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#1143571
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The Last Jedi: Official Review and Opinions Thread ** SPOILERS **
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What the fuck was this movie? They let this absolute madman of an indie director turn Star Wars into an experimental rumination on nihilism. Everything that’s set up in TFA and the first half of TLJ is rendered completely pointless and a waste of time. Snoke, Rey’s Parents, Luke’s depression and Nihlism, are the obvious examples here. I know Rian did this on purpose to like prove a point, but its not executed well. i mean, you spend 2/3 of the film on this B plot about disabling the tracker and it ends up being completely irrelevant. The case to be made here is that “failure is the best teacher” but setting things up without paying them off is not how screenplays are supposed to work. TFA may have been unoriginal but it was at least coherent. Unless you’re Terrence Malick, please stick with the standard hero’s journey, especially in a Star Wars film.

“I fundamentally disagree with everything you’ve written about my character”
-Mark Hamill

EDIT: Furthermore, the lack of organization between the two sequel directors is astounding. In TFA Luke has created a map to himself so that people can find him when they need him and then in TLJ he says he didn’t want to be found. What!? Where is the lore master of this trilogy, making sure things are consistent between the films?

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#894825
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Yoda Is Your Father said:
I do wonder though - if they hadn’t acknowledged the history and heroed those moments in the way they did, would we feel unsatisfied in a different way? They had a choice to either do it or not do it, and they chose to do it. Arguably they made the wrong decision, but equally the opposite decision could have backfired.

I see what you’re saying about feeling unsatisfied without such moments but there certainly could have been some middle ground to find. Speaking personally, these events took me out of the story and made me less invested because I can tell that they were written with a large audience in mind rather than for a real dramatic purpose.

TV’s Frink said:

a_moldey_waffle said:

Having said that, the biggest issue I have with The Force Awakens is that it is too reliant on exhibitionism and audience interaction. It is content to rest on the laurels of the franchise and let the already iconic imagery do the work without offering anything new to the table.

I’m going to disagree here. There is so much new, and so much risk taking, that I can’t agree nothing new is brought to the table.

Female lead to carry the movie, who is allowed to stay covered up (in one outfit, no less) and get sweaty and dirty? Huge risk.

Black second lead, as a defecting stormtrooper? Risk.

Han gets killed? Giant risk.

Luke doesn’t show up until the last scene and doesn’t say anything? Risk!

We get a complex imperfect villain completely unlike Vader who idolizes him at the same time. Not to mention a villain who doesn’t look like one when he takes the mask off. We see the force used in new and interesting ways.

I don’t disagree with much of your points, and the movie does play it safe in some ways, but it’s not a safe movie.

Well said. Though my quote was referring more to the mise en scene and world building rather than the characters and specific plot details. However, everything you said is true. (Edited a word).

Lord Haseo said:

a_moldey_waffle said:
Rey has no time to realistically develop as a character because she is too busy saying stuff like “You’re Han Solo! You made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs”

Part of that scene was there to establish that the whole history of the OT is not set in stone. The Galaxy can’t come to a consensus as to Han Solo is. So imagine what else from there are merely regarded as legend or just hyperbole. For me it added depth to the universe in a far more effective way the PT did.

While this has some merit, I can’t help but feel that this was not the intent of the screenwriters. The intent with the line was to rile a reaction from the fans in the audience who are “in” on the joke. So, while I feel that what you’re saying is a valid explanation, I just can’t help feeling that the filmmakers had a much more simple, narrow minded intent with that line and others like it. I can’t prove it; just a feeling.

Mithrandir said:

a_moldey_waffle said:

There are too many moments like when Han runs into the frame for the first time and stands there, waiting for the audience to finish cheering before saying his first line. It’s also off putting the way these moments were structured in that they were paced out in small doses as the film progressed.

It’s like the filmmakers are going: Ok everybody it’s now time to clap for the falcon - 20 min later - Ok folks here comes Han, time for another applause - 20 more min - Now here’s Lei and C-3P0, more applause please.
This 4th walled exhibitionism of OT imagery and characters distracts from the core narrative, which is something a film should never do. You enjoyed those moments in the theater but I can bet you’ll be cringing when you watch the BD by yourself.

