bigmonkey2382

TV's Frink said:

Helping

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Tyrphanax said:

This thread is creepy, but I can't quite put my finger on why...

It could be your love of animal porn.

I'm just starting my collection, You should send me back to the future and metropolis. Lol I already have blade runner.

Ziggy Stardust said:

I don't really agree agree with his decisions, but I don't want him to die....

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Mielr said:

 

bigmonkey2382 said:


Getting rid of your LD's because of the gout? Most illogical [/spock]

 

Not at all- it's true the LDs SOUND better (but dark_jedi has put the LD's PCM tracks on his GOUT versions).

The LDs look terrible to me compared to the GOUT. I thought at first it was my player (although my model was supposed to be one of the better ones for PQ), but when I saw the examples in the X0 project thread showing that the LDs looked inferior even on THAT machine, I think nearly everyone pretty much admits now that the GOUT is a better representation (at least visually) of the OT than the LDs.

Plus, the SW Gout disc has the original crawl. :-)

 

No I'm talking about getting rid of your ENTIRE LD collection, for simply getting the gout. There's still versions of movies, and shit you can't get on dvd or blu ray, no way I'd do that. (I'd get both the gout and keep the LD's if it were me.)

First he raped childhoods, next he'll dye his skin white like MJ and rape the children themselves!

First raping childhoods next.....

The big question is what happens to the children once Lucas becomes MJ?

One thing is for sure, if he's becoming MJ, my kids aren't visiting his ranch.

MJPollard said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

TV's Frink said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

SpenceEdit said:

I'll get back on topic, swear, but let me just say that every fanediting comes with the understanding that you must own a legal copy of the movie before downloading the fanedit. It becomes piracy if you did not pay for the legal copy of the movie. If you have a copy of Star Wars, it's just a back up. There's very little the feds can do with that. I've also never heard of anyone getting in trouble over a fanedit.

It doesn't quite work like that.

What are you, a narc?  Go start a new topic if you want to argue the legality of fanedits.

Just stating a fact, and I'll go where I like, thanks. :)

Ah, I see where the confusion is. You're in the "say something nice about George Lucas" room. The "discuss the legality of fan edits" room is a few doors down, on your right. You can't miss it.

Is it?! I would have never known, had YOU not pointed it out to me. :)

TV's Frink said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

SpenceEdit said:

I'll get back on topic, swear, but let me just say that every fanediting comes with the understanding that you must own a legal copy of the movie before downloading the fanedit. It becomes piracy if you did not pay for the legal copy of the movie. If you have a copy of Star Wars, it's just a back up. There's very little the feds can do with that. I've also never heard of anyone getting in trouble over a fanedit.

 

It doesn't quite work like that.

What are you, a narc?  Go start a new topic if you want to argue the legality of fanedits.

Just stating a fact, and I'll go where I like, thanks. :)

SpenceEdit said:

I'll get back on topic, swear, but let me just say that every fanediting comes with the understanding that you must own a legal copy of the movie before downloading the fanedit. It becomes piracy if you did not pay for the legal copy of the movie. If you have a copy of Star Wars, it's just a back up. There's very little the feds can do with that. I've also never heard of anyone getting in trouble over a fanedit.

 

It doesn't quite work like that.

Why not? It happens all the time anyway and money overrides "ruining the lives of their hardest of hardcore fans" if they have a sure fire way of getting it.

A matter of preferring to actually buy something.

ROFLRICK said:

I'm saying that there is a very small chance that you are wasting your time. You shouldn't simplify so much. I'm not referring to fan edits (which are icing on my nerd cake), but specifically the preservation efforts for the OUT. Harmy's are amazing. Dark_Jedi's are, too. What do you gain if George also releases them? The satisfaction that he relented? I ask again, what's the point of that?

Well I'll actually have them to view, as I'm not going to download the movies on the internet.

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Gaffer Tape said:

ROFLRICK said:

Promus said:

I did MY part...gave a crappy review and rated it as one star.

Let's "stay on target," people! This is our chance to "strike back" in some small way at Lucas!!

This is pretty ridiculous as well. It's not going to matter. Lucas publicly rebukes those that want the OT. He doesn't give a hoot about all the one-star reviews in the world. The group of people that would take the time to "vote with their wallet" is so small compared to the general buying public who thinks having Star Wars in HD is "pretty cool". That's all that matters.

