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#258533
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Question about Outtake/Unused Star Wars Music...
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Whilst I was playing some Lego Star Wars II on the "Escape From Echo Base" level there was this really interesting piece of music that I thought actually worked really well. I didn't really recognize the track from anywhere in the film, however it obviously had the Star Wars feel and the similar themes running throughout the track. I actually began listening to the "Empire" soundtrack to find it but with no luck I decided it probably was an outtake.


I have the 1993 Star Wars Original Soundtrack Anthology Box Set so I popped in the "Outtakes/Previously Unreleased" disc and found that the song in question is called "Drawing The Battle Lines/Leia's Instructions". Anyways my question is, has Lucas bothered to re-release this material to the public? Is the 1993 Anthology Set the only way to get ahold of some of these extra tracks? Has some of it worked it's way into "newer" editions of the Original Trilogy soundtracks? Just curious to see if anyone knows. Thanks again! Alot of these "extra" songs have been used in other Star Wars games over time.
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#257585
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Question about the Prequels
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Originally posted by: zombie84
Theres lot of other sites that have people who love the prequels--TF.N, for example might be a decent place to post those thoughts of yours.


I actually decided to check TF.N out. I figured I'd get in contact with more like-minded people and just discuss what I enjoyed about Star Wars. Unfortunately for some reason, I find I actually get responded too more on these boards and on IMDb than on there. Maybe it's because I'm new or my post doesn't contribute enough to elicit a response but I've found that sites that actually favour the OOT or a preference towards it actually respond more than the few "Saga" sites I've been to. Oh well....what are you gonna do I guess.

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#256619
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What versions of the SW saga do you own (OT, PT, preservations, etc)?
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Star Wars (1986 VHS Re-Release)
The Empire Strikes Back (1986 VHS Re-Release)
Return Of The Jedi (1986 VHS Re-Release)

Star Wars (1995 VHS Faces Edition)
The Empire Strikes Back (1995 VHS Faces Edition)
Return Of The Jedi (1995 VHS Faces Edition)

Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (1999 VHS Release)
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones (2002 VHS Release)
Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace (2001 DVD Release)
Star Wars: Episode II - Attack Of The Clones (2002 DVD Release)
Star Wars: Episode III - Revenge Of The Sith (2005 DVD Release)

Star Wars: Episode IV - A New Hope (2004 DVD Special Edition)
Star Wars: Episode V - The Empire Strikes Back (2004 DVD Special Edition)
Star Wars: Episode VI - Return Of The Jedi (2004 DVD Special Edition)
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#256227
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Anyone see ER last week (11-02-06)? RE: Padme's death
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Originally posted by: Gaffer Tape
Originally posted by: garethxxgod
I kinda think it was the kids that ultimately did her in. Sure she was heart broken and felt she had lost the one she loved forever, but I feel that had she not been with child(ren) at the time she would have pulled through. She died while giving birth to her children but it was Anakin's actions that caused Padme to weaken while doing so.


If the birth had killed her, that would have been fine, but it was clearly stated that she was in perfect physical health.


Good point! Forgot about that line. However I still think those kids had something to do with it....they knew what they were up to.
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#254780
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Opinion Poll on Go-Mer-Tonic
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I voted for GoMer to stick around. It is nice to have that opposing or differing view even if you don't agree. Granted he may become annoying to some because he as I've read it just repeats himself, but in that case if things become intolerable for you don't you think you should ignore him? I'm sure people are starting to, I'm just saying that if you feel the conversation is going nowhere or if you'd rather not continue talking to him because he's derailing a thread, then don't. Only quote and talk to those who you want to, regardless of if he comments on something you said or not. I've seen him offer some nice differing views on subjects on here and it is good to have that kind of conversation where people can talk in an enlightened manner about something. I also like what another poster said about "everyone having the same view" things would get quite boring very quickly. Anyways that's just my perspective, I know I don't post here that often so I don't know how much credibility I can lend. Besides, atleast he's not constantly making threads about the PT or how much he loves Lucas and cluttering up the board in that way.
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#254778
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September Release BestBuy Canada Exclusive...
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They still have a good amount of these Tin Box Sets left in the Best Buy nearest me. However I can understand why, they are asking 111 dollars for it. That's just ridiculous. I remember someone saying on another board that they could get it in the States (I live in Canada by the way) for 60 bucks. You couldn't even buy 2 of the films here for 60 bucks (it's close though as this Best Buy sells them for 37 dollars a pop).

