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#1410970
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Hal 9000 said:

Because I had the chance I decided to watch TFA this afternoon, the first time since seeing TROS. I didn’t notice anything that really seemed to stick out. Rey’s parents were kind and she misses them. Snoke brought up the First Order to reforge the Empire. Kylo Ren encounters his equal in the light. Rey taps into some of her darkness.

Makes sense! I’ll do TLJ someday soon as well. Not expecting it to be as smooth.

This comment night need a Sith Dagger to find the right thread, perhaps? Lol

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#1410870
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Unless you’re referring to the novel, there was no indication in the film that the dagger was ancient.

I would have sworn the novel did, but that could be on me, actually. The text repeatedly refers to Ochi as a collector of “ancient Sith artefacts,” and I might have made that connection myself unintentionally. I’ll check.

If you ditch the compass in favor of Sith whispers or mystical guidance, you could use it to point to the Wayfinder regardless of where it might be. But you’d have to maybe have a sticky note on the handle he put the location onto.

The dagger really don’t make no sense.

My favourite part of TROS are the scenes with C-3PO; poor 3PO got really shafted by TFA and TLJ, and I genuinely love that he gets such a starring role in the first act of TROS. So as dumb as it is that there’s a map that points to another map like a videogame fetch quest, I do wanna keep the Sith translation as important as it is, so C-3PO’s sacrifice has the gravitas it should.

Plus, I don’t actually hate the Goonies-style “line up the dagger” thing as a concept. It is dumb that Rey just stands in an arbitrary spot anywhere on a kilometres-long shoreline for it to work, though, and my idea is to add a specific marker that she has to stand on and line the dagger up with, like the medallion in Raiders of the Lost Ark.

It certainly don’t make no sense, though, that’s for sure. I’ve spent longer thinking about it than Terrio or Abrams probably did.

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#1410727
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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I opened these questions up to a Facebook group I’m in, and this is what eventually emerged. Thank you, Star Wars Sithposting Discussion Group!

  • Palpatine ordered Rey’s parents’ deaths post-ROTJ, after being resurrected on Exegol.
  • The Dagger was an ancient Sith artefact that Palpatine gave to Ochi of Bestoon.

And either:

  • Ochi had the Dagger reforged into its current shape after learning of the Wayfinder’s location. He’s a weird Sith cultist who wouldn’t want to disturb the Wayfinder because that would be sacrilegious, but would desire proof that he knew where it was, in a form which only people who speak the ancient language of the Sith could understand.
    Or:
  • Ancient Sith made the Dagger in accordance with the will of the Force to see the future, then when the Death Star was destroyed, the Force made the wreckage fall in the same design the Force had inspired the Dagger to be made in. Which is ludicrous, in the pleasing way all the farcical parts that I liked of the EU are ludicrous.
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#1410723
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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I’m really confused about the Sith Dagger, and need to figure it out before I can comfortably edit the parts related to it.

Ochi of Bestoon has the Sith Dagger. It’s referred to as an ancient Sith artefact, and he’s explicitly described as a collector of ancient Sith artefacts. He also used it to murder Rey’s parents on Palpatine’s orders, prior to Palpatine’s death.

But: the dagger couldn’t have been made any earlier than the destruction of the Second Death Star, because its shape relates to the shape of the fallen wreckage on the horizon, to reveal the location of the wayfinder.

  • How can it be ancient and also less than thirty years old?
  • Who made it, and why?
  • If Palpatine didn’t make it, because he was dead, who else knew the location of the wayfinder?
  • Why make a map dagger to begin with, instead of just taking the wayfinder? And if you want to leave it where it is, why would you make a map for other people to find it and take it?
  • When did Ochi kill Rey’s parents, if Palpatine gave the order but was also dead before then? (Rey is younger than Kylo, who was canonically conceived just after the Battle of Endor.)
  • How did the Sith Dagger go from whoever made it to Ochi of Bestoon?

