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Post: #321710
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321710/action/topic#321710
Time: 24-Jun-2008 3:51 PM — Edited 24-Jun-2008 3:51 PM

adywan said:

oh yeh, didn't spot that. i'll redo the new matte. Thanks for pointing that out :)

It's like interactive movies! Like I was telling ImperialFighter the other day, I wish that "real" movies took suggestions and gave previews like this...

Post: #321703
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321703/action/topic#321703
Time: 24-Jun-2008 3:20 PM — Edited 24-Jun-2008 3:26 PM

So, Ady, back to the most recent split screen preview. I assume you changed the shot of the power generator to better match the image sent back to the Imperial Fleet. But looking at the image that Vader and Co are looking at, there seems to be a turret near the generator. What say you?

Post: #321693
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321693/action/topic#321693
Time: 24-Jun-2008 1:39 PM

vbangle said:

adywan said:

I've just had a look at your clips GoodMusician and it's i can now see why they didn't use the original score. it was definitely for a different edit of the opening. the music where the probe droid emerges does sound more like its for the the taun taun running than for the probe droid so maybe that wasn't revealed until after Luke was attacked. Also i think there may have been an extra shot of the probe flying through space. I've done a rough mock-up of the scene but slowed down some shots to fit the cues so they look odd. it would be so great if we could find some documentation of what the original edit was like.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LLCTKMOU

I do have to say though that i actually now prefer the fanfare at the end that what was originally intended. I'm probably going to keep that in and change the one at the end of the Vader meditation scene.

I'm sorry, but I don't get it..... Please reconsider before dumping the original opening music...this didn't sound like ESB AT ALL to me...

Sorry Ady....

vbangle, Adywan only said that he likes everything that is currently in the movie, except he wants to change the end of the Vader meditation scene. Nothing to freak out about, my friend.

Post: #321687
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321687/action/topic#321687
Time: 24-Jun-2008 1:17 PM

I agree with GM about the timing of the original score. The Taun Taun kind of seems evil with that music behind it, espcecially if you'd never seen it before.

But if its not getting put it in, I don't know if we need to spend more time on it. We should now be looking for a new cue for Vader's Meditation Chamber!

Post: #321681
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321681/action/topic#321681
Time: 24-Jun-2008 12:51 PM

adywan said:

I've just had a look at your clips GoodMusician and it's i can now see why they didn't use the original score. it was definitely for a different edit of the opening. the music where the probe droid emerges does sound more like its for the the taun taun running than for the probe droid so maybe that wasn't revealed until after Luke was attacked. Also i think there may have been an extra shot of the probe flying through space. I've done a rough mock-up of the scene but slowed down some shots to fit the cues so they look odd. it would be so great if we could find some documentation of what the original edit was like.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=LLCTKMOU

I do have to say though that i actually now prefer the fanfare at the end that what was originally intended. I'm probably going to keep that in and change the one at the end of the Vader meditation scene.

Change the other use of it... Why didn't any of us think of that? Leave it to Ady to not just state the obvious, but re-edit the opening sequence just to see what it might have been like.

Post: #321671
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321671/action/topic#321671
Time: 24-Jun-2008 10:33 AM

Mielr said:

darkhelmet said:

when accessing scenes via the chapter menus, the English subtitle option automatically shows up with the movie. Is there a fix I missed?

It did the same thing on my laptop. I've also noticed that the DVD9 just plays on my laptop- it won't play at all on my old iMac or on my DVD player, but the Purist DVD plays on everything. Probably due to the advancing age of my iMac and DVD player(?)

Ady,

Those who've gotten to know me in the last 2 years know that I'm no fan of the SEs. Given a choice between the SE and the Purist edition- I would far prefer watching your Purist edition.

I'm amazed at how you removed the ronto from that one scene- how DID you do that? I've watched it several times and I don't see a drop in quality- it's amazing!

I only hope that this project encourages someone, someday, to do a true purist's "purist" edition, and de-SE the entire film. You've shown that it CAN be done (and done well!)