I'd love to get this if the price wasn't so terrible here.
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#254252
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STAR WARS CELEBRATION IV in Los Angeles - May 24-28 2007
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So you pay 110 dollars for a 4 day event and aren't allowed in one of those days? Maybe I missed the post, but are you allowed to purchase your way in by getting a Fan Club membership on the day?

I wish I could go but I live across the continent (and in another country to boot) and I probably couldn't get enough friends interested in this to drop that dough for tickets AND airfare/hotel etc.....but did I read that right though? pay for 4 days, get in for 3 (if you aren't a FC member) then pay extra for admittance on the 4th on the day? BULLSHIT.
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#253921
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George Lucas interview - 29th October 1979
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Ah Yes! Kagemusha! I still have yet to see the Akira Kurosawa film George Lucas and Francis Ford Coppola helped produced. I wonder if George and Francis had any impact on Kagemusha or if it was just an attempt to add "name value" to the project. The screenshots of the film I've seen have looked amazing but I've decided to not read up on the story. Well sorry about my little "sort of on topic" post. Carry on
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#253526
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McCallum on Jar Jar & Kids before TPM came out
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Originally posted by: Go-Mer-Tonic
1) Obviously Lucas isn't surrounded by people who won't question him, as McCallum himself questioned Lucas about his use of Jar-Jar in TPM.

2) Lucas knew exactly what kind of reaction he would get from Jar-Jar, yet he used him anyway.


Exactly......people question him and he does it anyways. He added Jar Jar in for the kids? I didn't know he wanted us to hate our kids so badly....I mean if you say Jar Jar was in there for humourous aspects, George really screwed it up. C-3P0 was pretty humourous without becoming a flaming retard, so is that saying that the only humour kids will understand is if things are really really really dumbed down? What target audience was he shooting for, 2 year olds who wouldn't understand Star Wars anyways?

From someone who likes the Prequels like myself, there's definately a good reason why not even most Prequel fans like TPM on the whole.
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#252275
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The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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Originally posted by: Wesyeed
Originally posted by: garethxxgod
call me a slob if you will, but I'm with Peter Griffin.....I just did not care much for the Godfather films.

I haven't seen Dr. Strangelove but my brother says it's highly overrated. Kubrick has been hit and miss with me, I like Clockwork Orange and The Shining but I hate 2001: A Space Oddessy well....since those are the only movies of his I've seen I guess I shouldn't really comment.

I know I'm really late for this discussion also, but correct me if this has already been stated. Wasn't the use of Midiclorians a way of determining how well a Jedi could use the force? I have to ask, how would they have determined how one was powerful in the force without an example? Would they have just "known"? Would it have been an instinctual thing? Midiclorians was one of those things I never really bothered about and never knew it was such a problem till I heard people complaining about it on the net, however even if not completely accurate wouldn't that be a better way to get an approximation of ones abilities with the Force? I mean "feeling" one is powerful is one thing, but it still doesn't let you KNOW how powerful they are. That to me doesn't really take away from the mystism of the Jedi Knights.


It makes jedi potential quantifiable. It's basically going against everything yoda said in ESB "size matter not"

why can't people fuoking see this?

Typical Gomer PT-gush response in 3... 2... 1...



But Jedi expand their horizons all the time. Just because a Midiclorian count says a Jedi has x amount of pull with the Force doesn't mean that that will stay that way forever or they will only get to a certain point of being able to manipulate the force. I like to believe that Jedi are only limited by how much they are willing to learn. Surely the nature of learning techniques and mastery of the force is not limited to your Midiclorian count, it's just a counter to even determine if a certain person even has the ability with the Force. If the force didn't have any ties to nature and was just a mystical energy force that just happened to appear out of nowhere, woudn't it effect everything? Wouldn't everyone be Force Sensitive?

The fact that nature surrounds it, penetrates it, makes life grow should indicate that SOMETHING has to manipulate the force and connect those who can hear the will of the force with the world around him. You could almost say that in a way the Midiclorians are like a disease and will only effect those who have certain parentage but like Anakin there is always that anomoly. Like the world the way some people are just born different. I mean how do we determine where disease come from? People study it right? I mean where does disease come from in our real world? Someone had to discover this intangible nothingness down to a science or atleast something that you can see within the blood stream or life being of that person. The Midiclorian count is taking something that is attached to a mystified ancient order and understanding how "the universe binds it together". Like most mysteries we are given the how, but never the why.