Actually, I didn't have to waste much time at all to vote with my wallet at all.  In fact, it took no time.  I've spent no time not buying these movies.  It's great.

But I really hate this mindset.  Forgive me for saying so, or don't, but it's a pretty lousy attitude to have.  "You're not going to win, so why bother trying?"  Gee, maybe because we believe in something?  Maybe because, even if we can't win, we're at least sticking to our principles.  Maybe because, even if it's a tiny dent in George's pockets, at least we know that he didn't get our money, that at least there's a few ten thousands of dollars he won't have to finance that much more CG shit on the screen.  But, seriously, Star Wars "fans" are some of the most defeatist and frustrating people I've ever met!  It's amazing they ever get anything done if they have that kind of attitude in real life too!

I'll wager that wrongfully and intentionally attempting to sway the general public's idea of something is not a good principle. And furthermore, the thing that most of us want is accessible right here on this website. I've been enjoying the OUT for some time now, in versions that indicate they were created with a lot of love and care. The obsession with getting a single man to do what more creative men are doing already (and better) is silly.

So you're saying we shouldn't complain because there's fanedits?

ROFLRICK said:

He's aware of it for sure. The thing is, the fan complaining isn't justified. Far from it. You could definitely call it understandable. Star Wars isn't our life's work that George Lucas took from us and screwed up; it's his. So he has license to do whatever the hell he wants...

He maneuvered himself that way out of the gate, ensuring he would have merchandising rights. I don't think there is any getting in the mind of someone as odd as George Lucas.

EDIT: By the by, Promus, your signature is awesome!

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

It masturbates his ego.

If lucasfilm is ever in need of money, watch out that could be an easy way they could obtain it.

ROFLRICK said:

Pennsylvania Jones said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

TV's Frink said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

Aren't the fan edits considered piracy?

You do know there are a couple of fanedit forums here, right?

Yes I'm aware, but I'm wondering how safe it would be from the suits?

My dad's wondering the same thing.  Well, in the context of the fan preservations, not fan edits.

The question is: Are fan edits/preservations REALLY piracy?  My dad thinks so.  But maybe he's right, though.  Maybe the fan edits/preservations ARE piracy, and we're just blind to that fact.  And that sucks so badly, that the botched official releases are the only ones I'm allowed to own. >:(

That's a bummer you're restricted from viewing these preservations. It's not piracy in the strictest sense; the intent isn't to profit and the reach of the edits is fairly narrow in the grand scheme of things. Unless the existence of, say, a Harmy or Adywan product begins to encroach on Lucas' ability to profit from Star Wars (if anything, all the edits are helping Lucas, as they continue to perpetuate the adoration of a product that he alone has the ability to make the entire world aware of once in a technological generation.) I doubt we will ever see any serious backlash toward communities like this.

They can still nail you even with piracy without profit if they wanted to.

Red alert, red alert, we have an intruder wasting time about people wasting time.

Puggo - Jar Jar's Yoda said:

What gets me are the people that will fork out $75 for deleted scenes.  Is there any other movie in the history of moviedom for which people will spend that kind of money on low res versions of bits that were thrown out?  I know we're star wars nerds and all, but geez in a normal world that stuff is worthy of being a free download.

I bet a lot of the cases are people are wanting the movies secretly, but only admitting to wanting the features.

generalfrevious said:

eiyosus said:

There's one phrase I've learned to hate more than any other:

"It's Star Wars on Bluray!"

So many arguments I've read boil down to somebody saying that.

"Sure, the movies still have all the problems of the old DVD's, and Lucas is the only director in the history of cinema to suppress his original movies, BUT IT'S STAR WARS ON BLURAY!"

But they don't realize it is not Star Wars on Blu-ray. It is six direct-to-video impostors calling themselves the Star Wars films. This suppression should boil the blood of every person who cares about movies. I was wise to not give in to the hype; I never even bothered to buy it before the Vader NOOO in Jedi. And as I thought, the PR on how "great" these Blu-rays are is complete bullshit. This is scaring me; no one is honest enough anymore out of this site to stand up to GL. It's like LFL is forcing them to give this release a good review. GL will succeed in his ambitions of destroying these three films. Trust me.

And not just a good review, but a full five stars.

TV's Frink said:

bigmonkey2382 said:

Aren't the fan edits considered piracy?

You do know there are a couple of fanedit forums here, right?

Yes I'm aware, but I'm wondering how safe it would be from the suits?