chyron8472

Return of the Jedi
Return of the King
Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
Star Trek: Beyond
Toy Story 3
Iron Man 3
The Bourne Supremacy
Back to the Future III

I’m sorry to say, that because of Discovery, I have serious misgivings about any upcoming official Trek shows be they about Section 31, Picard, or anything else.

moviefreakedmind said:

ray_afraid said:

moviefreakedmind said:

The easy solution is just to not watch lazy remakes. That’s what I do.

This is wisdom, friends.

Absolutely. I don’t even get mad at the remakes. I used to, especially regarding Star Wars prequels and the like, but there’s just no need. Just don’t go see them and then everyone will forget about them in three months and there’ll be something new to hate.

Except when there are now talks of a sequel to the OG Ghostbusters films, which ignores the 2016 film, and one of the actresses in GB2016 vents on Twitter and turns it into an issue of sexism. …and then the media picks it up and writes articles about it which dumps it in my news feed.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Ok, thanks for pointing out the clarification, and sorry for directing my comment specifically to you. I’ll change my “YOU” to point towards a larger swath of zealous missionaries, you specifically not necessarily included. (although some of your other posts do seem to fit the 2nd sentence - that is, being the lucky bearer of ultimate truth).

Thanks, and apologies, as I realize some of my posts were unclear. And I do in fact believe I am the (very) fortunate bearer of ultimate truth…I wouldn’t be Christian if I didn’t.

BTW, this is exactly why science is not a religion. Scientists do not claim to know the truth; they only argue what they believe to be the current best explanations for things, given the limitations of available measurement technology. Being proven wrong is how science advances. By contrast, religion claims absolutely to know the truth (sometimes in spite of measurements and scientific reasoning), and those truths are immutable - like axioms in a mathematical system.

Correction: Science does not claim to know the truth. Scientists, however, do make claims regarding truth all the time, while backing those claims with what they offer as logical scientific evidence when it’s really just supposition and hypothesis. NDT does this a lot and it annoys the crap out of me.

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

RicOlie_2 said:

Puggo - Jar Jar’s Yoda said:

Ok, thanks for pointing out the clarification, and sorry for directing my comment specifically to you. I’ll change my “YOU” to point towards a larger swath of zealous missionaries, you specifically not necessarily included. (although some of your other posts do seem to fit the 2nd sentence - that is, being the lucky bearer of ultimate truth).

Thanks, and apologies, as I realize some of my posts were unclear. And I do in fact believe I am the (very) fortunate bearer of ultimate truth…I wouldn’t be Christian if I didn’t.

BTW, this is exactly why science is not a religion. Scientists do not claim to know the truth; they only argue what they believe to be the current best explanations for things, given the limitations of available measurement technology. Being proven wrong is how science advances. By contrast, religion claims absolutely to know the truth (sometimes in spite of measurements and scientific reasoning), and those truths are immutable - like axioms in a mathematical system.

Certainly, but we don’t claim to know the truth about absolutely everything either. Out of curiosity, what scientific reasoning and measurements do you think contradict Christianity (and specifically Catholicism)?

Well, for one, the power of prayer. Scientific studies have repeatedly failed to find any evidence that prayer has any effect whatsoever, while Christianity (and other religions) insist that it does.

You really think God would submit to scientific experiments so humans can measure, when His children ask him to jump, how high His jump will be?

You might as well assume lab animals could use other lab animals to conduct experiments, in order to measure how their human observers react, without humans realizing what they are doing.

God already said to not put Him to the test, so I don’t think He’d appreciate that.

lives*, not lifes.

“Why Doesn’t Discovery Feel Like Star Trek?”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGi8j_slU_E

An interesting in-depth study of the various aspects regarding why Discovery doesn’t match Prime Universe Trek—from the lighting and the camera work, to the treknobabble, to the tone and the focus on a single main character.

paja said:

Why is it taking so long for Ben Stiller to release his version of the bible?

I logged into the site on mobile to see what people were talking about. Firefox on my desktop PC blocks them for me. I’d switch back to Firefox on Android to block them there, but it’s of paramount importance to me for LastPass to autofill in-browser, and Firefox for Android’s LastPass addon is broken.

