darthpreston

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Post: #162511
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162511/action/topic#162511
Time: 11-Dec-2005 3:59 PM

I'll just say real quick that the laura theme was very good........and it could work.........however I felt that the AOTC love theme had a more star wars feel to it. If the love theme from AOTC is used, will it be used in it's entirety? The soundtrack has alot of cool beats (very beginning and end) that are really nice and they arn't even in the final cut of the movie. But if there was a vote, i'd go for the AOTC love theme, that's the only sound memory I would like however. The rest of the soundtrack is sub-par. Just a thought.

Post: #162508
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162508/action/topic#162508
Time: 11-Dec-2005 3:53 PM

I forgot who thought of the idea, but trooperman reminded me about this:

Count Dooku/Tyranus as the dark cloaked figure in Episode 1:

I think you guys (InfoDroid, CC, MTHaslett) should think about this just for minute. For some reason this sounds like it has amazing potential in fleshing out the character of Count Dooku in a way no one could believe. You have plenty of evil dialoug to choose from in the LOTR movies, and several others with christopher lee. Considering you are changing the voice of the nemoidians this could open up an ENTIRELY written scene between the dark lord and the aliens. YOu could have whatever conversation you could concoct(sp?) together. All you would need to do is blacken over the face of the cloak and have him be entirely mysterious, but with the voice of christopher lee. If you tuned his voice down lower, with gargled transmission sound this could be pulled off easily.

Some would say, well that ruins the mystery of who count dooku is in ep.2............well no more than hearing ANY moment with darth sidious and realizing that he sounds like senator palpatine. But like Trooperman said, this would make Dooku far more interesting/important in his role with the sith, it makes Palpatines involvment at the end of Ep.2 as the emperor-like darth sidious more intruiging. I just wanted to see you guys comment on this issue........I think its an extrordinary idea. Just take a gander......

Post: #162354
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162354/action/topic#162354
Time: 10-Dec-2005 6:41 PM

The Maul=grevious debate is an intersting one. And to be honest, I really wish it had turned out that way in the prequels and we would have had good material to deal with. But Grevious was written and portrayed as a cyborg alien that has been maimed, and put back together to serve the droid armies of the confederacy (in the movies, of course). So, I just don't see enough good moments or ideas to make it happen seamlessly. Take it like this, if you had seen TPM and then grevious/maul was in ROTS giving the scenes that we had, then you would have been dissapointed that they waisted away the maul/grevious character again. I mean, we don't have any good reactions shots with obi wan for any of the scenes that he has with the general. On the ship deck in the beginning ben is just smirking while waiting for his moment to get into action......and then later on utapau he doesn't have ANY reaction shot that would be along the lines of " wait a minutes, YOU are the sith that killed qui gon, and I thought I had killed as well?" We just have "hello there" and "your move". It would just be pointless to watch grevious reveal himself as "maul" and not really have a constructive moment out of it.

I had a crazy idea a while ago that could work. If you wanted to keep the "sypho dyas" mystery in Ep.2 , then you could just have "grevious" become a mysterious jedi trained evil general that will later in the movie (utapau) be revealed as Master Sypho Dyas........a jedi who did the sidious' bidding and ordered the clones creation to help with the phony war. The more I think about it, this could be possible , for establishing a real character out of the general for the 3rd movie. You could even have him give obi wan some hint of how "everything is going to end for the jedi" right before the general takes the blaster shots to the chest. This kind of mirrors Count Dooku's character, of course, but I don't see whats wrong in showing how seductive the darkside is and how evil it makes even ex-jedi with the amount of corruption. Ok, it's just an idea, and I think you guys were going to throw out the "sypho dias" reference. But last I heard it was just going to be replaced with sidious or something. Well, if anybody read this, what do you think? Not a good idea? I just wanted to throw out another option to reestablish the character. The maul=grevious thing is cool , I just don't think it will work at all....not like I don't trust you guys though. Prove me wrong! I love this board...

