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Well I like it.
Well I like it.
darthpreston
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Well I like it.
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By the way, I know you guys are going for titling this Star Wars. Although I understand your reasoning for it, I don't think that it makes a whole lot of sense when we are purposefully making this Pt. 1 of a saga. It's almost as if trying to fool people into thinking it was the first one to come out, and then all the sequels came after it. I dont know.........i'm a fan of Star wars episode one: The Chosen One. It's simple and entirely effective. I can't believe that you are coming up with such interesting shots Mthasslet, this is a very good cut so far. I'm getting nervous as we get to the darth maul scenes.........i'm not quite on the Maul=Grevious band wagon. I know you guys have already decided to go forward with it, but i'm having a hard time putting the characters together, no matter what the dialouge. But anyway, good luck with the next update!
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-Just wanted to bring up a question for the scene of the queen and her crew being "escorted" to who knows where. Should we really use the idea of Nute "processing them"? That always felt really weak to me, what kind of clever and evil bad guy commands someone to be "processed". What does that mean? Turn in your I.D. ? Get a new prisoner uniform? In MagFans edit, as we all know, he changed it to where Nutes commands the droid commander to "shoot her friends". Although the line could use a change, I like the idea of something bad about to happen to them. It would give you sense of "oh no, the jedi need to hurry up and get here". Before there was no tension at all in watching them be "processed" , which I guess is just escorting them to a prison cell. Now, to make the line "shoot her compainions" as Magfan did would create one problem that I had with the alteration: No one reacts AT ALL to such a statement. So what could the line be? Think about it.....
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Originally posted by: tjdavis1138
I agree we need to calm down some of it, but the problem with making him Billy bad ass is his actions and facial expressions say, "I'm an idiot."
Why do we have to stick with the idea of him being banished for clumsiness?
I agree we need to calm down some of it, but the problem with making him Billy bad ass is his actions and facial expressions say, "I'm an idiot."
Thats a pretty good point TJ........perhaps Jar Jar can make the accusation that they banished him because he's not like any of the others. So instead of him being ridiculed for clumsiness, he is more or less ridiculed because he is obviously weird and not like any of the other gungans. I got to thinking about the battle that the gungans have at the end........does it make any sense in the world to promote the local town weirdo to the general of their army? Even above the Cpt. Tarpalas character? Perhaps we'll need to alter that situation as well. I think it would be cool if Jar jar simply volunteers to fight in the battle and boss nass agrees to send him to the front lines. I know that's moving a little far ahead, but to me the Jar jar character is extremely flawed and this is our oppurtunity to work him into a character that doesn't ruin the movie (as many people have claimed). Thoughts?
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Mthaslett wrote:
"Ext. Naboo, establishing-- cut away before Bongo surfaces. THen Nute marches the queen. Still hear muted Explosions, lasers and Screams. Nute orders the Queen "processed" and they march her away -- outside, down the street -- as long as we can make it seem WITHOUT cutting to the Jedi. We can still hear distant sounds of Battle. Then, just when it looks like no one can help, we see the Jedi heads pop into frame and they leap down from the walkway to devestate the droids and save teh PRincess. With the sounds of a war in the background it makes the Jedi attack feel like there's anger that they wish they could do more."
-Just wanted to bring up a question for the scene of the queen and her crew being "escorted" to who knows where. Should we really use the idea of Nute "processing them"? That always felt really weak to me, what kind of clever and evil bad guy commands someone to be "processed". What does that mean? Turn in your I.D. ? Get a new prisoner uniform? In MagFans edit, as we all know, he changed it to where Nutes commands the droid commander to "shoot her friends". Although the line could use a change, I like the idea of something bad about to happen to them. It would give you sense of "oh no, the jedi need to hurry up and get here". Before there was no tension at all in watching them be "processed" , which I guess is just escorting them to a prison cell. Now, to make the line "shoot her compainions" as Magfan did would create one problem that I had with the alteration: No one reacts AT ALL to such a statement. So what could the line be? Think about it.....
-I love all of your ideas , (mthaslett,CC, Infodroid) of incorporating new music into certain spots of the saga. I almost wish I had the capability to do my own edits so that I could have all the music correctly fitted with my interpretation. But it is more useful giving you guys suggestions and hoping something is picked up. I'll be on this board for a long time, and I can't wait till we hit Return of the Jedi. BUT, back to Episode 1.
