One example of color correction I think the '04/'11 version has over the '97 version is the Mos Eisley sequence. At least the '04/'11 doesn't have the pink tint. And yeah I agree about the sabers in ESB. Aside from Vaders horrid pink saber, at one point in the final battle Luke's sabers a bit washed yet is perfectly blue in the original.
Yeah I could definitely agree to the idea of hesitation out of loyalty to Lucas. Without him Disney wouldn't be banking in on this franchise to begin with would they?? Same with Fox if they are afraid to release the originals. You have to wonder though. Is it part of a bigger plan?? I think it's fair to say that both camps realize that releasing the original versions would be the best move if they wish to cash in more on the original movies. However, could it be part of something that they think will pay off more?? The fact they're releasing the same damn Blurays again within 5 years since its initial release shows they're willing to cash in on anything. So they probably know they want something that EVERYONE will buy including those who already own the current BluRays. So simply releasing the original versions wouldn't be enough. What else do we get?? '97 SE? '11 SE? A new SE??? And of course there's still the matter of Fox and Disney reaching a deal over video releases. Just an interesting theory.
Lucasfilm, don't make your fans angry! You wouldn't like us when we're angry!
Gonna have to agree as well. It's been a year since the rumor leaked on comicbook.com and we haven't had any updates since. So yeah I'm pretty convinced now it was a rumor being spread around to raise attention. Like many of you I really won't raise any hope until a response is given by someone affiliated with Lucasfilm which seems slim to none at this point.
I was actually gonna point out how we had a release in 2011, 2013, and now. So yeah I guess we could pencil in 2017 for the next release.
I didnt buy the BluRays in 2011, didnt buy them when they were reissued in 2013, wont buy them this time. Unless the originals are in their somewhere dont care. I'm not hating on the SE's but I wont watch them unless the originals are packaged with them. In regards to upcoming reissues of SW, I dont even follow Lucasfilm anymore. I'd rather just feed off rumors from an undisclosed sources about an OUT coming out even though I know they've been proven untrue.
PDB said:
dark_jedi said:
PDB said:
captainsolo said:
Anyone with the Jaws signature LD...how's it sound overall? I think it's the basis for the 30th DVD mono and BD mono. To best preserve the track we could use this and re-sync to the BD. The DTS version only has a spot or two of distortion but should have been lossless.
I also have the 1992 WS rescored version which other than the beach scene with replaced music sound mostly identical though it does feel far more robust in places somewhat akin to the 1985 home video SW mix. The "smile..you" line may have slight more clarity on the "bitch" than the mono but I could be hearing things.
Hey captainsolo you may want to look on fanres concerning the signature ld soundtrack
So non members can't get the answer here?
Well, captainsolo asked and he is a member there so it seemed a simple answer.
But since you asked, the sig LD track sounds very similar to the BDs mono track just with the add dynamics of lossless. I've never heard the 92.
I've never watched Laserdisc so I obviously dont know how they sound. What I can say is I've viewed most of the Jaws VHS releases and can say that most pre-1995 releases have the replaced song in the beach scene leading to Alex Kintner's death. The 1995 Letterbox VHS features the restored song as have every release of Jaws since. Also comparing the Mono version on the DVD releases (I havent seen the BluRay version) to some of the VHS releases there's certain sounds and/or dialogue thats a bit more clear on the VHS'. For example the shot of Cassidy lying on the beach as a wave washes through him at the end of Chrissy's death scene, we can hear him burp on the VHS. This is not heard on either the mono or 5.1 mix on the DVDs. Also the dialogue thats shouted in the scene where the shark tugs the Orca is more clear on the VHS such as Hooper's 'It's impossible! The line's too tight!'. Now obviously I dont know how the mono sounds on the BluRay but after comparing I think the mono on the 2005 DVD is slightly crisper than the mono on the 2012 DVD.
To quote the film E.T. 'What's this 'we' stuff???'
The day Lucas stopped listening to his fans, whenever that was
I'd like to do something like this but for the 1992 tapes. I think attempts have been made at this but I'd like to really do a good job with it. I just need a good wide scan of the ANH artwork (one that shows Vader's complete helmet and not with the corner cut off), the ROTJ artwork with small Lando (if one of you who posted it earlier would like to repost again that would be nice) and nice scans of the back cover collages.
I agree. I was exposed to the originals first so I prefer those.
DuracellEnergizer said:
crissrudd4554 said:
Also I personally prefer Yub Nub compared to the new song but I do agree that the new song fits the scene better.
I don't see how that's possible when the instrumentation of "Victory Celebration" doesn't even line up with the Ewoks' motions.
Well I was referring more to the mood of the scene. Although to be fair Yub Nub is really more of a song you'd expect to hear at a celebration held in an ewok village anyways so what do I know?