Post: #162081
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/162081/action/topic#162081
Time: 9-Dec-2005 11:24 AM

I see that no one really noticed a post I made a page back about the DARTH GREVIOUS situation. I just don't see how this whole scenario can be played off realistically here is the post, I just wanted to see a good reason and a believable course to make these two characters one:

About this whole Darth Maul IS General Greivous combo:

I have not been sold on this at all yet. I still don't know why we can't have a darth maul in Ep.1 and another villian named General Grevious in III. I just don't see how you could make general grevious SEEM like he is suppose to be darth maul at all. I mean sure, you can mess with names, but how far does that really go? We could change anybodys names around, but the characters don't even move or act like each other. I always thought if you redubbed Grevious with a scarier taunts and a mean voice it would make his character have more intimidation. Someone else mentioned that if we "assumed" that maul survived being chopped in half, then it kind of comes off as cheesy, why did he not die? Are we to assume that if anybody is taken out in battle that they could still be alive? Did mace windue survive palpatines lighting? It just raises some inconsistancies IMO. Plus Grevious has obvious alien eyes and eyeline features. He runs away, he's hunched over and he seems less important to be walking around with droid armies. And if Maul is Grevious in Ep.1, then what did he do when he was found, alive, put together in a droid body.....and then just take up work as the general for the trade federations clone war? I just don't see the characters connecting at all. Maybe it could be pulled off, I just wanted to know how this could be done.

Don't get me wrong, I think it would have been cool if maul survived TPM and showed up again in ROTS to revenge his fight. And it is true, Grevious did not serve much puprose in the movie, but you could make his character seem more of a threat. He is kind of like Jabba in ROTJ, did we really need to go to his palace and watch nothing but him and his cronies for 30 minutes only to watch him dye and fade away? I think General Grevious is a cool character and was nicely expanded upon in the cartoon series, but I don't see why or how you can turn him into darth maul. Just a thought.

Post: #161730
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161730/action/topic#161730
Time: 8-Dec-2005 1:54 AM

I think that is a flawless edit of that scene , IMO. Good job Mathaslett.

Post: #161648
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161648/action/topic#161648
Time: 7-Dec-2005 8:01 PM

About this whole Darth Maul IS General Greivous combo:

I have not been sold on this at all yet. I still don't know why we can't have a darth maul in Ep.1 and another villian named General Grevious in III. I just don't see how you could make general grevious SEEM like he is suppose to be darth maul at all. I mean sure, you can mess with names, but how far does that really go? We could change anybodys names around, but the characters don't even move or act like each other. I always thought if you redubbed Grevious with a scarier taunts and a mean voice it would make his character have more intimidation. Someone else mentioned that if we "assumed" that maul survived being chopped in half, then it kind of comes off as cheesy, why did he not die? Are we to assume that if anybody is taken out in battle that they could still be alive? Did mace windue survive palpatines lighting? It just raises some inconsistancies IMO. Plus Grevious has obvious alien eyes and eyeline features. He runs away, he's hunched over and he seems less important to be walking around with droid armies. And if Maul is Grevious in Ep.1, then what did he do when he was found, alive, put together in a droid body.....and then just take up work as the general for the trade federations clone war? I just don't see the characters connecting at all. Maybe it could be pulled off, I just wanted to know how this could be done.

Don't get me wrong, I think it would have been cool if maul survived TPM and showed up again in ROTS to revenge his fight. And it is true, Grevious did not serve much puprose in the movie, but you could make his character seem more of a threat. He is kind of like Jabba in ROTJ, did we really need to go to his palace and watch nothing but him and his cronies for 30 minutes only to watch him dye and fade away? I think General Grevious is a cool character and was nicely expanded upon in the cartoon series, but I don't see why or how you can turn him into darth maul. Just a thought.

Post: #161320
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161320/action/topic#161320
Time: 7-Dec-2005 1:11 AM

Yeah, I just had to drop in real quick and say that the Neimodian voices are amazing!! Infodroid, I know that this edit is in good hands, nice job. It's funny, they actually sounded JUST as I wanted them to sound when I first saw the pictures of them before the movie came out. Nice, very nice! Exciting!

Post: #161104
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161104/action/topic#161104
Time: 6-Dec-2005 1:08 PM

I think if you tried to assume that lando and the falcon blew up on the DS II then you would DEFINATELY need a resolution scene for the loss of the character. But we don't have any footage of han talking about how brave lando was, or anybody even worrying about him at all. I just don't know how that could be accomplished. Oh, don't get me wrong, I wish that had happened in the original......but we were left with lando dancing and clapping all the way too the last shot. That's another thing, make the last shot of the movie iris out on the jedi spirits. I think that's a given, other than the "group picture" shot with the ewoks and everyone sipping on their endor beer. Just a thought.

Post: #161072
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/161072/action/topic#161072
Time: 6-Dec-2005 11:49 AM

For those of you who are thinking of alternative ROTJ plots, give this a read:

http://www.starwarz.com/starkiller/scripts/revenge_revised_rough_draft.htm

This is the original script for Revenge of the Jedi and it has a more serious tone and alternate plot points going on throughout the movie. It is a very intersting read of what "could" have been for ROTJ. I thought you guys could get some good ideas. And the radio dramas as well, didn't Billy Dee williams do the voice for lando? I know we have mark hamill and anthony daniels reprising their voice roles, so there is ALOT of new material to work with there.

