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#231021
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Sergio Leone Preservations - Dollars Trilogy, Fistful of Dynamite, Once Upon a Time in the West (Released)
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Wow! I'm so glad I checked back and looked through the forum today, as to find out that these and Thunderbal are being done have made my week! I actually requested these cuts in the dream edit section of this board, am very glad someone else has had the same idea and has taken it further! I'm a bit of a Leone-geek as well, so here's a few thoughts.

Good The Bad And The Ugly:
I remember thinking that the extended Tuco torture scene that was included on the UK DVD (and I think most/all others as an extra) didn't look that bad - but Lee Van Cleef says a line or two that won't have been dubbed into English. If you can pull it off I'd love to see the full length scene in there

Fistful Of Dollars:
Adding back in the American TV intro as an alternate start would be very slick - is it on the DVD as an extra? I don't remember seeing it.

Fistful Of Dynamite:
The UK version cut out several seconds of horses falling/being shot - be good to get that back in, and I don't know if it would be possible but the centre section of the film surrounding the massacre is all horribly out of chronological order to the point of not making sense, I remeber it being explained in one of the documentaries about them losing a torture scene, so this was the best they could do - but might be worth trying to see if you can get it more in order. What extras are on the Danish DVD?

For a Few Dollars More:
Adding back in the line of dialogue at the fight would be great - why they didn't is just beyond me.

Once Upon A Time In The West:
Great to finally see the extended 10+minute intro only in the Italian version.

Once Upon A Time In America:
I'm not to hot on the different versions of this one, but I know the DVD version is still missing scenes (some of which if I remember were on a Brazillian laserdisc) - a possible future project.

Thanks for doing these and keep up the good work! Any rough estimate one when you'll have any done?
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#211416
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What is the rarest video in your collection?
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Hah, awesome! That's the last respones I expected to get!
I'm actually Andy Gowans if you're on Cloud Zero; I helped put out 9 Lives To Wonder and Tanith on vinyl, actually working right now updating the LPD discog (been sadled with keeping it up to date now). I'm hoping to catch the shows in Portland and Seattle - if I can get enough money to have a vacation this year. It's weird where fellow Dot-heads pop up - any chance I know you? I know a few LPD fans in Denver. I'm such a LPD geek I've seen them play 10 times in the past 4 years - you can't beat the dots live!

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#211054
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What is the rarest video in your collection?
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It's harder with Films than it is with music, could list a load of records limited to less than 15 copies. Not including workprints or bootlegs:

Official Music videos:
Legendary Pink Dots - Siren (99 copies)
Current 93 - Since Yesterday
Ministry - Incase You Didn't Feel Like Showing Up
Revolting Cocks - You God Damn Son Of A Bitch
Psychic TV - Live in Berlin

All long out of print and hard to find, often pricey.

Film-wise got the 16 disc, 4 box sets of Twin Peaks season 1 and 2 on laserdisc.
Got the tine box first edition of Battle Royale with the piece of film
Evil Dead book of the dead (Pal version)
None of these are super rare though, 1000s of copies of each were pressed

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#207986
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Request: 'American Psycho' - an extended cut
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Got the workprint DVD in the mail today and just watched it - many thanks again! I can confirm that there are loads of slightly extended scenes in the workprint, about every 4th scene has an extra couple of lines of dialogue, and a lot of the montages and bridge scenes of New York etc. inbetween scenes are much longer. It's a shame the quality isn't great so the footage could be instered back into the main film without it looking really awful, as some of the extra dialogue is great. For example the second time Detective Kimble comes to Bateman's office he starts of by saying "I actually came her to see Timothy Bryce but he's off on a leave of absense" Bateman: "Yeh he went into re-hab".

A couple of the scenes which are extras on the DVD are in this cut also - the "reciprical tip" clip when Bateman is doing Courtney and she has a spat about the sype of condom. This scene comes right after the one where Bateman tries to throttle Lewis in the restroom and Lewis thinks he's gay. Right after this Courtney scene is a montage of NYC at night, then a car driving, and it cuts to the "Never Date A Vassar Girl" limo clip (which I assumed was cut from the club scene before) then into the 2nd nightclub scene, a montage of dancing and the scene of Bryce and Bateman doing coke in the toilets.

One other short clip that's missing is right before Bateman calls Jean near the end of the film and is breaking down you see him spinning around in a revolving door three times, stumble out and bang into a guy on the street excalim something like "Peterson! See you at Fluties!" smash his briefcase off the wall repeatedly, then smack into another pedestrian. It's a pretty funny clip. I'll see about listing all the differences in the near future when I check this out again.

Now I know where 2 of the 5 deleted scenes go I'm pretty certain where to put the other 3, so if someone is into doing this project then I could tell them where the inserts are and even send them this workprint and tell them which scenes are extended to put on the DVD as deleted/extended scenes of too poor quality to go back into the film. If anyone is interested let me know.
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#205822
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Sure, there's some info here:
http://www.dvdcompare.net/comparisons/film.php?fid=4219

"R2 Italy - (CVC (Cine Video Corp.) - Remastered) - (Italy - remastered) - 170 min (PAL). The Italian DVD is an extended version of the movie. Running time is 170:00 min - PAL ("standard versions" used in the other countries varies between 155 to 165 min. Paramount SE is 158:25 min - PAL). The principal difference is the opening sequence, which is longer (look at Jack Elem´s game with the fly), and the closing is also longer (the panoramic shoot is complete before the titles "C'era Una Volta Il West" appear). Another scene, which is missing from all European cuts, is in this one: After the station scene, Harmonica holds his arm because of the terrible pain in it, and returns on his horse."