Thanks for all your hard work.

You can see the breakdown at Erikstormtrooper's Adywan Archive with the file "mos_eisley_mixdown_layers.zip"

You can use Photoshop, The GIMP, or something like that to view all of the layers it took for him to delete the Ronto and show what was behind it. Absolutely awesome.

Post: #321665
Topic: So what would you think if they made these changes to the Blu-Ray release...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321665/action/topic#321665
Time: 24-Jun-2008 8:12 AM

It a "deleted scene" on the DVD-9 version, as much sense as that makes. Yes, Adywan made a deleted scene from scratch, and its pretty awesome.

Post: #321662
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321662/action/topic#321662
Time: 24-Jun-2008 7:47 AM

GoodMusician, thanks for your mix of the original score. If nothing else, I like seeing it preserved. I would think it was too much for a project like this, but Ady added "Battle of the Heroes" to A New Hope, and at least this was originally written for this movie. Like Lucas probably vetoed the original cut like you showed, Ady may do the opposite. In the end it wasn't up to John Williams and its not up to us, its up to the director.

May Ady's will be done.

Post: #321617
Topic: Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321617/action/topic#321617
Time: 23-Jun-2008 9:58 PM

That makes sense. I'll stop posting now. :-)

Post: #321614
Topic: Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321614/action/topic#321614
Time: 23-Jun-2008 9:47 PM

I for one am confused. So do we just make sure this has all of the suggestions, or bring up all new ones?

Post: #321610
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321610/action/topic#321610
Time: 23-Jun-2008 9:10 PM

ChainsawAsh said:

Ady, quick question:

One of the little things I loved most about ANH:R was the way you edited the opening crawl so "EPISODE IV" appeared at the same cue it did pre-ANH. Well, for ESB, "EPISODE V" appears at the same time "EPISODE IV" does in the re-release/SE print of ESB. In fact, ALL of the movies are like this.

Do you plan on altering the opening crawls so they start at the proper cue for all the films, the way you did with ANH? I, for one, would LOVE to see this happen (at least with the OT).

Oh, and I like the original music cue - it's very epic, and reminds me a lot of CLOSE ENCOUNTERS for some reason. Perhaps you could try it out and see how it works in context with your edit and the rest of the sound track, Ady?

I noticed that too when I was getting elements from Episode III for some reason. Like they never noticed that they changed the timing when they added the episode number. Eh, I don't get it.

Post: #321566
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321566/action/topic#321566
Time: 23-Jun-2008 2:05 PM

GoodMusician said:

The reason I demostrated the original cue (yes, that's the ORIGINAL Probe Droid cue) rather than the film alternate is that is Ady is going to be rebuilding the Sound field, then the alternate will produce more problems than it will solve.

For one, the music quality is different than the rest becuase it was one of a couple tracks that are improperly and haphazardly mixed on the SE.

Two, it's missing a few bars which enable the transition between it and the music as Luke is on the taun taun.

And lastly, to simply show what it was like.

As for the request to mix in the sfx, I've done that before... but my video got pulled from YouTube... I'll post it again here if you'd like...

You already have it SFXed? Awesome. You can post it here, we won't tell anyone!

Post: #321547
Topic: STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 REVISITED ADYWAN *1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321547/action/topic#321547
Time: 23-Jun-2008 9:47 AM

I took the basic form from whoever started the original entry on fanedits.com and made all the of other versions. I found the changes info by going through the thread and finding the post where Ady announces the final changes in each version. I've had him look over the fanedits.com, and he says they are accurate to the best of his knowledge. I like the actual screenshots of each release, I just used the master thing from the first post. I think since the PAL and NTSC versions' only difference is one subtitle track, I think we can combine it to just XVID, DVD-5, DVD-9, and PURIST. I don't think they would need different screenshots, especially the PURIST version as it has no menus and not any visual changes that screenshots would justify.