The more I think about it, the more confused I get.

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#1410721
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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sherlockpotter said:

Regarding the Medal Insert shot - it occurred to me that in order to get a decent looking rain effect, we’ll probably have to layer the rain between the background and foreground, and I’m not really sure how to do that. Perhaps one of our local VFX wizards might be able to help out? Or send me a PM to discuss it? I can also provide the original MP4 I exported if anyone wants that. Thanks!

For reference:

RogueLeader also suggested placing the insert after the first shot of Leia, then cutting back to Kylo, and then cutting to Leia lying down. Personally, I like that idea a lot, but didn’t do any rearranging here.

I agree with changing the order of the shots. Also, the light source in the medal insert should be further towards the right of screen to match the rest of the scene.

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#1410720
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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AntonioGK said:

Another thing we don’t have explanation is about the Emperor’s son… yeah I know he is a failed clone, but… what about deepfaking him to resemble a young Palpatine?

The only deepfake content I’ve seen that looks at all convincing is this guy on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZXbWcv7fSZFTAZV4beckyw

I have no idea how you’d go about deepfaking something like that, but if somebody did a convincing Billy-Howle-transformed-into-Young-Ian-McDiarmid, that could be mildly nifty.

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#1410483
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Icecream2448 said:

My interpretation (with this trilogy of edits) is that the dyad began its inception during the interrogation scene between Kylo and Rey way back in TFA. The seeds were planted there for the dyad.
And then in TLJ, Snoke bridged their minds together so they could now Skype call, which really got the dyad ball rolling. (Not really the smartest plan ever, but hey. Snoke is a fool and thought Kylo would finally try to surpass his grandfather instead of doing the same killing-his-master thing Vader did. It’s fine.) But then they could continue the force Skype calls after Snoke’s direct influence was gone, because the dyad had become that much more powerful and just naturally flowed to take that form of communication. It’s a very Force-ey unexplainable spiritual thing, and I’m fine with it. (Emperor or Snoke didn’t know it could still go on afterwards, maybe?)
And finally, The Emperor wasn’t controlling Snoke’s every move; he just “made” him, as in trained him. And set him up as a figure head in the First Order, as Emperor was trying tirelessly to get a working clone of himself in order. So, he didn’t know what exactly was going on in Rey and Kylo’s heads, other than what Kylo was directly telling the Darth Vader helmet and to Snoke (who, I guess, was relaying it back to Palpy.) The Emperor knew they had a bond, he even says it’s a bond. He’s just surprised that it’s as powerful as it is, sending items back and forth. (He also didn’t know Ben was there in the other part of the building, so that’s also why he was shocked when the Skywalker saber disappeared) He might have only known that Snoke bridged their minds, not that it had materialized into a full blown “unseen for generations” style dyad.

Something like this. I dunno. That might not make sense, or somehow contradict itself somewhere, but hey. It’s what I have to work with to make these movies connect properly.

I’m back and forth on the “every voice inside your head” line. On one hand, I can see how it’s kind of unnecessary to have both “I made Snoke” and “I’ve been every voice you have ever heard inside your head” lines back to back. One or the other is enough. But on the other hand, having both lines there doesn’t really take away anything for me, it’s just more explanation. I don’t mind the fan servicey presentation of it. Maybe, yeah, just remove the Vader breathing perhaps, if anything HAS to be changed there.

Basically, I’d only be upset if both lines are totally removed. I need SOME explanation in the actual film. We need to know that Palpatine “made” Snoke. It is important in trying to make this all makes sense, to directly connect Palpatine to Snoke. Not just the First Order, but to Snoke. At least for me. With the removal of the jar of Snokes in this edit, it leans more towards The Emperor meant he merely propped up Snoke, rather than literally created him, which is what we all want to have happen in Ascendant. But we need some of this dialogue to explain it. It’s messy and a little confusing and maybe still unnecessary to some, but I think it should be there. I’m also open to repurposing the lines for later on in the Vader helmet scene, like has been mentioned. Although, it would be weird to not have the Emperor tell Kylo at the start… but I digress. Either way, the line(s) need to not be completely removed, I feel.