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Has anybody starting considering how to arrange the soundtrack for this edit? I don't know about everyone else, but i'm all for dumping the "trade federation march" theme from the prequels. I know that it sounds outrageous to some, but I got bored with it after Episode 1, and then they continued to have it in 2 and 3. But it had random association in all the originals. In TPM it was obviously the droid army, in Ep.2 it was the clone army, then in Ep.3 it was the clones fighting the droids.........so if what they were going for was "Clone War" music, then I would have rather had something more epic. That's just my opinion. There are PLENTY of amazing tracks on the Shadows of the Empire soundtrack and I'm sure TrooperMan has a catalouge of music that should be good enough to stand in with Williams score. But I think there should be new themes for BossNass/Gungans, Naboo panaramic shots, Coruscant, and especially Tatooine. If you can re-score 90% of the movie, then you will have easier ways of blending cuts together and the swipes from scene to scene. Soo much of TPM score just seemed bland.........I know that there are alot of subtle tracks on the OOT soundtracks, but TPM sounds soo "bright" and "happy" and I believe you guys are trying to make a darker version of Ep.1. But ANYWAY, I agree with Mthaslett, we should think of uses pieces of Duel of the Fates to sprinkle around the plot and see how it turns out. Imagine back before the movie came out, and you were listening to the soundtrack when it came out...........weren't you imagining something soo GRAND when you were hearing the music? One thing I have to say about ALL of the prequels is that they didn't use the actual soundtracks to the best of their potential. I think that even ROTS didn't use its musical cues appropriately. Questions? Comments?
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By the way, these script revisions are fantastic, you guys are doing a great job shaping this movie up. I'm also with Trooperman on possibly keeping "Darth Maul" as opposed to "Darth Grevious". And the jourey said.........
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Wow, you can't be serious......I nearly choked on my drink laughing at that. That is really sad, I hope , hope that you were joking. That's like saying I would never want to own a Darth Vader (OT) lightsaber because it killed obi-wan and cut off lukes hand, silly. Ok, i'm sorry back to discussion, that was just wrong.
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-It does deserve a title
-Deciding a good one is part of the fun, something GL took for granted.
-You should stay away from an "OF THE" title. Ya know, Return OF THE Jedi, Revenge OF THE sith, Balance OF THE force, Shroud OF THE darkside......and those are films and edits we already have. I just think it's too easy to have an OF THE title, your just thinking of two star wars like words to back both ends up....
- A new Hope and The Empire strikes back already tell us we don't need to have an "of the" title to have a good one. And I think The Phantom Menace was a great title, we all just have a bad association with it due to the film. Attack of the Clones: I think we all were a little stumped on that one and I would have liked it better if it were THE Attack of the Clones instead. But oh well....
Some titles I have thought of:
Enter the Dark Path (not really related to EP.1)
Enter the Forbidden Path
A New Revelation
Quest for Freedom (would help with all the slave issues)
Choice of Destiny
A Threat from Within
None of these are great, just old ideas and I was trying to think of something more than "OF THE" titles.......which we could all spend all day listing, it's really that easy. And maybe because it is soo easy we will have to go the way of the "OF THE" title. But we don't do things the easy way in here ,do we? Just some thoughts....
P.S. By the way I like "The Chosen One" alot, it would help a beginner to the saga understand right off the bat what they are looking for. However, it does put all the emphasis on Anakin as opposed to the Qui-Gon / Invasion attention we are creating. Very interstin though.
Oh and MTHaslett, OUTSTANDING synopsis, can't wait to see this thing fleshed out, good job guys!
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Yes, your Gungan idea is a tempting one darthpreston, but in the end I think it's cutting too much, and ruins the dynamic between Jar-Jar, the Jedi, and the other Gungans for later in the film. The flow of the scenes as you outlined does indeed work, but I think if we're to reinvent the Gungans, we need that material to work with.
I see your point, but I still don't see how much connection we get from those scenes in the underwater city. I think it would be important to re-establish the character of jar jar as a hopeless adventurer who needs to stay home in the first place. But if you keep all of the gungan city scenes, then your re-introducing the silly plot of jar jar being banished for "clumsyness" and seeing him imprisoned, then later to be freed by qui gon (through jedi mind trick no less) to take jar jar along. There is also a weird vibe going on with obi wan in this scene where he is annoyed to be taken on a pathetic, stupid creature and later points out anakin as a "pathetic lifeform"...............I just always considered obiwan to be a student that tries as hard as he can to be a good apprentice and a jedi. Well, a jedi really shouldn't go around complaining about "pathetic lifeforms", they respect all forms of life. But the whole gungan city is just really, shiny, smooth and cartoony for my taste. I don't see what character development we get from jar jar, quigon or the gungans from these scenes (at least nothing we could not get from their scene later in the movie). Besides, we need to get to the point of the movie, which now is a story of Qui Gon running into anakin and their relationship, the nemoidian fleet and their invasion, and whatever we can do with amidala's story. But that's just my opinion, i could be wrong.
