crissrudd4554

The day Lucas stopped listening to his fans, whenever that was

I'd like to do something like this but for the 1992 tapes. I think attempts have been made at this but I'd like to really do a good job with it. I just need a good wide scan of the ANH artwork (one that shows Vader's complete helmet and not with the corner cut off), the ROTJ artwork with small Lando (if one of you who posted it earlier would like to repost again that would be nice) and nice scans of the back cover collages.

I agree. I was exposed to the originals first so I prefer those.

DuracellEnergizer said:

crissrudd4554 said:

Also I personally prefer Yub Nub compared to the new song but I do agree that the new song fits the scene better.

I don't see how that's possible when the instrumentation of "Victory Celebration" doesn't even line up with the Ewoks' motions.

Well I was referring more to the mood of the scene. Although to be fair Yub Nub is really more of a song you'd expect to hear at a celebration held in an ewok village anyways so what do I know?

In regards to the sarlaac, I don't mind the CGI tentacles so much but the CGI beak has got to go. Sorry it looks ridiculous. Also I personally prefer Yub Nub compared to the new song but I do agree that the new song fits the scene better.

I actually have a few questions regarding E.T. Bare with me if this post is long since there's a lot to explain. I know that the 2012 BluRay/DVD of E.T. is the theatrical cut, but it still uses a remixed soundtrack that features new sound effects that were added for the 2002 enhanced version. When both cuts were released on DVD in 2002 the DVD of the original cut still featured a few of these new additions. This includes the effects that were added for the new digital shot of E.T. hopping to his feet and walking toward the town after he realizes he's been left behind which is followed by the sound of birds flopping away (I dont even think there were birds in the shot, its been a while since I saw the 2002 film) and radio static as the feds and Mary rush to the abandoned van. There's probably a few others as well but those pop to mind. None of my VHS copies of the theatrical E.T. has these so I know its lifted from the 2002 soundtrack. The 2012 version removes the static but the sound of E.T. hopping to his feet followed by the non-existent birds flopping away remains. This just looks and sounds out of place with the original scene. Also I know that the none of the VHS versions have Mary's full line where she tells Michael he's not dressing as a terrorist. Anyways someone on another site mentioned the BluRay edition has a 2.0 mix and says its sounds identical to the original. I dont have a BluRay player so I can't check this for myself. Im just curious if anyone here had the E.T. BluRay and wanted to compare the 7.1 track to the 2.0 track?? I only have the 2002 and 2012 DVDs which only has the film in 5.1.

Yep I would go with Harmy's version if you're able to obtain it. It's anamorphic widescreen and about as close as you'll ever get to an HD version of the original film.

Well I view it 3 ways. You have fans who prefer the OUT, fans who prefer the SE (any of them), and fans who aren't concerned otherwise and will watch the film's regardless of what versions they are. When you break it down the real battle is only between the first two groups of fans. The last will be happy with whatever. So I wouldn't say the OUT fans are a minority but they shouldn't be the target audience that Disney's aiming for should they reissue the OUT. As much as I prefer the OUT over the SE, I'm not gonna be part of the crowd that goes 'you're not a true SW fan if you like the SE's' or vice versa. If the originals are to be issued again, Disney should package it with the SE, whether it's a previously released version or a new edit, to please both camps. As I said the third group will probably be pleased with whatever.

AntcuFaalb said: Interestingly, this website started with the simple goal of getting Star Wars on DVD. That's it. Nobody knew what would happen in 2004. :-(

 I stand corrected and thank you for your correction.

A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away......a site was created to secure the preservation of a film that impacted the world and changed the face of cinema. Then you people came along.

Annnnnnnndddd.....here we go (rolls eyes)

Well if we're gonna be realists I guess I'll give my 'realist' view on the subject. For the record this is strictly my opinion and is not an attempt to attract haters or to disregard the views of others here (though I've learned the hard way that I'm likely to attract that kind of response no matter what I say here). I seriously am not holding any glimmer of hope of a release of a remastered OOT. I say this for a number of reasons. Well some have mentioned the unlikelihood of a release of the OOT to tie in with the release of TFA since they just released the digital collection. I'm gonna have to agree with that crowd. Also there's the rumors that the OOT can't be released while Lucas is alive and if that's true how much further does this discussion go? Since we were cheated already with GOUT the likelihood seems even more distant. Also if these so called 'rumors' are true that the OOT is being restored why aren't we hearing more about it? The world is already practically finding out what's gonna happen in TFA so why nothing on a restored OOT?? I honestly think if it were to truly happen it either would have happened already, unless the GOUT is truly what some of you wanted with an OOT trilogy release, or we'd at least have a definitive and recent response on the subject from someone over at Lucasfilm. Again that's just my view of it. Perhaps my facts are eskewed and I'm not technically correct in some areas but from what I've gathered from all you and from my experiences as a long time OOT supporter that's how I feel. The only reason the OOT is gonna live on is because we the fans we'll make sure it survives. It may have Lucas' name on it but it is the people's film's now. Anyways that's as 'real' as I can put it guys.