Seconding all of this.

(You’ve actually clarified something very neatly in my head that I’ve been trying to pin down, for a slightly different type of edit I’m working on myself, so thank you.)

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#1410457
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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RogueLeader said:

Cool to here! I was wondering if you could pull anything of interest from that version of the script as well. Maybe you’re thinking this, but I think it would be interesting if Jannah and the other stormtroopers didn’t have names when we first meet them. They still go by their callsigns. Or, maybe they picked names because they heard about “Finn the Stormtrooper”.

I kind of wish some nuance regarding the Jedi that Trevorrow tried to present was still present in what we got. Like, when Rey finally speaks to Luke on Ahch-To, he can tell her the Jedi were wrong about fear and attachments. Jedi can’t deny fear, they must face it. And attachments aren’t a weakness, but a strength. I don’t know, something that shows how Rey (and by extension, Luke) will correct the flaws of the old Jedi Order. But that might be outside your objectives.

I really like picking names because they heard about “Finn the stormtrooper,” that tracks with what I want to bring across from the DOTF screenplay. It’s already been suggested I describe them as wearing bits and pieces of stormtrooper armour they’ve personalised, and I feel like that all meshes together well.

I agree with your thoughts about Luke and the Jedi, too. I don’t want to stray too far from the source material with writing my own stuff, but, I feel like those ideas are already thematically supported by TROS, just never really given the forefront in the story.

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#1410442
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Brewzter said:

sherlockpotter said:

sherlockpotter said:

Okay, I took a stab at color correcting the insert shot of Leia holding the medal. It struck me that, given how bright the blueish backlight is in Leia’s Death Chamber™, the dim, golden tone of the medal clip kind of stood out. Bear in mind that I’ve never color-corrected anything before, and my entire experience consists of watching one YouTube video; so if anyone out there knows what they’re doing and wants to offer some feedback, I’d be grateful!

Original (for comparison): https://streamable.com/soz9a7
Color Correction: https://streamable.com/y53j10

I may actually want it to be an even brighter blue. Hmm…

Another attempt - much stronger blue tones, and it’s a bit brighter to hopefully better match the quality of the lighting in the surrounding footage. Also shifted the color mask over to try to imply directional lighting. Is it too much?

https://streamable.com/v8g9w8

Nailed it! That looks great. I’d totally use this in my edit

Is it possible to add rain to the insert shot of the medal? That’s really the only thing which alerts my eye to something being amiss.

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#1410439
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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I’ve been rereading the DOTF Trevorrow screenplay, thinking there might be some good Leia content in it that I could work in. But the two different stories don’t gel together; everyone’s character arcs and motivations are too different, and it doesn’t match up in any useful way.

Except for Finn.

There’s already a bunch of really good Finn content I’m going to use, because his goals and motivation actually kind of work towards the same thing - in DOTF it’s leading a stormtrooper uprising, but everything which sets that up actually translates pretty seamlessly to setting up his interactions with Jannah instead.

I’m excited about this. Finn is a character who got severely shortchanged by TROS, and anything to flesh out his pretty barebones arc is really useful. There’s something good to be made out of it; it’s just going to take a bit of polish.

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#1410293
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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I also like “every voice” as it is and where it is. Ditto “I made Snoke.” Without the Snoke Clones, it’s easy to read that line as meaning he trained Snoke, made him who he is - saying someone “made” someone is a real-world turn of phrase which means that anyway.

Similarly, I never thought Vader’s voice in the “every voice” line was meant to be literal. Palpatine, or rather the Sith (whom Palpaine is now all of), has always been influencing Kylo indirectly, leading his fate here. When Kylo would ask the Vader helmet for guidance in TFA, it was clearly meant to be more of a personal reflection and internally meditative sort of thing, not him literally being spoken to by Darth Vader’s actual voice.