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The underwater sequences: Again I really don't see what information is gained from any scenes the moment they dive underwater to the moment they come out on the other side. They dive to meet the gungans, get no help at all from the boss nass, decide to have a talk about keeping jar jar, qui gon takes jar jar, obi wan looks annoyed, they go through not one, not two, but THREE encounters with fish monsters of various sizes. And all the same time you have to make some sort of a decent conversation with obi wan and jar jar about why he was banished. Then we finally get to the surface, and in some edits we have a waterfall sequence.
That, to me, is just a waisted half hour of a star wars movie. It's like a comic book one-shot story. Qui and Obi's journey into the naboo sea! It just doesn't need to be there and i'll tell you why:
We can establish who jar jar is and what he is doing with his conversation with qui and obi when he runs into them in the forest. While he is chasing qui gon he could say
cut out "are you brainless"
Jar Jar: Are you a warrior? Are you on a journey? Let me come with you.
Qui Gon: you almost got (cut "us") killed.
Jar Jar: I know I need a little practice, but you could use my help...
Qui Gon : that won't be necessary
Jar Jar: Look, i'll do whatever you say .....
Qui Gon: GET DOWN!
jar jar jumps to the ground
quigon takes out the staps
jar jar getting up
Jar Jar: like I said i'll do whatever you say
Obi Wan: whats this?
Qui Gon : a local, now lets get out of here before more of those droids arrive.
Jar Jar: Hey! what are these droids here for anyway?
jar jar runs to catch up
Jar Jar: Look if there is going to be a fight, we need to go to the naboo city...
The two stop and look at each other
Qui-Gon: a city?
(close up of qui gon) Can you take us there?
then cut to the next scene
I know this may sound ebrupt, but if you cut to the assault on the naboo city it sure would be things in perspective as far as the time line goes.......I mean the Jedi spend ALOT of time lurking around in the water, and I don't see why the trade federation landed so damn far away. They jammed their frequencies anyway, this would make it appear that they landed on the outskirts, the jedi followed jar jar to the back door of the city, and the neimoidians are invading the city, then by the time the jedi appear the queen and her entrouge are being escorted to their selected executions. Wa-bam, that's a nice flow to me. The underwanter sequences are just pointless. We can be introduced to Boss and and whatever problems the gungans have in the meeting at the swamp before the battle. I'm gonig to take a gander and re-doing that scene in written form here soon. Comments?
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If we decide to keep the scene with the gang confronting Boss Nass in the woods (queen reveal scene), would you guys like me to try an attempt of re-writing this scene with different dialouge, music and editting reactions? This is the one scene that made me sick when I first saw it.....but if we need it for plot reasons, then I would love to have a shot at it.
Having fun!
p.s. Could one of you PM me information on what equipment it takes to dub voice track, alter voice track and then send it to someone over email? I'm a little in the dark on this but would love to help out. I actually sent in some voice work to lucasfilm company in 2000, of course , I got no reply. But hey , that doesn't say anything!
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Just for the start of the movie:
-Slow down the shot of the ship landing and the doids turning around. Adding to it some real neat "sweeping" star wars like music would be a neat way to open up this space opera saga. I just thinking it would look better marveling at the ship docking the trade fed. ship with nice music.
-redoing the lightsabre effect sounds will go a long way as well. They sound too quite in the PT as opposed to the CT where they have unique start up ignigitions and hums. I would try slowing down the shot of the them igniting their sabres from the gas filled room. Maybe treat it like it's a tense moment "are they alive?" then one, then the other lightsaber come on.
-I have an idea of replacing the trade federation music with Xizor's theme from the Shadow's of the Empire soundtrack. It is an amazing piece and would work for a better "feel" of the trade federation. I know that the original music isn't that bad, however we've heard it all over all three of the original prequels and if we replace it , it would help bring a new look and sound to the scenes. If you have the soundtrack , give it a listen and tell me what you think.
-I would suggest cutting out the ENTIRE underwater sequence. It has no point to it all other than some random action. I would suggest having jar jar mention to them a city of humans on the side of the forest..... then qui-gon says "A city? Can you take us there"....Jar Jar in his excitement sayd "Sure, I know a secret route, this way!"...............Then bam, they end up at Theed. For gods sakes we need to make jar jar a helpful character, one that they seriously owe some debt to.