CHEWBAKAspelledwrong said:

thanks for getting that jingle stuck in my head

You’re welcome. 😉

snooker said:

Everything’s fine.

Jay said:

Or, you could get over it and move on with your life, which is what I plan to do.

If you were going to move on with your life, you would have already moved on with your life.

It seems clear to me from reading the last several pages of “Politics 2” that you were making things much worse than they needed to be. You seem to have a very real inability to de-escalate a situation outside of using mod powers. If you’d have changed the subject (which multiple other people were also already trying to do), the subject would have been changed.

When people think your claims to be in the center or even left of center, rather than on the right, are false and to that point either mistaken or disingenuous, you get very much bent out of shape about it and get into a big unnecessary argument. There are more ways to de-escalate a conversation than to threaten or use mod powers.

ray_afraid said:

But Warb isn’t getting death wishes and private threads where people talk about how much they violently hate him.

Jay isn’t getting death wishes. Seriously, that wasn’t meant to be taken seriously. Also, if people say things privately, why should we care? People can talk all the crap they want about me behind my back and I’m not worried about it until they say it to my face. Life is too short to worry about what people could be saying. I think you’re blowing this out of proportion.

And both Handman and dahmage have a valid point.

Jay said:

How many post reports did you personally submit because you were being bullied by Frink, Possessed, and whoever else?

At least a dozen or more since I started being active in Off Topic here. And not just for me, but also for when Warb and Ender were bullied and baited. Especially after Jason told us to stop moderating each other and let the actual mods do it.

Who was it that stuck up for you when you were new here? Your new “friends”? Nope. The mods and I did. My arrogant ass stepped in when the Rat Pack found its new punching bag.

I remember. I’m just saying—as people so often tell Warb—you, Jay, don’t necessarily have to take things so seriously.

Jay, I really wish you could be more introspective and actually consider a measure of criticism as valid instead of altogether being defensive and dismissive of it. If enough people are saying that you make a habit of being arrogant and/or a jerk, there may be truth to it even if they way the say it is tactless and unkind.

I don’t know what else to say, if you’re unwilling to accept any measure of wrongdoing.

Jay said:

chyron8472 said:

Jay said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Collipso said:

hello. i’m collipso. i registered less than one year ago, when my life was the shittiest its ever been and Star Wars helped me cope with everything. this place ended up helping A LOT too, so first and foremost, thank you all.

somehow though, like many mentioned, the forum has been decreasing in enjoyment constantly (for me) ever since shortly after the TLJ debates died out, which was around march or april.

i really enjoyed off-topic at first. man it was funny as heck, and the regulars here are just really nice people, all of them. at least all i can think of right now.

but… as of right now, i feel desolated. absolutely desolated. an extremely authoritarian action has been taken by the far right claims-to-be-centrist asshole Jay.

honestly Jay, when i first found out that you weren’t exactly appreciated here, i decided to defend you. our interactions had been fun and i quite liked you. i even understood it when you banned me, even though of course the “next guy who posts something gets banned” made no sense and treated us all like children.

but… you became what everyone said you were. an asshole. an idiot. a dick. you started to get in fights where you were obviously wrong but because of how arrogant you are it you completely blind to everyone else’s point of view and to everything that was ACTUALLY going on. i see you’ve brainwashed oojason for example, who claims to deal with facts while only spilling lies, your lies, only your side of the story. half truths are lies too, man.

you refuse to listen to others. you only care about what you think and yourself. you’re no leader. you’re no administrator. you’re nothing more than a man baby who thinks he’s opressed and gets it out on us. fucking pathetic. you’re fucking pathetic sometimes. most times.

and now you banned politics. banned. politics. that was incredibly childish of you. politics is something that’s at the core of every human being. everything is politics. art is political. Star Wars is political. you don’t just get to ban it. this is censorship and a dictatorship. and i won’t take it up the ass. never.

i ask you to reconsider it. unban politics. unlock the threads. grow the fuck up. people disagreed with you, got into heated arguments. that fucking happens, man. fucking deal. but no. dahmage said cool. so he’s an ass. therefore fuck the entire subject of politics.