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#1410207
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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My counterargument would be that it’s still worth including because of what it adds to the movie, like using DVD deleted scenes that don’t match the BR quality of the surrounding scenes. But that’s a subjective choice about what you think is more important in an edit, and if the goal is to create a version of TROS you could show to someone who never saw the original and not have them realise you’d edited it, then I agree that the game footage has got to go. I think it looks fine, but the majority of people don’t.

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#1410128
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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The contrast looks a little low - the blacks are quite grey compared to the unaltered footage, at least on my monitor.

I think adding the shot is a good idea, though - I’ve watched TROS in various edits half a dozen times, and until I saw this shot, I had no idea what the layout of the Resistance base was supposed to be. Was someone going to try interpolating the footage to get a higher framerate, or am I misremembering that? That would allow it to be slowed down, increasing the length of the shot and making the frame track look more like a physical camera movement.

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#1410098
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Third chapter:

https://pastebin.com/yR7LjhL3
Password: CaptainFaraday

Changelog:

  • I rolled together different parts of a few chapters to fix the pacing issues created by removing lightspeed skipping. Unfortunately, I didn’t write it down as I was going, and now I have forgotten exactly what came from where. Oh dear.
  • Removed lightspeed skipping.
  • Removed Klaud.
  • Made the asteroid an abandoned mine, rather than an active First Order mine.
  • Removed the chess game so I can potentially use it somewhere later.
  • General quality of life edits as previously described, continued condensing bit characters in the Resistance into a smaller number of characters who each get a bit more pagetime.
  • Removed the implication that Boolio retrieved the information himself, instead of just passing it along.
  • The information being retrieved is now a copy of Palpatine’s transmission to the First Order.
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#1410032
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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Burbin said:

Here’s the haircut by jonh for those who missed it:

jonh said:

Hello! These are the shots in which it has been possible for me to change Luke’s hair, there are other shots in which it is impossible: a thousand generations … it is impossible, for me at least.
I have also lost two kilos of weight to Luke

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1wxCRU-kV6rx8nPENzKqWPD3lBv0a2c4F/view?usp=sharing

How was this even accomplished!? Secrets only the Sith knew?

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#1409927
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The Rise of Skywalker: Ascendant (Released)
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nl0428 said:

I’ll admit, I’ve been behind on this thread due to dedicating my time to my personal life and editing projects. What exactly is the percentage status on V2?

I know there’s also a Rey Nobody version in the pipeline eventually, which I’m very excited for, but I know Hal said would take a while. What’s the current percentage status on Rey Nobody?

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#1409803
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TestingOutTheTest said:

Oh yeah, do you plan on editing the novels for TFA and TLJ?

No plans right now for those, I don’t have much of an issue with them. I like TFA as it is, and while there are things I’d change about TLJ, I don’t feel the same urge to rewrite it as I do TROS.

Weirdly, though, I find I tend to prefer the junior novelisations (I read them to my son) because they’re a lot more direct and let the characters’ actions convey how they feel. Doing an edit where I inserted the best parts of the big print from TFA and TLJ’s novelisations into their junior novelisations would be an odd, but perhaps quite rewarding, project to do someday.

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#1409800
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Yeah it doesn’t have to be too descriptive. Although I would prefer if the Eye was described for what it actually looks like in canon.

In the new canon comics, Vader actually met with the Eye. And Vader obviously placed him in charge with defending his wayfinder. I think it would be interesting for him to recognize Kylo as the heir of Vader initially (which doesn’t happen in the original novel), and then they could talk from there. I also think it would be interesting if Kylo killed the Eye after he got what he wanted from him.

EDIT: Maybe he could get him angry by saying that he is too conflicted still, but not to fear because he will soon discover his true self. So Kylo kills him in order to try to prove that he can be dark.

