off-topic to DOTD but relevant to DVD audio vs blu-ray audio.

Unfortunately the problem of incorrect audio speed is not entirely solved. It is fixed for blu-rays of movies, but there are still some problems with TV shows that are dubbed to another language.

As you might know in germany everything gets dubbed and everything released domestically includes at least the german and the original audio track. The problem with TV shows is that these are dubbed for TV at 50Hz and broadcasted this way. When this show is released on blu-ray the disc can either be at 50p with the correct german audio but incorrect original audio or 60P/24P with correct original audio but incorrect german sound.

There are several blu-rays with this effect, sometimes it even happens with big budget movie releases. The german release of LOTR EE is a well known example. The original german DVD release of LOTR EE had pitch-corrected audio at 25fps. This was slowed down to 24fps for the initial blu-ray release. Warner Home Video has fixed this and you can replace the wrong discs, but it shows that there are still some issues left.

I just watched this on vimeo on my HTPC. It is a great video with a lot insight and stuff I didn't know about the movie, but I didn't enjoy it as much as "Star Wars Begins".

I only have one minor complaint. The volume of the voice over comments was all over the place. I constantly needed to adjust the volume of my TV because some comments were too loud or too quiet.

vbangle said:

If you have your own blog/forum/website why keep spamming it here?

Honestly you sound like a broken record. Haven't we've seen this before from you? What's next, you deleting all your posts and saying goodbye just like last time?

I agree with you that it is unnecessary to make so many posts here instead of his blog, but I don't get why you are attacking him? His project finally makes good progress after several years of preparation and he is willing to share information and the final result with us. This is very promising project and I think he deserves some recognition for it.

You could try this:

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/H264TS-Cutter

or

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/TSSniper

or try to use PVAstrumento to remux the streams, although if ProjectX fails this might too.

You can cut MKV with

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/MKVtoolnix

or

http://www.videohelp.com/tools/SolveigMM-AVI-Trimmer

but I don't know if these can do frame exact editing.

wanderer said:

So please, can anyone help me? Iam searching a long time, and i was found this forum. Can anyone tell me WHERE I can find the german DVDs of Star Wars triology - the original unaltered theatralic cinema version in GERMAN language, which was realesed at 12th Sept in USA and 14th Sept. in Germany for 3 month till 31. dez.??? I can find it anywhere

Thank you very much! :)

You can buy these DVDs used on Ebay.de or via Amazon.de marketplace, sometime these are even new. There are usually a few available at any given time. Use "star wars DVD limited" or something similar to search for it. Unfortunately, prices are pretty high at 30-35€ per title! Of course you get both the theatrical version and the 2004 Special Edition on separat discs for each title.

rortiz77 said:

Well, they sing the same old song:

We managed to get a copy of it, thanks to a surprise source, but we were asked to not duplicate it.

 

Yeah, real bummer. All the teasing from the article good for nothing. I don't understand these people. I can understand that they want to respect the source's wish, but what is the point of teasing everyone else with something they can't get? I also don't get why the original source asks not to duplicate it. It would only make sense if there would be a commercial release in the future, but I doubt this will happen.

Very nice. Thanks.

Monroville said:

Anyone know where to find the ZION version?

Now also available on myspleen.

Cello Wars:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BgAlQuqzl8o

This 'Z' version is pretty widespread. This was the version I watched back in 1999 when the movie was already out in the USA but not in europe yet.

I also have a factory pressed bootleg VCD that I bought on ebay, which turned out to be this version.

If this appears on myspleen I can help with the seeding.

negative1 said:

pittrek said:

Well the screenshots look great :)

ok, i have the three avi files ready,

if there is interest i can upload them.

 

later

-1

Of course there is interest...

Could you please upload these to multiupload.com? This way there are several download mirrors and you still only need to upload every file once.

I had some problems with your CED-uploads a few weeks ago.

For the official PAL GOUT DVDs several language tracks are available from the newsgroup. This includes english, french, german, spanish and italian tracks (ac3, dolby 2.0).

There is a german full Super 8 scope version of Empire Strikes Back on german ebay.

It is already at 200 Euros after only a few hours.

How much do you think this is worth?

http://translate.google.de/translate?sl=de&tl=en&js=n&prev=_t&hl=de&ie=UTF-8&layout=2&eotf=1&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.de%2Fitm%2FImperium-schlagt-zuruck-komplett-CINEMASCOPE-neuwertig-%2F140638154072%3Fpt%3DDE_DVDs%26hash%3Ditem20beafed58&act=url

skyjedi2005 said:

 

Does the UK have the death penalty?

Civilzed countries have abandoned the death penalty.

(yes this means I just called the USA uncivilized).

I have the UK fullscreen laserdiscs of the OT, but all the discs suffer from laser rot. 

Star Wars as the oldest disc is the worst case, there are a lot of artifacts and video dropouts (the small black spikes all over the image). In addition Star Wars has some weird interlacing issues, like it was badly converted from an interlaced NTSC source.

Empire strike back has a severe case of chroma noise..

Return of the jedi seems not as bad as the other two, but also has video dropouts.

Unfortunately my CLD-S315 player can't play analog audio on PAL discs. This plus the other problems is the reason why I never bothered to capture these discs.

An official fullscreen DVD of the star wars trilogy? Seriously???

I am honestly amazed that this was produced (and that some people actually bought it).

Damn, now I have to buy and import these DVDs.

Personally I think 1 frame of desync is unnoticable, but if we know there is some desync we should fix it.

By the way I wanted to make bit-perfect audio rips of the german 1993 and 1995 Laserdiscs. I even bought a new LD-Player for this, because my CLD-315 has no optical audio. Unfortunatly the DVL-909 I got from ebay 2 weeks ago turned out to be an asian instead of european model and doesn't play PAL discs at all :-(.

ganonlink1991 said:

for christ sake is there a way or a site or a torrent to download the 1997 edition of return of the jedi? I have been looking forever and I'm losing my mind

I will upload the iso files of TB releases to myspleen tomorrow. These are probably the best versions of the 1997 SE we have access to.

You can ask WalkingDork for an inite to myspleen.

More info here:

http://originaltrilogy.com/forum/topic.cfm/Once-upon-a-time-on-MySpleen-NEW-Star-Wars-Category/topic/12652/

I am interested in these. Where do you want to upload these discs?

TServo2049 said:

Hey, not on the topic of crawls/credits/etc., out of curiosity, do any of the old pre-THX German videos feature the orange burn marks when we first see R2 and 3PO?

Yes, I think most releases before 1995 contain the burn marks.