Might not be a tough edit - you'd need to track down the Italian DVD and the UK one and do it in PAL, not sure about in Italy but here in the UK you can get the 2xDVD set for like £6, it's really cheap.

A few other preservation things I'd love to see:

Downtown - the MTV animation from 1998, loved that show but every episode I download is horrible quality - or is covered with 1/3 of the screen with foreign subtitles, be great to have a DVD of good quality versions.

Aeon Flux - Whole series and orig shorts on DVD in decent quality

lots of David Lynch releases:

Twin Peaks Season 2: I have the LD set, but wish I had decent transfers I could take round to other people's houses and watch and not just sit on my own, since I'm the only person in Scotland with a LD player it seems. I know it's meant to be coming out within a year, but well... Nothing is definite.

Industrial Symphony - A LD only Lynch release

Hotel Room - again think this was a LD release

On The Air - another Lynch TV show never made it to DVD but was a LD/VHS release

Mullholland Drive TV Pilot - the orig hour long TV Pilot version of Mulholland Drive, would love to see this in any format but a nice DVD transfer from a low gen bootleg would be ideal

I was wondering, I heard a rumour someone here had picked up a top of the range LD player and was re-transferring the Star Wars LD and doing extensive colour correction. Is this true, and is this person doing other preservation projects? Some amazing LD out there that could really do with being transferred well.
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#205713
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Info Wanted: Gettysburg - 270 min LD cut - has anyone done a preservation of this?
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Hey guys,
I’ve been reading a lot about a 270min cut of the film Gettysberg this evening, although information is few and far between, but I was wondering if anyone knows if there has been a preservation attempt on this film? The theatrical cut on DVD is “only” 254mins (the longest theatrically released film). Love to see this in it’s entirety, just about forked out for a 3LD set earlier on ebay before realising there were 2 cuts on LD and this was the same as the DVD. Does a site exist that details what LDs (or their features) have not made it over to DVD…? Never come across one in my travels, would be a gem of a resource.

Thanks guys-
Andy!

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#205442
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Request: 'American Psycho' - an extended cut
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Awesome! The track would be Good Love by Prince for the nightclub scene. I'll take another look at the clips and figure out exactly where they'd best fit into the film, I remember the limo scene actually comes at the very start inbetween the dinner and the club scene where New Order's True Faith is playing - so staggers the credits slightly. If I remember right the 2 delete scenes in a club are a seperate club scene to the first one and the second one. I'll rewatch this week and figure it out according to the book. Thanks for taking it on!

I've tried to find info on the AP workprint but can't find anyone who owns it, knows the film well, and has watched both. Eventually I'll track down a copy and figure out what the deal is with the workprint. I've heard the quality isn't so hot either.

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#205383
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Request: 'American Psycho' - an extended cut
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I'm in the UK, so the orig DVD that came out years ago had the extended sex scene and the deleted scenes - you guys in NA just caught up on this one with the DVD that came out last summer.;-)

Yeh - I was meaning add the deleted scenes that are on there as extras back into the film, they're all from the book and do add to the story. A couple of them would require some audio work (ie. adding a music track over a night club scene where there's no backing music) If anyone was wanting to do this I could help by saying where the scenes would fit in according to the book and which track to addd into the nightclub scene (the club scenes were a take off of the movie Bright Lights Big City - so it would have almost certainly been the Prince song from that soundtrack used in the AP scene).

I heard the run time was slightly more for the AP workprint, but I wondered if it was just due to PAL/NTSC speed up or actually had more footage. I know the film so well, literally line for line for the most part, I'd be able to figure out any differences if I had a copy. Not sure if it was ever torrented though...
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#205381
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FAN EDIT REQUEST THREAD - Post your dream Fan Edits Here!
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Didn't see this when I started my American Psycho extended version. I'm not a big fan of cutting films down, but I'm all over adding in deleted scenes. Love to see the following:

The Warriors TV Version - has the original introduction where they explain why each character is going to the meeting, and other extra scenes not in either of the 2 cuts on DVD

Once Upon A Time In The West - adding back in the extended intro and ending that's only on the Italian DVD

The Good The Bad And The Ugly - adding back in the extended Tuco torture scene (the footage isn't that bad!)

Dawn Of The Dead - the longest version possible from all the different versions

Hellraiser - not sure if the footage ever surfaced, but was originally a lot gorier, a lot more s&m references, original English voices (not overdubbed with American accents) and the original Coil score which was deemed "too scary" by the director.

This Is Not An Exit - a video that came out in 2000 which was a documentary about Bret Easton Ellis and had various dramatisations of scenes from his books (American Psycho, Less Than Zero etc.) featured then unknown Rachel Weisz it seems. Would love to get even a VHS dub of this one.

Anyone interested or know if any of these projects have been attempted..?

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#205377
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Request: 'American Psycho' - an extended cut
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Hey guys, I’m new to the forum but I thought I’d run a suggestion by you all. I’m a huge fan of American Psycho, and Bret Easton Ellis, and would love to see the excellent deleted scenes added back into the film. The night club scenes in particular are hilarious, and are key to explaining why Price dissapears for the second half of the film. Sadly I currently have the equipment needed or the knowhow, is anyone else as into the film as I am and into making an extended cut…?

Also, has anyone seen the workprint that is floating around? I’ve always been curious to know if it’s any different from the theatrical cut, save having no music.

Thanks guys, I think what the lot of you are doing here preserving films is incredible - keep up the good work!