Those are all great ideas! I’ll have a tinker with it.

I haven’t read the Vader comics, but a friend of mine has shown me some parts from them, and they look really good. Maybe I’ll track down the issues with the Eye and have a read for context.

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#1409660
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

CaptainFaraday said:

My only issue is that the Eye requires introduction, which takes time and reader investment, and then never shows up again. I left the stuff with Hux and Pryde because they’re both characters throughout the film, and their scene helps introduce us to both of them, to Kylo, to the First Order and its structure and attitude, to where the plot is headed, and sets up the dynamics of all three characters in relation to each other. The Eye just sets up, well, the Eye, and I think having Kylo talk to a mysterious ancient thing he doesn’t fully understand treads on the toes of Kylo talking to Palpatine.

I feel like these kinds of characters sometimes show up in stories and fairy tales though. Like a wise old hermit or a witch that tells the main character something important about themselves and then vanishes. Of course, this would be the first time something like that appeared in Star Wars.
EDIT: For example, there is the witches from Macbeth. Of course, they appear more later on in the story. But there are other examples as well.

I really like that way of thinking about it.

Now that you’ve mentioned it, something I notice that’s common to that character archetype is that they’re all pretty immediately recognisable, so they don’t feel like something unique to the individual story that the audience is being asked to remember for later.

If I don’t spend an overly long time describing the Eye (in the unaltered text, I think it gets more visual description than any of the protagonists!), and instead make it something very visually immediate, I think it would help with that. Perhaps it’s literally just an eye on a large optic nerve that rises from the lake?

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#1409659
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TestingOutTheTest said:

CaptainFaraday said:

TestingOutTheTest said:

I’m sorry, but some of your edits miss the point. The Skywalker lightsaber being split into two and being repaired with a band of metal is the equivalent of Luke’s robotic hand, it serves to remind us of Rey’s failure in TLJ.

Snoke being a creation from scratch explains why he never interfered during the events of the original and prequel trilogies, it turns out he never even existed at those points in time.

The whole point of Rey being Palpatine’s granddaughter is to reinforce her subconscious, irrational core belief that she is worthless, she becomes convinced that her lineage is the reason she is falling to the dark side and committing sins like unleashing Force lightning onto the transport and stabbing Kylo Ren in the chest with the very lightsaber he used to kill Han.

After she was abandoned by her parents, she subconsciously developed this irrational core belief that she is worthless, she subconsciously hates herself (she doesn’t actively hate herself, it’s a subconscious thing), she believes this lie that the only way to feel happy, to feel loved is if she gains love and worth from others as well as if she pleases others which would then result in said others giving her the love and worth she desires to make her feel happy; it is for this very reason she frees BB-8 from Teedo, why she bypasses the compressor on the Falcon, and why she tells Luke that she would not fail him in the way Kylo Ren did. She is essentially a parasite, leeching off of others to give her what she wants.

After Rey gives into the dark side and mortally wounds Kylo Ren, as I stated, she becomes convinced that her lineage is the reason she is falling to the dark side, so she exiles herself because if she falls to the dark side she’ll make things worse for others instead of pleasing them, she’ll never get the love and worth she wants. She thinks that being Palpatine’s granddaughter automatically makes her even more worthless… that is, until Luke shows up and gives her a pep talk that just because she is Palpatine’s granddaughter doesn’t mean she is worthless (for example, Leia knew of her lineage and yet still trained her, because she saw the spark or whatever in her).