Now the Midiclorian use in the first film was only to help demonstrate how powerful with the Force Anakin really could become, nothing more really. It helps determine that he IS the Chosen One. You must see it (sorry had to throw that in there). I know the Chosen One Prophecy is pretty much looked down upon by those who don't really like the Prequels or even buy that part of the story but again that's really the only reason the Midiclorian count was used in the film. Obviously we disagree which is fine, but I'd like to hear your thoughs....and please be constructive.....I'm not going to be like a "typical gusher" and say you are wrong or anything you have to say doesn't have merit. Believe me with just the one line I atleast had to think about my response and how it made sense to myself. Take it easy.
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#252191
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My girlfriend has never seen Star Wars!
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Originally posted by: Lord_Of_The_Sith
Yeah the good thing about my g/f is that she saw the originals before the prequel trilogy because her older brother use to watch them when he was young. I watch them every day and now she is sick of Star Wars period what did i do wrong? I was hopeing she would become a fan like i would but im also a big George A Romero fan and i have all the Dead movies and she likes those better than Star Wars!


Everyday? I guess I can understand why she doesn't like Star Wars anymore....I went on a Star Wars binge for a while there but even I couldn't stand watching Star Wars everyday for any great length of time. Do you mean you just watch the Saga then give it a rest? Cause that could take some time to finish but if this is something you are doing like everyday for like months upon months on end...I can see why she'd be sick of them.
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#252190
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My girlfriend has never seen Star Wars!
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Well I'll bring this back on topic for abit about her thoughts. Let me just summarize.

- Had to reinforce the relationship (thus far) of Ben Kenobi and Darth Vader....and that Vader had killed Luke's father. She understood that Vader was evil and that someone had to fight him but just need to get the "why" of it all. She enjoyed the duel and liked the lightsabers (ohhh flashy) and I told her they get abit faster with each movie to follow.

- Really liked the finale of the film with the fighters running the trench, she was kind of confused by "Ben's Voice" but I told her I would tell her more when we watched the next film. I believe she understand that he's dead but can obviously still continue communicating with the "living".

- She also commented on how her favourite character is Han Solo....I mean Ford was quite the stud but....anyways she liked that Han came back and helped Luke out in the end. She also liked Chewie and thought he had some funny bits.

- Didn't seem all that impressed with the opening sequences with C-3P0 and R2-D2 or appreciate any comedy they lent to the film. Oh well....I guess they aren't that rip roaringly hilarious really.

- Like the "Ghostly Voice" failed to understand why Ben would commit suicide. I explained it was more of a deversionary tactic....if she agrees remains to be seen.



Besides that and the few distractions she just seemed to take everything in. I don't know how many of you would consider Star Wars one of those "have to watch several times to take it all in expierences" but I think this may be the case for her. Who knows, I guess I can help her along when it comes to the next movie.
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#252186
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My girlfriend has never seen Star Wars!
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Originally posted by: crazyrabbits
Originally posted by: garethxxgod
Star Wars is just another fun thing I want to share with her....turns out she was just really horny that night.


You have bad judgement, my friend. You should have paused the movie. Trust me, you've got all the time in the world.


heh, yeah....well we did have time after the movie. That's the great thing about her parents they don't expect her home at any time. So regardless I did have all the time in the world.
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#252009
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My girlfriend has never seen Star Wars!
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heh some of these comments are great.

Believe me, it's not like I'm gonna make her watch all six films back to back and give her the cold shoulder the entire time....we've already spaced it out between OUR time and "Star Wars Time" with which our time far outweights the one time we've watched Star Wars. If there's any indication of her feelings by what I've said, I doubt I'll lose this one because I told her to "watch the film". Star Wars is just another fun thing I want to share with her....turns out she was just really horny that night. I know sounds ultra-geeky to turn away the woman...but she's hardly neglected I can assure you
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#252007
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The Merits of the Prequel Trilogy and the "Saga"
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call me a slob if you will, but I'm with Peter Griffin.....I just did not care much for the Godfather films.

I haven't seen Dr. Strangelove but my brother says it's highly overrated. Kubrick has been hit and miss with me, I like Clockwork Orange and The Shining but I hate 2001: A Space Oddessy well....since those are the only movies of his I've seen I guess I shouldn't really comment.

