exitzero

Valheru_84 said:

exitzero said:

I was a kid when it came out, and I remember debating with friends that he was his father. I believed it because of Owen’s line about being afraid Luke had too much of his father in him. But there were a lot of kids you couldn’t accept it.

I’ve watched it twice but just can not find it for the life of me. But if you can find that vid on youtube about what was originally planned and what could have been, it’s really interesting. He put together a lot of info from old magazine interviews and the letters sent out to members from that old 80’s Star Wars official Fan Club.

Um, the post you are replying to is in our PM 😉 Not sure if you’re getting your web browser tabs mixed up or something??

Val

No, I was just replying to your post.

I was a kid when it came out, and I remember debating with friends that he was his father. I believed it because of Owen’s line about being afraid Luke had too much of his father in him. But there were a lot of kids you couldn’t accept it.

I’ve watched it twice but just can not find it for the life of me. But if you can find that vid on youtube about what was originally planned and what could have been, it’s really interesting. He put together a lot of info from old magazine interviews and the letters sent out to members from that old 80’s Star Wars official Fan Club.

Valheru_84 said:

Exitzero, did you just reply to yourself in the 3rd person? LOL

Now that you mention it, I think I had heard or read somewhere a number of years back about the same thing with GL stating 3 years had transpired between each movie which lines up with the actual time between the movies themselves releasing and probably why I misread the BBY/ABY times as I already had a preconception of the time frames.

In regards to your second post, I believe Yoda only said it in that fashion to try and impress upon Luke how unready he is to face Vader at that time.

Where in ROTJ Yoda knows he is ready now or as ready as he’ll ever be in the time they have left to defeat the Empire before all is lost, so he essentially gives the confrontation his blessing but knows as well that it will be the biggest challenge Luke will have ever faced and if he comes out of it alive and still on the light side, then he will have mastered control of his mind and emotions in the face of that massive adversity and facing the Emperor and his father of all people, essentially proving his worth to take the title of Jedi Knight (not Master mind you, but the first level of “Jedi-hood”) regardless of the time it would take under more normal circumstances and the fact that he will be the last of their kind and so needs Luke to become a Jedi to keep the flame of their order alive and pass on what he has learned. He could not do that if Yoda told him he hasn’t met the prerequisite 25 years of constant training under another Jedi and that there’s no one else left to teach him now anyway 😉

Val

Getting off topic so I PMed a reply.

Originally, GL himself said the timespan was three years between each movie. Then, when Secrets of the Empire came out, the time between Empire & Jedi was changed to one year.

That always bothered me, as Yoda told Luke he had to stay with him to complete his training. Then Luke went off on his own and was able to do 25 years worth of Jedi training (Obi-Wan was knighted as a Jedi Knight at 25) in one year all by himself. He also tells Luke that only a fully trained Jedi can face off with Vader, then tells him in Jedi he has to confront Vader to be a Jedi Knight. I know it’s all because when Empire came out the plan was to do 6 or 9 movies, and then Lucas had to wrap it all up in one move.

There’s a great video on Youtube where a guy tracks down all the old articles about Star Wars being a 9 or 12 movie run. There are quotes with Lucas and Gary Kurtz talking about Luke’s sister being a completely different person on the other side of the galaxy. She was to get her own trilogy and then Luke and his newfound sister would team up to fight the Emperor. There was also talk of Luke killing Vader and taking his place, and his sister would bring him back to the light side. It’s a very interesting video if you can track it down.

Valheru_84 said:

Ah yes, you’re all correct actually. I misread an article listing all BBY/ABY for each movie, re-checking it I can see now it is indeed 1 year between TESB and ROTJ (just based on the BBY):

0 BBY - ANH
3 ABY - TESB
4 ABY - ROTJ

So yeah, 3-4 years is getting a bit into the realm of an unbelievable time frame. Not impossible but definitely hard to believe by our standards even in a fictional universe as it still draws understanding from parallels and familiarity to ours.

In saying that, it’s still never bothered me personally as I never knew till looking at that article what the time lapses / jumps actually were and both sequels in the OT make you feel like a sufficient amount of time has passed to account for what has changed with our characters and the story.

Val

Originally, GL himself said the timespan was three years between each movie. Then, when Secrets of the Empire came out, the time between Empire & Jedi was changed to one year.

Didn’t know if any of he techniques utilized in this Star Destroyer Model video would be useful-interesting nonetheless-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x9A9FaT1wsE

The no Ranto shot looks awesome!

I too got a kick out of noticing the Battle Droid in the sandcrawler. I figure those little buggers were everywhere during the clone Wars, not a stretch that one would end up on Tatooine. I hate to see him go.

Roger, Roger.

Am I way off, or did Adywan mention he was going to film the B-Wing cockpit scenes a couple months ago?

Darth Hade said:

teharri said:

Any chances you will update planet by Death Star to match RO’s Scarif? Maybe debri from the two star destroyers. Just a thought.

Why update planet below Death Star in ANH:R to match Rogue One’s Scarif?

Scarif is not the planet where the Death Star was built.

Why would the Death Star go back to where it was built? Tarkin’s roundtable meeting is like two days after the battle of Sharif.

A possible fix-
Vader has Luke’s lightsaber in his hand when he’s looking around for Luke under the Emperor’s dais.