She heads to the Sith Citadel on Exegol (the Citadel represents the subconscious and hidden part of her mind) to confront Palpatine and end the Sith for good, but he convinces her to kill him so she would become Empress and have control over his forces who are endangering her loved ones, her found family, if she refuses her loved ones, her found family, would be killed off; she accepts, knowing that if she becomes Empress and prevents the Final Order from killing her loved ones, her found family, she would obtain that worth for as long as she lives her life as Empress. Suddenly, Ben Solo, the one person she has had a close connection to through the Force for a long time, comes backs for her, showing her that he truly cared about her, that she is valuable, even if she never becomes Empress; this allows her to refuse the ritual and stand against Palpatine. However, he then drains most of her and Ben’s dyad life energy (symbolic of how low self-esteem drains one of life and happiness) and gets rid of the one person who has showed Rey that she is valuable, leaving her all alone once more in the darkness; that is… until she calls out to the Jedi of the past, then all of them respond and convince her that she isn’t alone, that she is capable of rising, etc. This convinces her to refuse the lie she believed her entire life, that she is worthless, that she can only feel worth something if others give her their love, so she finally faces against Palpatine. He spits at her about how she is nothing and how she is unable to stand against him; she ignores his remarks and responds back with her own, self-made sense of self-worth and self-esteem… that “she… is all the Jedi.” She permanently destroys Palpatine, the personification of this irrational core belief, once and for all.

These concepts aren’t really described in the text anywhere

If you’re referring to the actual film, do you even know what inference is?

Let’s keep criticisms constructive and focused on the edit, rather than people.

I’m specifically editing (and talking about) the novel, though of course the film largely informs that. The film has subtext that naturally can be interpreted in different ways (that’s just how stories work), but the novel is somewhat more explicit with explaining Carson’s interpretation of that subtext in the actual text of the novel itself. I don’t agree with all of Carson’s interpretations, and neither do you, judging from your interpretations above.

But that’s what’s brilliant about fanediting: we can each tailor a work to better express the specific themes and subtext we individually see in it. I wasn’t joking, I really would like to read an edit of the novel which brings out the things you listed above. I think it would be a great read.

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#1409565
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The Rise of Skywalker Expanded Edition by Rae Carson: The Faraday Edit (WIP)
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My only issue is that the Eye requires introduction, which takes time and reader investment, and then never shows up again. I left the stuff with Hux and Pryde because they’re both characters throughout the film, and their scene helps introduce us to both of them, to Kylo, to the First Order and its structure and attitude, to where the plot is headed, and sets up the dynamics of all three characters in relation to each other. The Eye just sets up, well, the Eye, and I think having Kylo talk to a mysterious ancient thing he doesn’t fully understand treads on the toes of Kylo talking to Palpatine.

I agree that it’s the same problem the movie had, I think that’s just inevitable in some ways because of what we’re working with. If I can introduce the Eye in a very fast but natural way, and keep the conversation brief, then I agree about keeping it in and adding the other Kylo stuff we talked about. You’ve made me determined to accomplish it now.

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#1409553
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

Here is the passage from the original novelization:
"The Eye cocked its head, making an eerie squealing noise. It took a moment for Kylo to realize the creature was laughing at him. “No need for that,” the Eye said. “Do you really think my lord would have left it in the guardianship of one who could be swayed by a trick of the Force?”

No, he supposed not.

“You’ve been seeking it for a while, yes? I must warn you, our fiery planet burns away deception. If you proceed down this path, you will encounter your true self.”’

I think the text could do a better job than it currently does at conveying the raft of things we just discussed. I’m not suggesting I explain the subtext (I’m removing a lot of subtext-being-explained from other parts of the book), but if I keep it in and add the other elements later to support it, I think I’d rewrite their whole interaction to convey that core idea.

I still worry it would slow down the opening section too much, which is already long as it is. And truncating it might make the interaction itself feel too fast. It would be a balancing act, if we go that route.

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#1409518
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Jar Jar Bricks said:

I would say that the creature guarding the Wayfinder is critical for Kylo’s character arc. He tells him that he will discover his true self at the end of this journey, which is something I wish would have been in the film.