Also , I posted a couple of pages back on the idea of changing the scene with Vader and the holo emperor in ESB to reveal something more intesting then: Luke skywalker is the son of Anakin.....no shit. I didn't see any comments on it, so I thought I would just remind everybody that that scene needs some "flavor" to it as well, considering it is the first time you see vader and the emperor together AT ALL. I think that the "saga" version is not having the Vader Born scene in Ep. III , so this will be the first time you ever see the two of them talking or in cahoots (I was looking for a chance to say that word). Any ideas? This discussion we are having is completely addictive. I love where the ROTJ edit is going, alot. Keep posting guys!

Post: #160850
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160850/action/topic#160850
Time: 5-Dec-2005 6:20 PM

Quick question for trooperman: Is there going to be a music theme for Jango Fett? I always thought that his presence demanded it's own musical cue, considering he has soo much action and screen time. AOTC only offers chopped up "action" music. Just curious.

Post: #160639
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/160639/action/topic#160639
Time: 5-Dec-2005 6:41 AM

Wow, you guys are coming up with some amazing alterations here. I thought I would throw out another topic of conversation to add to the Obi/ vader/luke connections. What could we do to make Vader/Emperor scene in ESB seem more intersting? Considering at this point in editing the saga we will probably have a buttload of extra dialouge from sidous after editing his presence in the prequels. This will be the first time in "ACT II" that we see anakin/vader and the old emperor linking up again, I think in retrospect of the saga this scene could be a little more interesting. You could change the whole topic of the conversation perhaps. Should the emperor be revealing that luke is the son of anakin at this point in the saga? If he's already aware of the boy and his last name by the end of ANH (as the movie suggest), then the scene has a pointless vibe to it. But watching these in order, this would be a scene you would have been waiting for ALL during Episode IV, and there are no clues as to what the Vader/Emperor relationship is like during the whole flick. If I saw these in order I would be REALLY interested to know what they were going to talk about when I saw the scene unfold. So I was just curious to see anybody's ideas on how to change that scene, cause it will be up for an alteration come editting time. Blasted, i'm having fun in this thread!

Post: #159919
Topic: The legendary "Starkiller Ranch" Thread
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/159919/action/topic#159919
Time: 1-Dec-2005 11:09 PM

Oh god and I thought I was having fun in the SOTDS thread. I couldn't help but jump in and start talking about how to make Return of the Jedi a serious film.

-I think the first thing to do would be to re-establish han solo as the character he is in 4 and 5 which is, a badass. This may be a little tough, ole harrison ford supplied us with a lot of goofy faces and silly deliveries. But I think that the proper editting could sharpen him into the han that doesn't talk his head off.

-Perhaps some of jabbas palace could be clipped (although it is a real favorite star wars adventure of mine).

-I think one element that could use an overhaul would be the ewoks. How would we make them more serious? Perhaps if we took away the little chirps and woots and added some growls or creepy sounds would be a nice replacement. Although I love the music of the old trilogy, I could be up for giving the ewoks a different theme. THe original , like the ewoks themselves, is just kind of playful sounding and circus-y. Give them a warrior theme like Connan the barbarian or perhaps a cool track off of the Shadows of the Empire soundtrack. I mentioned in another thread that if you had the effects to add blinking eyelids to them it would flesh out those costumes a little more. But there is potential to make the ewoks redeemable in my book with some "changes" here and there. Another neat idea would be to add some clips from the ewok movies and throw some widescreen bars on them to add more action scenes with the ewoks. I think it was the Battle for endor movie that showed ewoks fighting with blasters, Thats what we need!

So anyway, thought we could have some discussion on how to fix ROTJ, i've actually been thinking of this before the prequels came out. Oh and of course there's the idea that Magnolia fan had about adding the "birth of vader" scene from episode 3 as a flashback while vader and luke are talking on the walkway on endor. Superb idea. Any thoughts, suggestions?

I know this thread is suppose to be about a different ANH version, but since we're trying to catalouge ideas for a "saga" I thought this would be appropriate.