Post: #321538
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321538/action/topic#321538
Time: 23-Jun-2008 8:21 AM — Edited 23-Jun-2008 12:31 PM

GM, I don't understand much of where you got the music, but thanks for the edits. The more I hear it, the more I think I like the Alternate Probe Droid, or Original, or whichever one is in your edit. I really like the little teaser of the Imperial March (though its not a teaser in Revisited as it is already in ANHR a couple times). Also the more I listen to it, the more I would like to see Edit 1 balanced against the sound effects, which may or may not be impossible, and this upcoming debate may be all for naught.

I've never really minded the farfare that was there, but I understand why some might want to replace it. If we're only replacing that one part, I would do Edit 2. I like that theme.

EDIT: I had never heard the theme from Edit 2 before this morning, now I heard it in the Star Wars Games Retrospective!

Post: #321535
Topic: Adywan's ESB edit: Suggestion Terminal
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321535/action/topic#321535
Time: 23-Jun-2008 7:55 AM — Edited 23-Jun-2008 8:26 AM

Hoth: Try to fix Leia's flipped negative while looking over her shoulder at Han in the Echo Base Control Room (the tech's next to her switch sides).

And you can put a pound next to the boom mike reflection in Luke's goggles, and adding a windshield (spaceshield?) to Slave 1 is in both Cloud City and Empire.

Post: #321505
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321505/action/topic#321505
Time: 22-Jun-2008 10:21 PM

Good idea GoodMusician. Nice organizational skills there.

Post: #321486
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321486/action/topic#321486
Time: 22-Jun-2008 6:50 PM

Finally watched the new preview, and I have say that we should stop calling this "color correction" and start calling it "colorizing." The steps that you have to go through to get the colors right has to be just as hard as coloring a black and white movie. Funny how George is against colorizing classic black and white movies, but he makes his classic movie blue and white!

I think seven has a pretty comprehensive list going, he just might need to update it a bit. Between all of us, I think we can work from that and add things others may have missed. Don't you worry about it, leave it to us! You have enough to worry about.

Post: #321455
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321455/action/topic#321455
Time: 22-Jun-2008 9:55 AM

This is still the DVD sound, so there is still hope GM!

I still have 10 minutes to download it!

Post: #321380
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321380/action/topic#321380
Time: 21-Jun-2008 1:08 PM — Edited 21-Jun-2008 1:09 PM

Ripplin said:

Boy, they sure were inconsistent with the backgrounds! You don't notice quite as much until the screenshots are put up. ;)

Well, think about it, each angle required a completely different huge painting than the one before, and no 3D model (physical or not) existed for them to match up to, so they just had to guess. Then with the SE they had to refer to these handful of paintings and try to figure out how they would look in 3D, then only change half the shots (sorry, bias showing through there). It also looks like there's a lot more buildings that should be seen from the Falcon's platform in the CGI approach shots... There's only so much one man can do to fix it.

Post: #321373
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321373/action/topic#321373
Time: 21-Jun-2008 12:37 PM

Savage makes good points. I've gone back and forth enough, but I suppose my first screenshots stand with Savage's idea here.

Here are more background comparisons:

Slave 1 load:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3041/esbslave1loadlj7.jpg

Slave 1 leave:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/1817/esbslave1qe4.jpg

These backgrounds do not match at all, and the clouds behind the close up of Fett match the load screen and not the leave one.

Falcon arrive:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/3010/esbfalcon1do4.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/5728/esbfalcon2qw4.jpg

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/8905/esbfalcon3tj5.jpg

Falcon leave:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/9699/esbcloudcity2ks9.jpg

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/4201/esbcloudcity4dk7.jpg

The shot of Han walking towards Lando and the shot of Lando and Co running towards the Falcon match almost perfectly. Everyone walking straight towards camera is a really good match to the Falcon blasting off. It all looks good, except that none of the clouds matching the more CGI shots.

So my vote is to change Slave 1's background in all the shots, because the Falcon one's match fairly well.