There’s never really a sense in the big print that Kylo feels like he’s rushing towards something in that way, although it could be interesting to build on the conversation with the creature by adding that. Have him assume he’s racing towards one destiny (being Supreme Leader Kylo Ren), then after his conversation with Han, he realises it was actually the opposite this whole time (being a redeemed Ben Solo).

There’s a playful meta to that which I really like - the creature basically points out to him how a character arc works. I’ll keep the idea in mind as I go through the rest of the book.

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#1409510
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TestingOutTheTest said:

I’m sorry, but some of your edits miss the point. The Skywalker lightsaber being split into two and being repaired with a band of metal is the equivalent of Luke’s robotic hand, it serves to remind us of Rey’s failure in TLJ.

Snoke being a creation from scratch explains why he never interfered during the events of the original and prequel trilogies, it turns out he never even existed at those points in time.

The whole point of Rey being Palpatine’s granddaughter is to reinforce her subconscious, irrational core belief that she is worthless, she becomes convinced that her lineage is the reason she is falling to the dark side and committing sins like unleashing Force lightning onto the transport and stabbing Kylo Ren in the chest with the very lightsaber he used to kill Han.

After she was abandoned by her parents, she subconsciously developed this irrational core belief that she is worthless, she subconsciously hates herself (she doesn’t actively hate herself, it’s a subconscious thing), she believes this lie that the only way to feel happy, to feel loved is if she gains love and worth from others as well as if she pleases others which would then result in said others giving her the love and worth she desires to make her feel happy; it is for this very reason she frees BB-8 from Teedo, why she bypasses the compressor on the Falcon, and why she tells Luke that she would not fail him in the way Kylo Ren did. She is essentially a parasite, leeching off of others to give her what she wants.

After Rey gives into the dark side and mortally wounds Kylo Ren, as I stated, she becomes convinced that her lineage is the reason she is falling to the dark side, so she exiles herself because if she falls to the dark side she’ll make things worse for others instead of pleasing them, she’ll never get the love and worth she wants. She thinks that being Palpatine’s granddaughter automatically makes her even more worthless… that is, until Luke shows up and gives her a pep talk that just because she is Palpatine’s granddaughter doesn’t mean she is worthless (for example, Leia knew of her lineage and yet still trained her, because she saw the spark or whatever in her).

She heads to the Sith Citadel on Exegol (the Citadel represents the subconscious and hidden part of her mind) to confront Palpatine and end the Sith for good, but he convinces her to kill him so she would become Empress and have control over his forces who are endangering her loved ones, her found family, if she refuses her loved ones, her found family, would be killed off; she accepts, knowing that if she becomes Empress and prevents the Final Order from killing her loved ones, her found family, she would obtain that worth for as long as she lives her life as Empress. Suddenly, Ben Solo, the one person she has had a close connection to through the Force for a long time, comes backs for her, showing her that he truly cared about her, that she is valuable, even if she never becomes Empress; this allows her to refuse the ritual and stand against Palpatine. However, he then drains most of her and Ben’s dyad life energy (symbolic of how low self-esteem drains one of life and happiness) and gets rid of the one person who has showed Rey that she is valuable, leaving her all alone once more in the darkness; that is… until she calls out to the Jedi of the past, then all of them respond and convince her that she isn’t alone, that she is capable of rising, etc. This convinces her to refuse the lie she believed her entire life, that she is worthless, that she can only feel worth something if others give her their love, so she finally faces against Palpatine. He spits at her about how she is nothing and how she is unable to stand against him; she ignores his remarks and responds back with her own, self-made sense of self-worth and self-esteem… that “she… is all the Jedi.” She permanently destroys Palpatine, the personification of this irrational core belief, once and for all.

These concepts aren’t really described in the text anywhere, and thus fall outside of my purview to edit. But what makes all of these stories so interesting to edit is how everyone can read into them differently. Carson came up with her own reasons in the big print to explain a lot of TROS’s choices, and if you wanted to do an edit where your interpretations are woven into the big print instead, I think it would be really interesting to read.