Post: #158850
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158850/action/topic#158850
Time: 28-Nov-2005 9:59 PM

Just to add in a real quick idea for "fixin up" ROTJ. I always thought if you had the ewok creatures actually BLINK their eyelids it would make the creatures more believable and perhaps a little creepier (or maybe it's no blinking which is creepy). Anyhow, if people have the ability to add in such simple effects to the shots, it may improve the performance of the ewoks. Just an idea. Continue!

Post: #158761
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/158761/action/topic#158761
Time: 28-Nov-2005 6:38 PM

Wow, there has been soo much discussion on this thread in the last 4 days, I'M LOVIN' IT! It's very interesting to start reading everyones interpretations of editting episode I to match SOTDS and the episode III edit. I too would love to see a HUGE overhaul done to 1 and 3, just as much as is being done on SOTDS. I can't wait till we have a proper discussion thread for this so I can throw out some neat changes I had in mind for episode 1. And SOTDS just gets my imagination running (good ole star wars) as to what can be done to make the other prequels into movies that stand on their own. Reading Troopermans recent ideas for episode 1 are interesting. I think i'm with commander courage however, it does feel a little too lotr-esque to have the prolouge at the beginning. But thats just my opinion, it may work. With some of the ideas floating around, however, we can still make episode 1 into an amazing movie with added lighting, dialouge, effects changes, alternate scenes, and of course a COMPLETE remake of the soundtrack would evolve the movie into a MONSTER of a flick. The episode 1 we all wanted to see (based on TPM characters and rough plot).

Whew, this thread is just exciting now. Hey TM, I know that your probably busy, but I was just curious as to when you would think of putting together a trailer for SOTDS? I couldn't think of anything more to wet my appetite and was just curious. Everybody has got some amazing ideas flowing around here, keep em coming!

Post: #157794
Topic: If the O-OT ever came out, the future of SW is with the PT fans.
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157794/action/topic#157794
Time: 24-Nov-2005 5:21 PM

Hmmm, there were all kinds of girls in the 70's who were real obsessed with Skywalker (Hamill) and Han (Ford). You've seen the pictures in the lockers and all of that stuff. But the girls were more into the "hottness" of the actors during the time. So the mess with Haden is nothing new at all to the star wars universe. But never-the-less it does feel annoying to male fans I suppose.

Post: #157788
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157788/action/topic#157788
Time: 24-Nov-2005 5:09 PM

Nice update TM, and don't worry , we'll be here all the way through this thing. Participating in this edit is the most productive thing I am doing on the internet right now. I'm really giddy with the thought of watching "episode II" and walking away with a sense of proper ranking with the other star wars films. Good luck and happy thanksgiving.

Also, I look forward to your review of the other edits!

Post: #157293
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/157293/action/topic#157293
Time: 22-Nov-2005 5:08 PM

I don't know if anybody has mentioned this before, so I thought I would throw it out. Have we thought about using any dialouge of Christopher Lee from the LOTR trilogy? He says plenty of raspy, evil things in those movies and surely there is enough to add extra dialouge to count dooku, maybe even enough to threaten anakin before the fight. Are there any super LOTR fans in here that could think of some of his dialouge that would work for star wars? Just a thought.

Post: #156245
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/156245/action/topic#156245
Time: 18-Nov-2005 12:37 PM

"ANAKIN (V.O.): I'm not afraid to die... but I can never lose you again."

Wow, I can honestly say that would give me chills! And a real neat line to end the movie out on. Good suggestion.

Post: #155761
Topic: Episode 3: Fan Editing Ideas Discussion
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155761/action/topic#155761
Time: 16-Nov-2005 8:01 PM

No offense Rebel Scumb, but if you take out soo much of the end, doesn't it make the 3rd act of ROTS quite emotion-LESS? I just think that if you cut out all of the one on one dialog, there's not much to connect to except some flashing action. Just curious.

Post: #155750
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155750/action/topic#155750
Time: 16-Nov-2005 7:39 PM

I'd just like to go ahead and support this idea of keeping padme unconscience until the clone gets her after the dooku battle. I thought it sound weird at first, but the more I thought about it, the more fitting it will look. Good idea.

Post: #155458
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/155458/action/topic#155458
Time: 15-Nov-2005 6:58 PM

Well, since your tightening up on your editting plot, I thought I would throw in a couple of little ideas I had.

First, the scene where anakin is talking with watto in mos espa. At the end of the conversation, as you know, anakin intimidates watto into cutting the crap by puffing his face and say "i'd like to know". I thought what would be cooler is if you had anakin look at watto and then say something along the lines of " if you don't tell me , i'll tear both of those wings right off", THEN have the shot of padme looking from watto to anakin and then cut to watto's reaction of "sure , ah sure, lets go look at my records". If you get my meaning it should be something kind of funny......but in a "don't piss anakin off" sort of comedy. Just a thought.

