I posted an idea years ago about turning Geonosis into some sort of super weapon. At the time it was the thought of having the planet essentially fly through hyperspace so it could make surprise attacks throughout the republic - so the mysterious ‘missing planet’ subplot could be about the hunt for the mysterious Seperatist Base instead of Kamino.
Another line of thinking could be that instead of trying to tie the PT to the OT, one could think of ways to tie the PT to the ST (giftwrap the OT). We are yet to find out more from the ‘Knights of Ren’ - but could this be something Dooku and Grevious be a part of? Essentially a third Jedi faction (if the sith are the second). Could the Star Killer base be a sister planet to Geonosis advocating similar technology? (Star killer always seemed like a clumsy prototype to the nimble Death Star to me).
Shroud of the Dark Side did this
Reading through the cutlist for the WCOYJ Cut of TLJ, I really like how CodySolo has placed the flashbacks in the cave sequence - a nice place to put a revelation without necessarily breaking with star wars not necessarily using flashbacks as a device.
So it got me thinking - what if Luke revisits the cave on Dagobah in ROTJ? Could this be a place for a flashback, a foreboding prediction of later events in ROTJ or a teasing link to the ST? How could this work in context to PT or ST edits that might decide to cut or change events slightly?
Oh man. 10 years and a day I replied first.
We should make these radical edits soon right?
The gang infiltrates the Imperial Capital!
This change really lifts the scene! Love it.
Ironically I felt that the ST lacked the political context that the PT suffered from, like it would have just helped to see what the Rebels had fought so much for so we knew what the stakes are within the story.
It’d be cool if the resistance were the surviving elements of the Republic Fleet. An opening scene in TFA could be the Republic Fleet pursuing and outnumbering the First Order, only to be entirely wiped out by the ‘Mysterious Hyperspace Weapon’. Perhaps Leia senses the trap and jumps away in the Raddus just in time.
Beautifully written EddieDean.
I really liked it. Probably my favourite SW film after ESB, RO and ANH. The fan service actually felt like nerd trivia, with hints at the wider universe - not lingering shots on cantina aliens or droids - well except for the big red stinker.
I’d probably trim the Maul bit so he is just a cowled figure with robotic legs, or at most reveal a face - but the lightsabre seemed a little unecessary. I found him a bit jarring and it took me out the film.
As with an ideal Rogue One edit that has a crawl, and has a single sustained time period (ie no time jumping or flashbacks) I’d like to figure out how a space opening could work. I assume you could probably open with Star Destroyers over that planet where Han is a soldier. Would the film really make much sense without the Corellia scenes though? It would definilty lose alot of the character connection.
Radical idea - impossible to pull off in an edit, but I thought I’d share.
So Padme and Queen Amidala are seperate characters. Padme is her double for security reasons - just a fairly similar looking handmaid, who dreams of leaving the planet and wishes she was an important person/hero herself, as oppose to living in the shadow of the queen.
The bad guys invade, and the Queen is killed in an accident. Padme then assumes the identity of the Queen (probably at her request). She escapes with some bodyguards/jedi etc, returns later on, saves the day. At some critical point she probably reveals that she isn’t the queen, or gets discovered, but rallies her people from her own confidence as oppose to the image of the queen.
It would sort of map well to Luke’s journey in ANH.
Not really a FAN EDIT discussion as such, but I feel it should live here as it could potentially inform some future fan edit projects…
With STAR WARS TV & MOVIE media expanding rapidly - multiple TV SHOWS fleshing out back story to characters we see, the ever growing colletion of ‘STORY MOVIES’ prequellig characters and events etc - watching a collection of STAR WARS movies is becoming ever more cumbersome and creative.
Given the wealth of content available, what would your STAR WARS playlist be? And what yet-to-be-realised fan edit or movie be that could be part of it? Who would it be for, what themes/characters/events/places would you focus on? What would you name your playlist?
Perhaps retcon Tatooine’s sky as green?
Vaguest of ideas -
I saw the films BEFORE SUNRISE and BEFORE SUNSET recently, and was wondering about how the romance between Anakin and Padme might be a touch more convincing.
I think this would work in a PT that doesn’t contain TPM, so we start with an overhauled AOTC, and Episode III will likely be filled by a future anthology film.
So the basic premise is - we have Anakin and Padme MEET in AOTC. They have a short romance, but mutually decide, or realise it is impossible - and separate as the Clone Wars open.