And just to reiterate my suggestion about adding obstacles or consoles under the dais, as there is really no place for Luke to hide.

Read an older post, are you getting rid of the shot with the numerous Tie Fighters swooping in? I hope not, I think that’s a great addition. I like that this edit is the definitive Special Edition. If someone doesn’t like the enhanced FX, they have the Despecialized edits.

See, I can be funny.

adywan said:

exitzero said:

I was watching Harmy’s Despecialized Star Wars, and noticed how much Luke and Leia’s echo in the chasm really boomed with the surround sound. I usually watch Revisted, as that is my definitive version of the film, and didn’t remember that. Comparing the echo to both Despecialized and Silver Screen editions, it seems Revisited’s echo is hushed. Was that a deliberate choice, or something that can be reevaluated with the 720p edit?

I used the 2004 mix as a basis. The echo effect was altered a few times in previous mixes and they went with a more natural one for the SE. I won’t be altering that for the HD version as i will be using the DTS 6.1 track from the blu-rays

dragon said:

Adywan just a minor question is this coming out this year or next year same question for return of the jedi revisited as well. I know your busy with it just curious that’s all.

There is zero chance any of them will be finished this year or even possibly next.

Awesome!
January 1st 2020 it is then!

ChainsawAsh said:

Each official audio mix does the echo in the chasm very differently, too. Adywan’s is a heavily modified version of the 2004 DVD mix, so it’s likely that the echo in Revisited is similar to that.

The original mixes (especially the mono mix) had more of an exaggerated echo effect, while the 1997/2004/2011 mixes have more of a natural effect, to my memory. But I could be mistaken, and Ady might have actually taken the echo effects from a different mix that the 2004. I’d have to compare all the different mixes to be sure which his is closest to.

the echo was exaggerated, but it sounded great coming out of the rear speakers.

I was watching Harmy’s Despecialized Star Wars, and noticed how much Luke and Leia’s echo in the chasm really boomed with the surround sound. I usually watch Revisted, as that is my definitive version of the film, and didn’t remember that. Comparing the echo to both Despecialized and Silver Screen editions, it seems Revisited’s echo is hushed. Was that a deliberate choice, or something that can be reevaluated with the 720p edit?

adywan said:

Look who is coming back in the HD version of ANH:R…

Using a mixture of the 4k77 release and the official blu-ray, along with addition restoration i did to the 4k77, removing all remaining film damage, Wolfman has now been restored back in the 2 shots they replaced him in the SE’s

And I went ahead and threw away Lak Sivrak’s action figure after he was no longer canon.

dgraham414 said:

I just had this thought when I was watching ANH:R last night. I understand that you are going to be changing some things between the current form of ANH:R and what will become ANH:R HD. Now what follows isn’t supposed to be inflammatory it was just a thought that I found interesting.

Would you consider the fact that you are tweaking with your version of ANH:R to be almost akin to the way Lucas tweaked with the standard ANH. We’re coming upon the same dilemma where the original ANH:R will not be available in an HD format, just like the OUT is not available in HD formats. You changed your mind about some decisions that were made and want this new HD version to be the definitive version of the films, yet there are people (like me) that would just like to see the current ANH:R but in HD.

I’m not sure this equates completely, but I feel like you could understand Lucas’s mindset on why the Special Editions exist in the first place. I also recall a popular argument for why the Special Editions are bad is because they supersede the Original Versions. That same thing is now going to happen with ANH:R. I’m not trying to be accusatory, I just thought this was something as a community that we could discuss.

What is Adywan tweaking in the ANH:R HD version that you don’t think you’ll like?

Congrats Adywan.
I’m a hip dude, but no has ever wanted to impersonate me.

adywan said:

The 26GB 1080p regrade is now available in a.b.starwars

Dumb question-What is a.b.starwars?

Whatever works best for you. Thanks again for all your hard work.

You don’t see in 4K-
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VxNBiAV4UnM

Matticon said:

I apologise in advanced if this has been discussed…or there is some drama I don’t know about…

Is adywan using the TeamNegative 1 4K version for any of the shots now it has been released? I know he is using the BluRay as the basis of this edit.

Matt

I think he had mentioned something about how problematic it is to render FX in 4K.

Great work!

adywan said:

Introducing Blue Squadron: our ROTJ:R B-Wing pilots.

I thought there would be just one or two new pilots-this is getting interesting.

Chewielewis said:

exitzero said:
He got his ass handed to him by a stormtrooper with a crowd-control staff. If Lando was in a gunfight, you wouldn’t take away his blaster and give him a lightsaber. For some reason Maz had faith Finn could use the Jedi weapon, or she’s got a weird sense of humor.

I don’t get why this is a problem. Finn could use the saber but he was not as skiled as that stormtrooper or Kylo, that much is clear. This all makes sense.

Would this make you happier?

Finn “I need a weapon”
Maz “Ok, hang on, ill find you a blaster. There’s one around here somewhere.”

If you remember, just five minutes before the First Order showed up, Han gave Finn a blaster and he accepted it. I’m not disappointed that Finn used the lightsaber, I just think JJ originally had some kind of Jedi path planned for Finn, and Maz’s intuition that he could use the saber was a hint at it.