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- Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal
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- #321610
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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ChainsawAsh said:
Ady, quick question:
One of the little things I loved most about ANH:R was the way you edited the opening crawl so "EPISODE IV" appeared at the same cue it did pre-ANH. Well, for ESB, "EPISODE V" appears at the same time "EPISODE IV" does in the re-release/SE print of ESB. In fact, ALL of the movies are like this.
Do you plan on altering the opening crawls so they start at the proper cue for all the films, the way you did with ANH? I, for one, would LOVE to see this happen (at least with the OT).
Oh, and I like the original music cue - it's very epic, and reminds me a lot of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS for some reason. Perhaps you could try it out and see how it works in context with your edit and the rest of the sound track, Ady?
Ady, quick question:
One of the little things I loved most about ANH:R was the way you edited the opening crawl so "EPISODE IV" appeared at the same cue it did pre-ANH. Well, for ESB, "EPISODE V" appears at the same time "EPISODE IV" does in the re-release/SE print of ESB. In fact, ALL of the movies are like this.
Do you plan on altering the opening crawls so they start at the proper cue for all the films, the way you did with ANH? I, for one, would LOVE to see this happen (at least with the OT).
Oh, and I like the original music cue - it's very epic, and reminds me a lot of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS for some reason. Perhaps you could try it out and see how it works in context with your edit and the rest of the sound track, Ady?
I noticed that too when I was getting elements from Episode III for some reason. Like they never noticed that they changed the timing when they added the episode number. Eh, I don't get it.
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- #321566
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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GoodMusician said:
The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.
For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.
Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.
And lastly, to simply show what it was like.
As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...
The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.
For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.
Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.
And lastly, to simply show what it was like.
As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...
You already have it SFXed? Awesome. You can post it here, we won't tell anyone!
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- STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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- #321538
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I've never really minded the farfare that was there, but I understand why some might want to replace it. If we're only replacing that one part, I would do Edit 2. I like that theme.
EDIT: I had never heard the theme from Edit 2 before this morning, now I heard it in the Star Wars Games Retrospective!
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- #321535
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- Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal
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And you can put a pound next to the boom mike reflection in Luke's goggles, and adding a windshield (spaceshield?) to Slave 1 is in both Cloud City and Empire.
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- #321505
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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- #321486
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I think seven has a pretty comprehensive list going, he just might need to update it a bit. Between all of us, I think we can work from that and add things others may have missed. Don't you worry about it, leave it to us! You have enough to worry about.
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- #321455
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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I still have 10 minutes to download it!
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- #321380
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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Ripplin said:
Boy, they sure were inconsistent with the backgrounds! You don't notice quite as much until the screenshots are put up. ;)
Boy, they sure were inconsistent with the backgrounds! You don't notice quite as much until the screenshots are put up. ;)
Well, think about it, each angle required a completely different huge painting than the one before, and no 3D model (physical or not) existed for them to match up to, so they just had to guess. Then with the SE they had to refer to these handful of paintings and try to figure out how they would look in 3D, then only change half the shots (sorry, bias showing through there). It also looks like there's a lot more buildings that should be seen from the Falcon's platform in the CGI approach shots... There's only so much one man can do to fix it.
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- #321373
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Here are more background comparisons:
Slave 1 load:

Slave 1 leave:

These backgrounds do not match at all, and the clouds behind the close up of Fett match the load screen and not the leave one.
Falcon arrive:



Falcon leave:


The shot of Han walking towards Lando and the shot of Lando and Co running towards the Falcon match almost perfectly. Everyone walking straight towards camera is a really good match to the Falcon blasting off. It all looks good, except that none of the clouds matching the more CGI shots.
So my vote is to change Slave 1's background in all the shots, because the Falcon one's match fairly well.
Ramp arrive:

Ramp leave:

The ramp towards the city has the fancy CGI background that kind of matches the original matte, but as they leave its back to the matte. Maybe we could recolor the CGI to replace the matte as they're leaving.
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Darth Stewie said:
Hey doubleofive, how do you put pics in your post?
Hey doubleofive, how do you put pics in your post?
If you click the "Help" button on the top or bottom of the page, it lists the forum codes. I use Imageshack for hosting my pictures.
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- #321330
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- So I was watching the AFI's 10 top 10 movies...
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Like I said, the buildings don't match the other shot of the Falcon anyway. Too bad they're the same as Slave 1's also. Oh, and Slave one's clear cockpit got bluescreened all the way out. Maybe we could do something about that too.
I also can't wait to see the Falcon's "exhaust" being blue all of the time.