TV's Frink said:

You should spend some time in the rest of the forum before making sweeping generalizations.

Frink, is that you???

Well in all fairness Lucas was already planning out the prequels while the SE's were being put together and he has claimed that the SE's were an experiment with new technology to see if he could do the prequels in addition to pleasing his 'vision'. So it's possible the appearance of Coruscant in ROTJ was intentional as perhaps it was designed to appear in TPM and Lucas wanted to test it out in a film.

DuracellEnergizer said:

Would that change be from the '04 version?

 It's in the '97 and '04 versions. I'd assume its in the 2011 versions as well.

'Bring my shuttle!' FTW

I kinda find the revamped Mos Eisley to be a prototype for Mos Espa

I sense a disturbance in this thread

Here's a change I don't see anyone take note of. Anyone notice in the SE for ESB the breathing of 'Vader' is changed in the cave? I assume it was done to hint that it's not the actual Vader but I think that sorta ruins it in a way. It loses that whole 'How did Vader get to Dagobah?' vibe before the scenes twist ending is revealed. I don't know. Just my thought.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said: Actually you don't get it... it has nothing to do with whether the changes are "bad" or "good".  And it's not about what any of us want.  It's about preserving art and cultural history.  That means all versions of the movies, especially the originals that won all those Academy awards.

 THANK YOU!

Step by step to a galaxy far, far away 

Danfun128 said:I said I like some of the SE changes. I never said I supported Greedo Shooting First, or Jedi Rocks, or Hayden Christenson as Anakin's Force Ghost, or Vaders arrival to the Executor in ESB...

I admit that I am a fan of semi-specialized edits. That being said, I have never supported how Lucas ignored the OUT. The fact that the OUT has the potential to go 4k or higher if the negatives could be found without SE elements doesn't help matters. (The 97se is a mixture of original footage and 2k edits. The 2004se was made by scanning the 97se film. This means that some scenes have been edited by a computer twice. Hence one of the reasons I think an official SE and Semi-Specialized SE should be built from the ground up.) I wouldn't be surprised if there are other members of the forums that care about the SE more than I do. Like you said, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.

 You make very good points and I agree with a lot of what you said. Lucas ignoring the OUT is disgraceful. Now me personally I wouldn't mind any of the SE's as long as the original is there with it. I just can't buy into Lucas' claim that there can be only one version especially when keeps changing from release to release. Steven Spielberg specifically told Universal when they released E.T. on DVD for the first time that it must contain both the original and newly enhanced versions. Ridley Scott released a box set with a bunch of versions of Blade Runner including a workprint version. I'm sure there's dozens of other examples but right there is two directors who clearly don't mind the idea of more than one version of their film(s) circulating together. Now if there was to be a new SW set I'd say either it be the original with the '97 SE or a newly done SE. Even I wouldn't object to that. I admit there's certain changes I don't mind. Removing matte lines, lightsaber adjustments (when done right), maybe some of the new CGI battle sequences. But others I completely oppose. Greedo shooting first, Jedi Rocks, stupid CGI Ronto in Mos Eisley, Vaders 'NOOO'. But I'm willing to live with all that as long as the original is still coupled with it.

Also Danfun128 no need to do this :p so many times. We get it. You're a SE fan who wants more work done to the film's. Everyone's entitled to their opinion.

I wasn't signaling anyone out. I'm just saying I know how people are. This was not me going 'these fans are right, these fans are wrong'. I'm just saying regardless of what goes down latter there will be a crowd of unhappy people. Lord there will probably be people who go 'the originals are coming back? ugh the SE's were way better.' You say things like the CGI in Mos Eisley is important to you as I'm sure there's probably others like yourself who feel the same. For people like myself it's not important. I say movies are movies and they should just exist as they are. Why change something that's practically a piece of history? But that's my opinion. I'm not saying I'm right or wrong just like I'm saying you're not right or wrong.

Either way even if it is released, two days later there will be a thread here with someone going 'I have taken the new BluRay of the OOT and color corrected, and put the Fox logo back, etc.' It's practically impossible to please even those who pretty much got their wish. I guess it'll be like 2006 all over again.