-While the jedi are ready to pounce on the "extermination droids" while they are marching through the city: If we could have qui-gon say a line similar to "they'll all be killed, let's go" while his back is turned, this might add some more tensity to the situation the queens group getting blasted to death. I was also thinking of having jar jar warn obi won or qui gon during a battle to "watch out behind you" and have them strike a battle droid. This again, will show how jar jar is helping the best he can in this situation.
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Now, i'm totally with you guys, i'm up for fleshing out whatver stories come in to the board.....and I love EVERYBODYS ideas. I even really love the Maul=Grevious idea, but I also think it is impossible to pull off. In my opinion there is nothing wrong with having Maul and Grevious two different characters in the prequel trilogy. I mean, I just don't feel like everyone has to connect or flow in and out of each prequel. Especially because Ep.2 is 10 years after the ep.1. Like I have said before each movie of the old trilogy introduced new characters to us: Empire had lando, boba fett, bounty hunters, rebel commanders, different ships.... and of course Return of the Jedi had jabba (although mentioned in Ep.5) , general reikan, different imperial officers........granted there are no HUGE characters hopping in and out.
My idea (i'm sure it's not popular) would be to have Grevious reveal himself to be Master Sypho Dias (unresolved mystery of AOTC) and there are plenty of ways to make that a believable sub plot and an interesting one at that. I also like the character and mystique of Darth Maul soo much that I feel if his character need only expanded upon a bit (extra dialouge and re-arranging) it would add the justification to his character. I also hate the idea of him being called Grevious all throughout ep.1, the name Darth maul is just more captivating to me. Lucas once said that the 3 bad guys of the prequels all symbalized what would become darth vader in the end: Maul was aggresive and pure evil, Dooku/tyranus was sensible yet powerful and intimidating, and Grevious of course was a strong warrior built into a half living, half cyborg freak. And to be honest I don't see what is wrong with this analogy at all.
But without having any extra dialouge from sidious (non transmission garble), extra footage of dooku standing around a dark room, or any footage of grevious being constructed or EVEN a closeup of his face as his eyes open.......we don't have any of this footage, and we can't create it out of thin air........I'm just wondering where the conversation is going on these scenes that don't exist. Alright , that's just my opinion for right now, i'm sure i'll add some more later, if you don't mind. By the way, all you guys are BRILLIANT, GENIUS! Just thought i'd let you know, keep up the conversation!
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Fellowship of the Ring:extended cut
-You are sure of this?
-So the Ring of Power has been found
-And yet you did not have the wit to see it. Your love of the halfling's leaf has clearly slowed your mind.
-Time? What time do you think we have?
-Sauron has regained much of his former strength. He cannot yet take physical form, but his spirit has lost none of its potency. Concealed within his fortress the Lord of Mordor sees all. His gaze pierces cloud, shadow, earth and flesh. You know of what I speak, Gandalf. A great eye, lidless, wreathed in flame.
-He is gathering all evil to him. Very soon he will summon an army great enough to launch an assault upon Middle-earth.
-I have seen it.
-Why? Why should we fear to use it?
-The hour is later than you think. Sauron's forces are already moving. The Nine have left Minas Morgul.
-They will find the Ring, and kill the one who carries it.
-You did not seriously think that a hobbit could contend with the will of Sauron? There are none who can. Against the power of Mordor there can be no victory. We must join with him, Gandalf. We must join with Sauron. It would be wise, my friend.
-I offered you the choice of aiding me willingly, but you have elected the way of pain!
-We have work to do.
-Rip them all down.
-So, Gandalf, you try to lead them over Caradhras. And if that fails? Where then will you go? If the mountain defeats you, will you risk a more dangerous road?
- Do you know how orcs first came into being? They were elves once, taken by the dark powers, tortured, and mutilated. A ruined and terrible form of life. And now perfected, my fighting Uruk- Hai. Whom do you serve?
-Hunt them down. Do not stop until they are found. You do not know pain, you do not know fear, you will taste man-flesh!
One of the halflings carries something of great value. Bring them to me alive, and unspoiled, Kill the others.
The Two towers: extended cut
-The old world will burn in the fires of industry. The forests will fall. A new order will rise. We will drive the machine of war with the sword and the spear and the iron fist of the Orc.
-Swear it.
-Take back the lands they stole from you. Burn every village! We have only to remove those who oppose us. It will begin in Rohan. Too long have these peasants stood against you. But no more.
-Rohan, my lord, is ready to fall
- Gandalf the fool! Does he seek to humble me with his newfound piety?
-The line was broken years ago. It matters not. The world of men shall fall. It will begin at Edoras.