At least they recomposited Cloud City to make it different sizes.
And my personal favorite that I ran into while fast forwarding:

Um, yeah. That's unfortunate.
I'm going to work with ImperialFighter on one of his concepts soon.
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- #321328
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Darth Stewie said:
Okay, here's me trying to swing you back again....... <AWESOMENESS>
Okay, here's me trying to swing you back again....... <AWESOMENESS>
Darn you Darth Stewie. Darn you to heck. I was watching the movie in fast forward to get those shots, I forgot about "What about those fighters?!" I guess we would need fighters then to make that make more sense. Why didn't you mention that before?!
I agree that it should be more than 3 fighters. But if the Falcon goes back to the City to pick up Luke, I guess no one notices them for a while because they went to the underside...
I love being in the middle of these debates, I wish I didn't switch sides so often. :-)
Can't wait to hear what Ady thinks after his daughter's prom.
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1:

I like this shot, but we'd need to see glimpses of the window or lighting on her face as she's shooting back at the troopers. Also, maybe a couple more ships leaving if the shot is kept in it's post-SE state.
2:

Maybe a few ships leaving in the background.
3:

Maybe more ships in this shot since theoretically we are looking towards the center of the buildings.
4:

I think the same ships that were in shot 2 should still be trying to leave. And it looks like the buildings don't match very well with the previous shots, like they didn't SE this one.
5:

The shot could be moved up so we could see teeny tiny ships leaving, but not too many as to be a swarm of flies... Maybe have the TIEs enter from the upper left side of the frame, tense up the scene a bit more.
6:

Now I think some ships could be getting shot at in the background.
And there's my Visual 5 Cents. So I think the TIEs should be brought in shortly after "Bring my shuttle" maybe like they were launched along with Vader's shuttle.
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- #321309
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At first I was excited about the prospect, then I read the good arguments about how that really wouldn't be Vader's MO. Then Darth Stewie turned me back around to liking it as we don't get to see much Imperial oppression against innocents. However, I still don't think it fits due to sequences in the movie.
Lando and Co blast their way out of Cloud City and leave in the Falcon with no problem. Then they turn around and pick up Luke. THEN the TIEs come down on them. I think that's when the "more Imperial troops" are arriving, because if there's already TIEs in the air over Cloud City, how does the Falcon leave, come back, and pick up Luke without being shot at?
I'm all for having various ships leaving after Lando announces the Empire's intentions (and as a fan of "Firefly", you could have Serenity really small in the background), but I'm no for the TIEs.
Another 5 cents about the open hallway. I love the new shot, and with some fixed reflections, I think it would be very nice.
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- #321170
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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topdawg193 said:
My favourite edit in ANH:R was the computer displays in the Rebel Base at Yavin. I was wondering if the Rebel Hoth Base could be touched up in a similar way? I'm thinking specifically about the screens in the control room (the room in which the lady says 'stand by Ion Control. And...fire'). Obviously nothing too over the top, but maybe the displays here could benefit from little digital annotations/text appearing across them, and possibly small digital diagrams and graphics flashing on the screens.
I thought the way the displays were handled in ANH:R was very tasteful, and it'd be great if the same could be done for Empire.
My favourite edit in ANH:R was the computer displays in the Rebel Base at Yavin. I was wondering if the Rebel Hoth Base could be touched up in a similar way? I'm thinking specifically about the screens in the control room (the room in which the lady says 'stand by Ion Control. And...fire'). Obviously nothing too over the top, but maybe the displays here could benefit from little digital annotations/text appearing across them, and possibly small digital diagrams and graphics flashing on the screens.
I thought the way the displays were handled in ANH:R was very tasteful, and it'd be great if the same could be done for Empire.
Good idea! I don't recall having heard that before, but I'm sure it entered Ady's mind. We're all too focused on fixing the little mistakes and ignoring the pretty improvements to be made!
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- #321096
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321096/action/topic#321096
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We need to add Chewie dancing the Hoth.
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- #321094
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321094/action/topic#321094
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sunday256 said:
Well, I heard back from my contact that worked at Lowry Digital. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any information about the coloring changes because there was none to give since he didn't start there until after SW was completed. Plus he mentioned NDAs.
Well, I heard back from my contact that worked at Lowry Digital. Unfortunately, I wasn't able to get any information about the coloring changes because there was none to give since he didn't start there until after SW was completed. Plus he mentioned NDAs.
I was just reading articles about Lowry's work and here's what Jim Ward, Vice President of Marketing and Distribution for Lucasfilm and Executive Producer of the collection said:
"We’d done a lot of work on the films prior to going to John [Lawry], re-mastering them in high-def, down-converting them into standard def, and re-color timing them. We actually took a cleaning pass through Industrial Light and Magic, as well, but then ultimately took them down to John to make them pristine."
-Apple Canada
So it sounds like ILM digitized the film, down-converted it, color-timed it, tried to clean it, and then sent the remains to Lowry to be cleaned up. Does that mean ILM add the new 2004 changes to the damaged print? It does seem like ILM is responsible for the bad colors though.
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- #321085
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- STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"<strong>ADYWAN</strong> - <strong>12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW</strong>
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321085/action/topic#321085
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Deleted Scenes said:
In the carbon-freezing sequence, C-3PO's complete line would have been "I'm not ready to die on the back of a demented wookiee!" (the italicized words were deleted from all versions of the film, but were heard in their entirety on the Story of The Empire Strikes Back LP).
In the carbon-freezing sequence, C-3PO's complete line would have been "I'm not ready to die on the back of a demented wookiee!" (the italicized words were deleted from all versions of the film, but were heard in their entirety on the Story of The Empire Strikes Back LP).
That'd be interesting to hear, and maybe squeeze in if its not too distracting.
Changes to 2004 DVD said:
When Luke confronts Vader in the carbon-freezing chamber and ignites his lightsaber, the sound from the original release is overlapped in this scene by the sound produced by Luke's new lightsaber in Return of the Jedi.
When Luke confronts Vader in the carbon-freezing chamber and ignites his lightsaber, the sound from the original release is overlapped in this scene by the sound produced by Luke's new lightsaber in Return of the Jedi.
Since you're redoing most of the sound, I'm sure you'll fix this.
Film Changes said:
# After the Probe droid lands and moves left, there is an optical wipe to the overhead shot of Luke on his Tauntaun.
# After Luke wanders through the snow and falls face down, there is an optical wipe to Han instead of a straight cut.
# After the Probe droid lands and moves left, there is an optical wipe to the overhead shot of Luke on his Tauntaun.
# After Luke wanders through the snow and falls face down, there is an optical wipe to Han instead of a straight cut.
Have you tried restoring/adding these wipes? I was pretty confused at the phrasing of the 70mm vs 35mm in the article. But I think a wipe might be useful in the first scene especially, to show that we're actually traveling back in time to before the probe landed.
Also, the article mentions ANHR, which is pretty cool.
EDIT: And though the article doesn't mention it due to gross clerical error, there is an errant slowflake on Chewbacca's foot. I don't know if anyone has mentioned it here yet.
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- #320998
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- Nothing Past 1997 - A Fans Stand
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BTW, should this be in this particular forum, since it really doesn't have all that much to do with Collecting?
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- #320997
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- So what would you think if they made these changes to the Blu-Ray release...
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/320997/action/topic#320997
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- #320991
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- STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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focuspuller said:
Yes I know it comes with a fix, I downloaded the ISO with the fix. I'm telling you it doesn't work. But you don't have to take my word for it, check it out for yourself.
Yes I know it comes with a fix, I downloaded the ISO with the fix. I'm telling you it doesn't work. But you don't have to take my word for it, check it out for yourself.
Did you just reference "Reading Rainbow"?
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- #320985
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ImperialFighter said:
I actually missed out on hearing about Adywan and his FIRST Star Wars edit till it was finalised, which is pretty annoying for me, as there was a 'couple of little things' (It's a curse I tell you!) that I would have liked to have mentioned on THAT particular thread too.... ;)
I actually missed out on hearing about Adywan and his FIRST Star Wars edit till it was finalised, which is pretty annoying for me, as there was a 'couple of little things' (It's a curse I tell you!) that I would have liked to have mentioned on THAT particular thread too.... ;)
Don't point them out, or they'll be all I can see!