I know I'm really late for this discussion also, but correct me if this has already been stated. Wasn't the use of Midiclorians a way of determining how well a Jedi could use the force? I have to ask, how would they have determined how one was powerful in the force without an example? Would they have just "known"? Would it have been an instinctual thing? Midiclorians was one of those things I never really bothered about and never knew it was such a problem till I heard people complaining about it on the net, however even if not completely accurate wouldn't that be a better way to get an approximation of ones abilities with the Force? I mean "feeling" one is powerful is one thing, but it still doesn't let you KNOW how powerful they are. That to me doesn't really take away from the mystism of the Jedi Knights.
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#251993
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For me...it all came out in the end...
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Sorry to interject, I'm gonna try and be civil to both of you. Obviously you guys are both pretty passionate about your beliefs in Star Wars. I don't mean to come to one persons' aid over the other but from every post I've seen of Go-Mer's I've never once thought of him as a "Troll". What do you define as a troll? Would it be because he has differing views from yours? Is it because he feels that George shouldn't release a better version of the OOT on DVD? Has he acted arrogantly? Or is it simply because he sees merit with the Prequels and voices his opinion so? I've seen him post here, give his beliefs but when told he was coming on too strong backed off and realized that "hey, perhaps I'll cool it abit". The guy obviously understands when he's pushing buttons.....so I say again, is he so frowned upon because he offers an alternative point of view? I thought among other things, in the appropriate threads wouldn't enlightened conversations like that be welcomed? I can't say that I've seen everything Go-Mer has posted and maybe he has acted inappropriately but from what I've seen this isn't the case.

The reason I am defending him here is because basically nobody else will. I mean it does send off some red flags with the amount of people that are pissed off at him that could mean that he comes off a little arrogant, but surely defending or even offering alternative responses to a thread topic should not result in such chastisation should it? I know I'm not a regular here, I've been coming for the last little while to read up on discussions and I've noticed one thing that has happened, that has changed since I came. When I came here I told them which Star Wars I preferred and I was still welcomed regardless. Now I see personal attacks thrown Go-Mer's way when he hasn't really warranted such behaviour. On the flipside though maybe I haven't seen you in full anti-OOT swing and maybe you should cool it Go-Mer. I don't know for sure. I understand that we're all pretty passionate and we all just rub each other the wrong way sometimes. No need to bring it down a level to petty attacks though.
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#251918
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For me...it all came out in the end...
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McDiarmid was excellent in all the films in my opinion. The guy is a classically trained theater actor, you don't get much better than him. Obviously he played "The Devil" himself in the Star Wars movies and The Devil LOVES himself. The Devil is confident, when the Devil isn't confident or feels he needs to tread lightly is when he becomes his most cunning, protecting himself, tempting those around him to turn on one another for his own personal gain. The Devil was at the height of arrogance and confidence in ROTJ, making his cackling and over the top performance all the more appropriate.
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#251917
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For me...it all came out in the end...
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damnit....if anyone has any of the Special Editions they just feel the urge to burn or break much like Cable, perhaps I could work out some deal where you give them to me for free or atleast postage and handling perhaps. I figure for those who would destroy, why not give if not to me, others who may enjoy the films? Just a thought, and again if someone wants to give me their Special Editions perhaps I can work something out as I have a friend who would like to complete his Star Wars collection....would save me 30 bucks a pop on DVDs or 60 on a set.
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#251700
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Your first reaction to Hayden is ROTJ
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I didn't like it at first, but I came around to "accepting that I couldn't do anything about it". I really wish though that Lucas would revise the scene and possibly either have the them fade from young to old or old to young....seriously. If Lucas wants to do this atleast do it with all 3 Jedi and make that compromise so that Sebastian Shaw is STILL in the scene! It'd be neat if he did it, from Digi to Puppet Yoda and Ewan to Alec, Hayden to Shaw....you get the picture. That'd be so much better.

As far as the music goes. I personally like both the new and the old music, I don't know what it is about that NEW music but it's just fun to listen to. However Yub Nub in certain circles has become such an iconic song with Star Wars. I love listening to my 1993 Soundtrack Anthology set which has Yub Nub on there. Great stuff.

I'll never buy the NEWER versions of the Star Wars soundtracks as I personally can't tell all that many differences and the songs that are changed I don't really care about anyways besides the ending song, that being said...I'm gonna put on my next CD is the NEW End Celebration song and possibly even put Yub Nub infront of it as a comparison track to have them both play after one another.