Ramp arrive:

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/4620/esbdoorwaysw3.jpg

Ramp leave:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/6492/esbcloudcity3dw9.jpg

The ramp towards the city has the fancy CGI background that kind of matches the original matte, but as they leave its back to the matte. Maybe we could recolor the CGI to replace the matte as they're leaving.

Post: #321334
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321334/action/topic#321334
Time: 20-Jun-2008 9:33 PM

Darth Stewie said:

Hey doubleofive, how do you put pics in your post?

If you click the "Help" button on the top or bottom of the page, it lists the forum codes. I use Imageshack for hosting my pictures.

Post: #321330
Topic: So I was watching the AFI's 10 top 10 movies...
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321330/action/topic#321330
Time: 20-Jun-2008 9:23 PM

I actually noticed that the colors on AFI's special were A LOT better than the DVD's. That was weird.

Post: #321329
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321329/action/topic#321329
Time: 20-Jun-2008 9:09 PM — Edited 20-Jun-2008 9:15 PM

Just for Sevb, here's some more screenshots of Things I Never Noticed and One Thing I Have:

Like I said, the buildings don't match the other shot of the Falcon anyway. Too bad they're the same as Slave 1's also. Oh, and Slave one's clear cockpit got bluescreened all the way out. Maybe we could do something about that too.

I also can't wait to see the Falcon's "exhaust" being blue all of the time.

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/3886/esbcloudrefineru8.jpg

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/4776/esbcloudxwingst6.jpg

At least they recomposited Cloud City to make it different sizes.

And my personal favorite that I ran into while fast forwarding:

http://img49.imageshack.us/img49/8874/esbreflectionca5.jpg

Um, yeah. That's unfortunate.

I'm going to work with ImperialFighter on one of his concepts soon.

Post: #321328
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321328/action/topic#321328
Time: 20-Jun-2008 8:51 PM

Darth Stewie said:

Okay, here's me trying to swing you back again....... <AWESOMENESS>

Darn you Darth Stewie. Darn you to heck. I was watching the movie in fast forward to get those shots, I forgot about "What about those fighters?!" I guess we would need fighters then to make that make more sense. Why didn't you mention that before?!

I agree that it should be more than 3 fighters. But if the Falcon goes back to the City to pick up Luke, I guess no one notices them for a while because they went to the underside...

I love being in the middle of these debates, I wish I didn't switch sides so often. :-)

Can't wait to hear what Ady thinks after his daughter's prom.

Post: #321315
Topic: STAR WARS: EP V "REVISITED EDITION"ADYWAN - 12GB 1080p MP4 VERSION AVAILABLE NOW
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/321315/action/topic#321315
Time: 20-Jun-2008 4:52 PM — Edited 20-Jun-2008 4:55 PM

So, I took screenshots of 6 of the shots of Cloud City after Lando calls for the evacuation, the shots that could have some more ships.

1:

http://img504.imageshack.us/img504/4980/esbcloudcity1gb9.jpg

I like this shot, but we'd need to see glimpses of the window or lighting on her face as she's shooting back at the troopers. Also, maybe a couple more ships leaving if the shot is kept in it's post-SE state.

2:

Maybe a few ships leaving in the background.

3:

Maybe more ships in this shot since theoretically we are looking towards the center of the buildings.

4:

I think the same ships that were in shot 2 should still be trying to leave. And it looks like the buildings don't match very well with the previous shots, like they didn't SE this one.

5:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/2144/esbcloudcity5st9.jpg

The shot could be moved up so we could see teeny tiny ships leaving, but not too many as to be a swarm of flies... Maybe have the TIEs enter from the upper left side of the frame, tense up the scene a bit more.

6:

http://img246.imageshack.us/img246/3553/esbcloudcity7pu4.jpg

Now I think some ships could be getting shot at in the background.

And there's my Visual 5 Cents. So I think the TIEs should be brought in shortly after "Bring my shuttle" maybe like they were launched along with Vader's shuttle.