Exactly how I felt. I called it flatness in my review, but you put words to this a thousand times better than how I did. It’s a movie that has all the elements there, but it presents them in a way that you think to yourself: “Wow, they did Han appear through that door” instead of “Han appear throught that door”. The implicit but unquestionable presence of “they” is what makes me unable to enjoy the movie.

Yes, to me, it’s exactly how you said. It’s putting the fourth wall in constant jeopardy.

I like what you’re saying about the presence of “they”. That eloquently sums up what I was saying. These were moments where you could ‘feel’ the script almost. This certainly broke immersion for me personally.

Like I said, TFA is a great movie. Heroes are heroes, villains are villains, and we clearly and concisely know what is happening throughout the picture. This can’t be said of the prequel films. I just think TFA tries too hard to please and in doing so loses your immersion and the emotional connection (at least for me).

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#894503
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The Force Awakens: Official Review Thread - ** SPOILERS **
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Forgive me If I am repeating anything anyone else has said, I have not read through this entire thread. Just want to give some of my thoughts.

I think the notion that TFA is a well acted, directed, designed, and composed film (on a technical level) can not be disputed. The film follows Campbell’s pattern of the hero’s journey almost religiously (much like the original Star Wars) and through this finds much success. That combined with truly solid directing and staging makes for a film that certainly kept me invested from beginning to end. The lazy staging of the prequels (walking and talking, sitting on a couch in shot reverse shot telling the plot rather than showing it) is done away with in TFA. There is always action and the characters are always doing rather than saying. The story and action keeps moving forward. This is what makes a movie a movie, rather than a play. This is something George did not understand when making the prequels while J.J. on the other hand knows how to turn a narrative into compelling cinema. On that front, The Force Awakens is overall a well-executed film. “Faster and more intense” was certainly taken to heart.

Having said that, the biggest issue I have with The Force Awakens is that it is too reliant on exhibitionism and audience interaction. It is content to rest on the laurels of the franchise and let the already iconic imagery do the work without offering anything new to the table. There are too many moments like when Han runs into the frame for the first time and stands there, waiting for the audience to finish cheering before saying his first line. It’s also off putting the way these moments were structured in that they were paced out in small doses as the film progressed. It’s like the filmmakers are going: Ok everybody it’s now time to clap for the falcon - 20 min later - Ok folks here comes Han, time for another applause - 20 more min - Now here’s Lei and C-3P0, more applause please. This 4th walled exhibitionism of OT imagery and characters distracts from the core narrative, which is something a film should never do. You enjoyed those moments in the theater but I can bet you’ll be cringing when you watch the BD by yourself or with just a small number of people. Now, of course OT imagery is necessary in this film as it is a continuation of the story. My issue is not with the imagery itself but they way it is presented, pausing for applause and then moving on. The more subtle things such as the red screen on the Falcon turret was something I appreciated a whole lot more because it adheres to established visual continuity (which makes you feel like we are right back where we left off) without being in your face about it, unlike a lot of other moments.

Where the prequels failed as compelling cinema, they succeeded in contributing to the lore. Despite their poor execution as films (really poor execution) they, at the very least, are wholly original in both background narrative and mise en scene (in other words, iconic imagery such as coruscant, battle droids, etc.) TFA fails on this account.

I know this has been said before and many will be quick to jump on me because of it, but the term ‘fan film’ really does come to mind when thinking about The Force Awakens (Much like J.J.'s Star Trek and Into Darkness). The Force Awakens is, at the end of the day, a caricature of the the original films without any of the substance. There was true mysticism, spirituality, and meaning behind the original three films. There is real wisdom to be drawn from Yoda’s teachings for example. There is no such substance in The Force Awakens. In being so overtly celebratory of the original trilogy with the wink winks and 4th walled references, TFA ironically fails to understand and capture the real reason we love Star Wars; that is the emotional connection to the characters. Rey has no time to realistically develop as a character because she is too busy saying stuff like “You’re Han Solo! You made the Kessel run in 12 parsecs”. It’s very difficult to get pulled into a story when the film tries so hard to pull you back out with lines like that.