it just makes no sense and is extremely childish.

you couldn’t follow your own rules man. you attacked others personally and failed to admit it, to apologize. to everyone. that caused the shitstorm we’re seeing, because you’re an asshole, but an asshole with power. those are the worst types of assholes.

so congratulations jay. you didn’t nuke off-topic, but you might as well have. most regular members are gone or leaving. you managed to take away all the fun in this place. all of it. so fuck you. fuck, you.

after months and months of going after frink and some other regular members, you finally did it. you’ve ruined this place to the community that built it. you’ve banned the guy with 80k posts. you’re making decades old members leave.

so i ask you to reconsider, and write an open letter apologizing for everything and unbanning frink and politics. it’s the honorable thing for you to do. it’s actually the only honorable thing for you to do. it’d make me reconsider.

with this, i can say i am leaving the forum. i’ll finish like i started, by thanking you guys. i’ve made some really good friends, such as darthrush, ChainsawAsh (whom i almost met, damn you circumstances!) possessed, frink, dahmage, dom, warb, coffee, and duracell. i never got to tell you before duracell but you might be one of the funniest people around. you, dahmage, frink… i’m going to miss you guys.

so yeah. you’ll see it eventually, Jay. you’re being an idiot, a hypocrite, an asshole. a fucking child. the stupidiest is the one who thinks they know everything. you fit the desceiption. so fuck you, and, sadly, fuck this place. but i’m carrying with me in my heart many good moments and i’m going to be in touch with those i really like. if i don’t end up banned, know that i’m not coming back.

thanks jay. you managed to fuck everything up. please, go drive into a tree.

It’s true. All of it.

Sorry to see you’ve become a casualty of Jay’s arrogance and self-righteousness, too, Collipso. In your short time here you’ve become one of my favorite members of this site I’ve ever had the pleasure of interacting with. Talk to you soon, buddy.

In, you know, a more welcoming atmosphere than what this place has become.

I’m sorry to read this since I respect your opinion, but if you really feel this way, you can leave. Everyone who feels this way can.

You’ll forgive me if I don’t drive into a tree over all this.

chucking whole threads with decades-worth of posts over.

https://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-deletion-of-the-political-threads/id/63465

The possibility of the action not being permanent doesn’t necessarily negate it being made.

Eh. I stand by what I said. It really didn’t need to end this way.

Jay said:

ChainsawAsh said:

Collipso said:

hello. i’m collipso. i registered less than one year ago, when my life was the shittiest its ever been and Star Wars helped me cope with everything. this place ended up helping A LOT too, so first and foremost, thank you all.

somehow though, like many mentioned, the forum has been decreasing in enjoyment constantly (for me) ever since shortly after the TLJ debates died out, which was around march or april.

i really enjoyed off-topic at first. man it was funny as heck, and the regulars here are just really nice people, all of them. at least all i can think of right now.

but… as of right now, i feel desolated. absolutely desolated. an extremely authoritarian action has been taken by the far right claims-to-be-centrist asshole Jay.

honestly Jay, when i first found out that you weren’t exactly appreciated here, i decided to defend you. our interactions had been fun and i quite liked you. i even understood it when you banned me, even though of course the “next guy who posts something gets banned” made no sense and treated us all like children.

but… you became what everyone said you were. an asshole. an idiot. a dick. you started to get in fights where you were obviously wrong but because of how arrogant you are it you completely blind to everyone else’s point of view and to everything that was ACTUALLY going on. i see you’ve brainwashed oojason for example, who claims to deal with facts while only spilling lies, your lies, only your side of the story. half truths are lies too, man.

you refuse to listen to others. you only care about what you think and yourself. you’re no leader. you’re no administrator. you’re nothing more than a man baby who thinks he’s opressed and gets it out on us. fucking pathetic. you’re fucking pathetic sometimes. most times.

and now you banned politics. banned. politics. that was incredibly childish of you. politics is something that’s at the core of every human being. everything is politics. art is political. Star Wars is political. you don’t just get to ban it. this is censorship and a dictatorship. and i won’t take it up the ass. never.