-A new power is rising. It's victory is at hand. This night the land will be stained with the blood of Rohan! March to Helm's Deep! Leave none alive! To war! There will be no dawn for Men.
Return of the King: extended cut
-You have fought many wars and slain many men, Th?oden King... and made peace afterwards. Can we not take counsel together as we once did, my old friend? Can we not have peace, you and I?
-So you have come here for information. I have some for you. Something festers in the heart of Middle-Earth. Something that you have failed to see. But the Great Eye has seen it. Even now he presses his advantage. His attack will come soon. You're all going to die. But you know this, don't you, Gandalf? You cannot think that this Ranger will ever sit upon the throne of Gondor. This exile, crept from the shadows, will never be crowned king. Gandalf does not hesitate to sacrifice those closest to him... those he professes to love. Tell me, what words of comfort did you give the Halfling before you sent him to his doom? The path that you have set him on can only lead to death.
-Save your pity and your mercy. I have no use for it!
-Free? He will never be free.
-You withdraw your guard, and I will tell you where your doom will be decided. I will not be held prisoner here
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-Fortunately, I can do a very comparable impression of darth maul from TPM, i've had alot of fun with that one. However, i'm not familiar with what equipment I can record with and how to download/send it to someone.
-I threw in the idea of maul striking the force field to show how his anger was making him impatient to fight and kill obi wan, kind of like he's having a rush from killing qui gon. I wasn't intending for it to be at the beginning of the "force field" however.
-Perhaps the dooku/sidious swap is a bit of a stretch, I still think it would make for an interesting direction, but would probably not flow with the version TM is making, and I understand that we are editting around his basic direction of ep.2.
-About Jar jars voice: The only thing that feels kind of "un starwars-like" in magfan's Balance of the Force is the fact that way too many characters are dubbed and your forced to read a majority of the movie as opposed to watching it and being able to concentrate on the characters instead of sentence after sentence popping on and off. I can still work, but should we question whether or not we need soo many alien voices? We have jar jar, boss nass, all the gungans (ie. tarpalas) , occasional watto dialouge, all the nemoidian scenes......did I miss any? That is how BOTF is and I love the movie, don't get me wrong, but if I were doing it over again, I would think about at least giving the gungans english dialect. I understand, though, that would require a redubbing of every gungan character.......but hey you could grab other voices from different movies and garble the audio to sound differently than the original.
I don't think jedi have been portrayed as knowning every language, or being able to sense what every creature is saying......so I wonder how quigon and obiwan know how to interpret gungan language.........it's even a planet they have never been to. Thoughts?
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An idea I had for quigons death scene:
-Darth Maul spins and makes the stab to his chest
-obi-wan screams NOO
-through obi wans "NOO" cut to scene of ankin in the space battle (there's a shot in the original where he makes a real mouth-opened , wide-eyed look as some fighters are coming at him). Take this shot and slow it down while playing the slow version of "the force" theme. Similar to the one during the lars' death scene in ANH.
-then cut to close up shot of quigon still standing in pain
-cut to shot of darth maul pulling out saber and spinning to face obi wan
-shot of obi wan staring with teeth gritting
-cut to shot of darth maul hitting the energy field with his lightsabre (take from earlier reference, works more violently in this situation to me)
- shot of obi wan looking at qui gon
- shot of darth maul pacing and smirking at obi wan
If your re-dubbing darth maul or grevious or whatever he'll be, then you could possibly add in some lines towards obi wan. I can't think of anything genius right now, but the potential is there.
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There are some good shots of Cpt. Tarpulus and Jar jar that could be expanded upon. Especially before the battle, you could make a nice bonding moment where jar jar can say that he is proud to fight and possibly die for his people......then tarpalus can show equal gratitude in respect. Then there is the issue of cutting out all foul ups during the battle and portraying jar jar as a gungun warrior in the face of danger.
Perhaps you can give him a personality of someone who is outcast from society BUT ALSO is longing for adventure and travel. Have him bug the jedi at the beginning that he wants to follow them and possibly leave the planet. He wants to see what the universe looks like.....then of course with all the mess on tatooine, coruscant and space battles would make jar jar realize how much he liked being home with his people. I guess this would accomplished, as usual, by proper dialouge, voice over and editting to match the reactions of the human actors.
This could make the viewer sympathize with the creature, as this is suppose to be the FIRST introduction to the star wars unvierse....the audience WILL be jar jar: wanting to go through the adventure , not knowing what the universe looks like, not knowing all the details of the plot. Although I am wondering what trooperman is doing with jar jar for his ep.2 edit. Just a though.