Sorry for making this so long, It was not what I intended when I started typing. I can’t help but ramble sometimes. There’s more stuff I wanted to touch on (which I did not like) such as marvel humor, the poor score, and more. Perhaps another time. Thanks for reading.

TLDR: The Force Awakens is a great action film worth seeing (as if anyone hasn’t seen it ;D). It was meticulously designed to do nothing more than please the general audience and it succeeds in achieving that goal. However it is too bogged down by reliance on exhibitionism and audience interaction and as such loses the emotional connection to the audience.

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#894338
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Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
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cfillak said:

No, you shouldn’t have to pay. That 502 message doesn’t indicate that the files are broken. With this free xsusenet account, you are limited to 3-4 simultaneous connections at once. Grabit will try to connect to whatever part of usenet it thinks it should grab the individual file from; sometimes it times out. Two things to try:

  1. Make sure you’re not on a network that blocks specific ports

  2. Make sure you’ve entered correct information in server properties:
    In left hand side of grabit you should see a bone icon titled “Grabit”, below you should see a computer looking icon titled "free.xsusenet.com"
    Right click free.xsusenet.com -> server properties -> make sure Hostname = free.xsusenet.com -> make sure Port = 119 -> make sure you’ve entered correct account name and password emailed to you by xsusenet -> make sure “Encrypted server connection (SSL)” checkbox is UNCHECKED

  3. Grabit is a bit unintuitive. If connection to a file fails, or if the 3-4 files that are successfully downloading finish, by default you have to manually right click on each file to retry connection. I only figured out after like day 2 or so that you can change settings to make all files auto-retry after a while:

Top bar of grabit -> Edit -> Preferences -> Advanced -> Check box titled “Automatically retry items in batch”. This made it so my download completed without my intervention.

It took awhile, and I was worried that when it was done, I wouldn’t be able to figure out how to transform all the rar and par files into what I wanted. It turns out Grabit does this for you automatically once the batch is finished downloading! Hope this helps

Thanks cfillak but I ended up caving and paying $10 for newshosting.com, another usenet provider. This fixed my problem immediately. I followed the rest of your steps (using newshosting instead of xsusenet) and everything went smoothly. It’s downloading now. Thanks for the help!

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#894152
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Preserving the...<em>cringe</em>...Star Wars Holiday Special (Released)
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cfillak said:

I figured out Usenet just to download the EditDroid Holiday Special. It’s definitely worth it. I was on Windows 10. Here’s a brief summary of what I did.

  1. Make a free account on XSUsenet: https://www.xsusenet.com/ (It’s slow but will get the job done)

  2. XSUsenet will email you username and password

  3. Download Grabit: http://www.shemes.com/ (This is what’s called a “newsreader” application)

  4. When you install Grabit, it will prompt you to enter a server name, as well as username and password.
    For server, Enter: free.xsusenet.com
    For username/password, enter the info XSUsenet emailed to you

  5. Go to the site www.binsearch.info, Search “Star Wars Holiday Special”

  6. The first result will be what you’re looking for.
    It will read: “The Star Wars Holiday Special - EditDroid - [000/165] - “Star Wars Holiday Special - EditDroid.nzb” yEnc (1/3)”

  7. In the box for this entry, there will be a link labelled “collection”. Click this

  8. Once the collection page loads, click “Inverse”, then “Create NZB”. This will download a .nzb file that points to all of the files in the “collection”. (From what I understand, a .nzb file is kind of like a torrent file)

  9. Load the .nzb file with Grabit. If everything is done correctly, Grabit should start downloading files from the collection.

I appreciate this comprehensive list. You’ve summed up in 9 steps what I’ve been trying to figure out for days now. However, when following your guide, I complete all the steps but in grabit all the files are broken. It says either article not found or 502 access denied (hit connection limit). Do I need a paid xsusenet account for this to work?