Second, the scene where anakin is fighting dooku and gets his arm cutt off.......I remember watching in the theaters and thinking it was an awkward cut because anakin hardly made a groan. Since your doing the adr, maybe you could throw in a nice painful yell (similar to luke in ESB) to give the scene more of a shock effect. Maybe have the music effect the action as well with something creepy. Doing this would easily give the viewer the surprise of going " holy crap ani just got his army cut off".

I actually have a ton of ideas for further editting Episode One and three, but I'll have to save those for another day, namely whenever you decide to take those projects on. And finally, those shots of the outlander club with the creepier residents is a very nice step forward for that scene as well. Good luck trooper!

Post: #128185
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/128185/action/topic#128185
Time: 6-Aug-2005 12:59 PM

Ah very exciting. I was wondering if, when you have time, you could post a video clip of some altering you have done WITH your new anakin ADR? I just feel that the more that I get use to your voice as anakin, the less shock I will have when watching Hayden, but hearing someone else. Good luck on your work!

Preston

Post: #127137
Topic: Star Wars TV Update
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/127137/action/topic#127137
Time: 2-Aug-2005 5:33 AM

Well, I thought I would add that nothing has been "confirmed" on this whole issue. The source arrived from that website and everyone else has just been repeated and reposting what they read from that. There is no more star wars news these days after the coming and going of revenge of the sith and I think everyone is just trying to come up with some news, ANY news just fill in some star wars junk. So therefore, we really don't know for sure if Lucas will direct the series, if it has been post-poned for soo long, who will be in it, or what the hell the plot is even centered around. Anyway, i'm just saying that getting all upset and pouty now is just self infliction of pain. Now , don't get me wrong, I'm just like the rest of you guys......I think the prequels could have been a different experience all together and I wish we had the O OT on dvd. But I love the fact that star wars will continue on from here, no matter what format. And the way some of you guys refer to Lucas as such a money grubbing star wars murderer...........well i don't even think it merrits a retort, its just ridiculous. But don't flame me for gods sakes, i'm just voicing my opinion as you all are as well.....and I still respect everyones opinion by the way. I'm just saying this tv show could have potential to be something cool, but even if it is you guys are going to hate it anyway because you have had a vengence going for 3 years before it is conceived. Just my thoughts.

Preston

Post: #126388
Topic: Episode II: Shroud of the Dark Side (the TM edit) (Released)
Link: https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/126388/action/topic#126388
Time: 29-Jul-2005 4:52 PM

Hey guys, first time poster but LONG time reader on these boards. I have been addicted to this site since I ran across Magfan's edits several months ago and have also been keeping up to date on all the edits that are being conducted now. Of course, troopermans edits have the most potential to be very successful in re-interpreting the prequel movies.

I know that the subject has already been discussed but I must clarify that I can't wait to see these movies with more enticing sound and music. I think to successfully make these movies stand up to par with the classic trilory, then the entire scores should be redone. I know that trooperman is doing this with his edit, but even taking what good music was there and turning it up a bit so that it is not soo buried in the audio tracks would have more of a star wars flow to it. It will also help with all the cutting of clips and swapping them around to have the music retracked and flowing smoothly through the newly editted scenes. This I think is going to help all the editting flow into a seamless "new" Episode II. There's actually alot of good acting moments in the prequel trilogy that could be especially punctuated if the music had been more emotional or even up to a decent feeling in the mix. I would also do away with alot of the "spliced" sound mixes that are all over episodes I and II. The jango fight and the arena battle tracks are all soo bouncy that it made everything seem kinda "dopey dopey" and not nearly as dynamic (just my opinion). But anyway, I just wanted to drop myself in and send my support to you guys on these projects.

Also, just to boot up the conversation a bit:
Many of you guys have been "working" with trooperman and have proved that an amazing star wars movie lies beneath Episode II:attack of the clones with a change of music, editting, ADR and some character flow. Now, i think that the same could/ and should be done for episodes I and III. And by that I mean a total overhaul similar to the work being done to Shroud of the Dark Side. I was wondering if anybody had any good ideas on how to change the character development, pacing, music, or even ADR of The Phantom Menace? And although Revenge of the Sith was a very good star wars prequel, I wouldn't show it any mercy either. I have a few ideas popping around my head but was wondering how others on this forum would re-construct Episodes I and III. Thanks for your time fellas and I look forward to taking part in the conversation now.