The events of ROTS, which force Anakin to stay grounded on Coruscant, bringing the two together again after many years apart. The initially platonic relationship shifts as they can’t resist the revisiting the romance more completely, finally consummating their relationship - however Anakin’s slip to the Darkside ultimately stops it going any further.
She could be engaged to Bail Organa in some sort of classic aristocratic marriage. Anakin perhaps only finds out about the pregnancy being his as he chokes Padme, or it’s revealed at the very end of the film as he burns on the shores of Mustafar.
It would radically change their relationship - turning it from a marriage into more of a WHAT IF - the tragedy is possibly drawn now from Anakin not realising what good things he has until he’s crushed it.
I finally got round to watching your edits DigMod (cut opening RoR and HotF) - they’re great, really such an improvement. I’ll try and gather my thoughts into a tangible small review when I get chance.
David Lynch’s prequels?
I’ve been pondering whether the Death Star trench plot in ANH might have been intended to be anecdotal of Luke Skyhopping on Tatooine - and how those experiences indirectly equipped him for the battle of Yavin. You see this sort of thing alot in movies, and its a great way to sometimes make a convoluted victory seem believable (superhero films use it loads).
So - WHAT IF the intended (I assume it was intended) parallel between pod racing/space battle could be made more direct?
The pivotal point of the battle is Anakin flying into the droid control ship, and blowing up the reactor. Could this be made to seem more deliberate - and more believable? WHAT IF Anakin was to win the pod race by tactfully flying through a narrow alternative tunnel to slip past Sebulba? No idea how, but it might work?
Thanks for the replies!
ATMachine - I think what you are saying makes alot of sense, essentially something that was potentially conceived, maybe influenced other elements of the story, and then perhaps was dropped (but we still have it’s DNA in the story).
I didn’t want to make the comparison earlier, but had it been executed better, the podracing/space battle parallel would have been similar. It would have been nice to see Luke come up with an instinctive strategy with Biggs based on their experiences in Beggar’s Canyon - as you mentioned Silverwook, it would be really cool to see in a Luke centered Prequel Film.
I wonder if the intention of the Death Star trench was to mirror some prior anecdotal experience Luke had flying through canyons on Tatooine - that would indirectly equip him to fly in those conditions.
I know none were filmed, but were any Skyhopper scenes (that he references in the deleted Biggs scene) ever considered or planned?
I guess in its absence, we will always have that first level on REBEL ASSAULT - or this thing https://youtu.be/O1NpZxn860M?t=1m10s
I’ve got an idea. How about we all be happy when it’s released. Those who aren’t can go spend their precious time and money to fix all of what they think he did wrong. Welcome to fanediting.
It is a forum though…
I don’t know if this has been mentioned or recommended - but are there any plans to utilise R1 elements in the new edit? I’m not thinking intrusive stuff (ie Security Droids, Ships etc - although I would love to see that) - but more subtle elements like backgrounds within the Death Star.
The reason I bring this up, is I always felt the Death Star Bridge felt very dark, almost like a stage, whereas in R1 it is much better lit. I’d assume the R1 set was modeled very closely on the ANH version, so might be plausible to source from.
(as long as you don’t use “Rogue Two” for “A new Hope” 😃)
Actually Rogue Four does have a nice ring to it.
I think maybe Editroid missing the point where the subjective agenda we have here (ie favouring the OT), not what the general populous has who go on IMDB. One day there might be a PT.com that edits the OT to match the PT.
Just to play devils advocate - if the PT were really THAT awful, we wouldn’t feel they could be saved through the PREQUEL RADICAL REDUX thread. Right?
Oh, and it looks like there is a PT.com after all.
I imagine you’ve seen all these already ADY, but others who haven’t been on the forum so long may have not seen them.
Years ago a member called SSWR made a bunch of small, yet effective, edit ideas. I didn’t manage to get hold of all of them before he took them offline, but there are some nice small ideas for ROTJ.
As far as ewoks are concerned - I like the idea that they are a thematic tool to take the rebels to the back door, and to act as a lure to the imperial forces.
It was joked around years ago that C3PO should be painted green perhaps - it seems oddly impractical to take a bright gold protocol droid to Endor when you’ve got the rest of the team wearing camouflage.
As Ender said, I feel that waiting to see what the various alternative Disney prequels deliver would be prudent. For instance if a new Kenobi Prequel is in the works, then that, as well as R1, could serve as material for EpIII etc.
^That is an interesting idea. The whole VOTE NOW senate scene could be the various systems picking their side perhaps (instead of the vote of no confidence). It could be reminiscent of Shakespeare’s Henry VI with the rose picking.