i ask you to reconsider it. unban politics. unlock the threads. grow the fuck up. people disagreed with you, got into heated arguments. that fucking happens, man. fucking deal. but no. dahmage said cool. so he’s an ass. therefore fuck the entire subject of politics.

it just makes no sense and is extremely childish.

you couldn’t follow your own rules man. you attacked others personally and failed to admit it, to apologize. to everyone. that caused the shitstorm we’re seeing, because you’re an asshole, but an asshole with power. those are the worst types of assholes.

so congratulations jay. you didn’t nuke off-topic, but you might as well have. most regular members are gone or leaving. you managed to take away all the fun in this place. all of it. so fuck you. fuck, you.

after months and months of going after frink and some other regular members, you finally did it. you’ve ruined this place to the community that built it. you’ve banned the guy with 80k posts. you’re making decades old members leave.

so i ask you to reconsider, and write an open letter apologizing for everything and unbanning frink and politics. it’s the honorable thing for you to do. it’s actually the only honorable thing for you to do. it’d make me reconsider.

with this, i can say i am leaving the forum. i’ll finish like i started, by thanking you guys. i’ve made some really good friends, such as darthrush, ChainsawAsh (whom i almost met, damn you circumstances!) possessed, frink, dahmage, dom, warb, coffee, and duracell. i never got to tell you before duracell but you might be one of the funniest people around. you, dahmage, frink… i’m going to miss you guys.

so yeah. you’ll see it eventually, Jay. you’re being an idiot, a hypocrite, an asshole. a fucking child. the stupidiest is the one who thinks they know everything. you fit the desceiption. so fuck you, and, sadly, fuck this place. but i’m carrying with me in my heart many good moments and i’m going to be in touch with those i really like. if i don’t end up banned, know that i’m not coming back.

thanks jay. you managed to fuck everything up. please, go drive into a tree.

It’s true. All of it.

Sorry to see you’ve become a casualty of Jay’s arrogance and self-righteousness, too, Collipso. In your short time here you’ve become one of my favorite members of this site I’ve ever had the pleasure of interacting with. Talk to you soon, buddy.

In, you know, a more welcoming atmosphere than what this place has become.

I’m sorry to read this since I respect your opinion, but if you really feel this way, you can leave. Everyone who feels this way can.

You’ll forgive me if I don’t drive into a tree over all this.

Again, with respect, as an administrator I would think you should be more level-headed than this. It seems very reactionary.

Certainly what many are saying is also reactionary, but it does have merit, and is not necessarily worth chucking whole threads with decades-worth of posts over.

Is there really not a Discord for people who frequent this place?

Jay said:

Possessed said:

dahmage said:

snooker said:

I miss Frink.

yeah. there are some really stupid decisions being made.

Be careful, disagreeing seems to get you banned and topics locked these days.

No, being a snide troll and a constant pain in the ass does.

https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/1250734/action/topic#1250734

The political threads haven’t been permanently deleted and I haven’t decided what to do with them yet, but I guess it’s best to throw a tantrum and post a bunch of conspiracy-laden garbage about an admin trying to cover up his mistakes

With all due respect, and this is just me stating my opinion, but you’re really not being very mature about all of this. Frink might be a jackass, but I don’t think all the thread-locking and such is necessarily called for.

I really did (and do) genuinely enjoy the political discussions that happen here, even if they can get heated at times. They are actually intellectually stimulating to some degree, rather than the echo chamber that is social media these days. And I’m probably not the only one who feels that way.

I have a shirt on.

TV’s Frink said:

Possessed said:

To be clear it was NOT social commentary

Since you can’t fit it in your sig, it wouldn’t matter if it was.

I’m sure he could fit it in his “sig” if he tried hard enough.

Or maybe someone else could fit it in their something else.

Possessed said:

chyron8472 said:

TV’s Frink said:

This is not going well for my babe at all.

he babe

chyron8472 said:

hat babe

TV’s Frink said:

This is not going well for my babe at all.

What babe? The babe with the power?