In regards to the sarlaac, I don't mind the CGI tentacles so much but the CGI beak has got to go. Sorry it looks ridiculous. Also I personally prefer Yub Nub compared to the new song but I do agree that the new song fits the scene better.
I actually have a few questions regarding E.T. Bare with me if this post is long since there's a lot to explain. I know that the 2012 BluRay/DVD of E.T. is the theatrical cut, but it still uses a remixed soundtrack that features new sound effects that were added for the 2002 enhanced version. When both cuts were released on DVD in 2002 the DVD of the original cut still featured a few of these new additions. This includes the effects that were added for the new digital shot of E.T. hopping to his feet and walking toward the town after he realizes he's been left behind which is followed by the sound of birds flopping away (I dont even think there were birds in the shot, its been a while since I saw the 2002 film) and radio static as the feds and Mary rush to the abandoned van. There's probably a few others as well but those pop to mind. None of my VHS copies of the theatrical E.T. has these so I know its lifted from the 2002 soundtrack. The 2012 version removes the static but the sound of E.T. hopping to his feet followed by the non-existent birds flopping away remains. This just looks and sounds out of place with the original scene. Also I know that the none of the VHS versions have Mary's full line where she tells Michael he's not dressing as a terrorist. Anyways someone on another site mentioned the BluRay edition has a 2.0 mix and says its sounds identical to the original. I dont have a BluRay player so I can't check this for myself. Im just curious if anyone here had the E.T. BluRay and wanted to compare the 7.1 track to the 2.0 track?? I only have the 2002 and 2012 DVDs which only has the film in 5.1.
Yep I would go with Harmy's version if you're able to obtain it. It's anamorphic widescreen and about as close as you'll ever get to an HD version of the original film.
Well I view it 3 ways. You have fans who prefer the OUT, fans who prefer the SE (any of them), and fans who aren't concerned otherwise and will watch the film's regardless of what versions they are. When you break it down the real battle is only between the first two groups of fans. The last will be happy with whatever. So I wouldn't say the OUT fans are a minority but they shouldn't be the target audience that Disney's aiming for should they reissue the OUT. As much as I prefer the OUT over the SE, I'm not gonna be part of the crowd that goes 'you're not a true SW fan if you like the SE's' or vice versa. If the originals are to be issued again, Disney should package it with the SE, whether it's a previously released version or a new edit, to please both camps. As I said the third group will probably be pleased with whatever.
AntcuFaalb said: Interestingly, this website started with the simple goal of getting Star Wars on DVD. That's it. Nobody knew what would happen in 2004. :-(
I stand corrected and thank you for your correction.
A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away......a site was created to secure the preservation of a film that impacted the world and changed the face of cinema. Then you people came along.
Annnnnnnndddd.....here we go (rolls eyes)
Well if we're gonna be realists I guess I'll give my 'realist' view on the subject. For the record this is strictly my opinion and is not an attempt to attract haters or to disregard the views of others here (though I've learned the hard way that I'm likely to attract that kind of response no matter what I say here). I seriously am not holding any glimmer of hope of a release of a remastered OOT. I say this for a number of reasons. Well some have mentioned the unlikelihood of a release of the OOT to tie in with the release of TFA since they just released the digital collection. I'm gonna have to agree with that crowd. Also there's the rumors that the OOT can't be released while Lucas is alive and if that's true how much further does this discussion go? Since we were cheated already with GOUT the likelihood seems even more distant. Also if these so called 'rumors' are true that the OOT is being restored why aren't we hearing more about it? The world is already practically finding out what's gonna happen in TFA so why nothing on a restored OOT?? I honestly think if it were to truly happen it either would have happened already, unless the GOUT is truly what some of you wanted with an OOT trilogy release, or we'd at least have a definitive and recent response on the subject from someone over at Lucasfilm. Again that's just my view of it. Perhaps my facts are eskewed and I'm not technically correct in some areas but from what I've gathered from all you and from my experiences as a long time OOT supporter that's how I feel. The only reason the OOT is gonna live on is because we the fans we'll make sure it survives. It may have Lucas' name on it but it is the people's film's now. Anyways that's as 'real' as I can put it guys.
TV's Frink said:
You should spend some time in the rest of the forum before making sweeping generalizations.
Frink, is that you???
Well in all fairness Lucas was already planning out the prequels while the SE's were being put together and he has claimed that the SE's were an experiment with new technology to see if he could do the prequels in addition to pleasing his 'vision'. So it's possible the appearance of Coruscant in ROTJ was intentional as perhaps it was designed to appear in TPM and Lucas wanted to test it out in a film.
DuracellEnergizer said:
Would that change be from the '04 version?
It's in the '97 and '04 versions. I'd assume its in the 2011 versions as well.
'Bring my shuttle!' FTW
I kinda find the revamped Mos Eisley to be a prototype for Mos Espa