According to film cell pictures - that, of course, don’t reflect the actual quality, but gives you an hint - I’d say nope.
I made comparison with BD, and sadly it’s only the 1.85:1 version…
Meanwhile, may you send me just one minute untouched, from, let’s say, second VOB? TSmuxer should be able to do that.
Yes, frame blending is there - that’s why I posted the “double laser sword” screenshot! 😄
Still, DVD has the perspective fixed, so I don’t know that I can do with it, apart denoise, grain plate, and eventual deblocking and color correction.
Well, “Superbit” version seems pretty spot on, color wise, so I guess is from the same source; the quality should be checked, as PAL DVD admits also resolutions inferior to 720x576.
If you want to post few untouched frames with frame number, I could say if it’s better or not than SVCD; surely, the perspective is fixed, at the cost of few missing parts on the sides.
so what´s with your deleted sw movie projekt?
Halted, at least unless someone more skilled than me would be able to clean up EP 4,5,6 deleted scenes, and possibly colorize the b&w scenes - about this, there is a nice tutorial on doom9, under avisynth usage subforum.
Corners too huge to get good results! 😄
Lossless file has been immediately deleted due to HDD space!
Released.
Another two hours for the lossless encoding; add to this some time for the loss encoding and uploading; let’s say it should be up and ready in few hours… hold on! 😄
What is it?
Just the Centropy SVCD, theatrical cut, deblocked, denoised, regrained, upscaled, and with the perspective fixed; this leads to a strange aspect ratio (that remains the same for the whole movie, though!); no color/contrast change.
Examples (top SVCD bicubic, bottom UAR):
so, do not expect a miracle; just a less blocky, slightly cleaned, perspective fixed version, that’s all - if you can stand the strange aspect ratio… 😄
File is AVC 1280x720 (so with added black bars on top and bottom) 3mbps, AC3 192kbps dual mono track; muxed in a .mkv file, BD compliant.
Released on the usual internal organ… enjoy!
Mediainfo:
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If someone is interested in the bizarre UAR version, a 8m15s 160MB test clip is ready - drop me a PM for the link!
Looks good, but the image is a bit NSFW. I didn’t quite realize that until I clicked it! Haha 😛
…you could see the same on many TV spots and magazines, so… 😄
Well, I tinkered with the idea of making a fan edit a long ago, so maybe UAR + color correction + (slight) fan edit (only added crawl, cut original title, Jedi statue flipped to have better continuity) could be a nice project.
So, at the end, there are four possible versions:
UAR (no color correction, no edits)
UAR + color correction
UAR fan-edit
UAR fan edit + color correction
I’m keen to release the first and the last.
Of course original audio would also be included - but it will be re-encoded in the (eventual) fan edit.
Opinions?
Good job with the testclip. Can you make a version without the opening crawl?
Thansk!
Of course, I could make a “plain” version, simply UAR, no added crawl, no color correction etc. - even if I think it will be a bit boring… 😄
Bobson Dugnutt, I appreciate what you are doing.
But the perspective adjustment, even if technically correct, it is not the only possible way to fix it…
Yes, there is another unorthodox method to get the perspective right, preserving more details on both sides, at the cost of diagonal lateral sides…
top Bobson Dugnutt, middle mine (using PAL SVCD), bottom HDTV:
as you can see, the perspective is (more or less) in line, while there are more image on both “triangular slices” at the sides; also, image is a bit better due to increased resolution of PAL SVCD (480x576) in comparison to VCD (352x240/288). NOTE: final version will got both top quadrilateral vertices touching the screen sides, here they are moved to align with the HDTV.
Now, if someone could be interested in a such bizarre version (that, techically, is another UAR), please let me know.
Added the crawl, and consequentely cut the title.
Test clip: http://www89.zippyshare.com/v/nKCrBCkx/file.html
just the first few minutes with the crawl and following shots, and the scenes before and after the place where there were the title - only UAR, no color correction for the moment.
Audio mix is what it is - less than perfect, but it works… all proudly done in avisynth!
Feedbacks are welcome!
Yeah, the promotional still is a Photoshop of several different frames, so that you can have both Rey and Finn in good poses plus a good explosion, plus the tie fighter firing all in one image.
…Mulder’s plate was right… “TRUSTNO1”! 😄
You should watch a movie in UAR to decide… why don’t you give it Resident Evil a try, for example?
@Sir Ridley:
about WOWOW: http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/Star-Wars-SDTV-and-HDTV-digital-broadcast-database/id/17744
Agree that regrade in not really necessary, as overall colors are usually good; and yes, in some shots are clipped; it’s a compromise to obtain more details on darkest shots, and get that “filmic look” that I like; also, get rid of the magenta blanket is a nice result IMHO.
And, if someone would like to get the original colors, read the previous post! 😄
@schorman13: haven’t the possibility to burn a BD-R, so can’t test it on an hardware player, even if it would be nice if someone could do it! What I can say is it seems to work on any widespread free software players, but only for scenes "YAO"ized up to 1 minute long (if longer, some skip one frame every minute), while others works perfectly for any lenght (namely, MPV and SVPlayer); I usually build YAO subs with 1s/2s long subs, so if one would like to go FFW/REW, the eventual part without subs is limited to 1s/2s max.
I guess if someone has ultimately done this project.
If not, and there is still some interest, I could do it (thanks do Adywan that kindly donated the restored scene), along with color correction (using the DCP trailer as a loose color reference), and with a YAO hack that will cover the “exceeding” image on top and bottom of the IMAX scene, leaving the movie OAR for the VAR haters (sacrificing only those three brief cropped shots inside that IMAX scene).
Also, BD image may be eventually improved using the WOWOW recording.
By the way, I’ve discovered that the IMAX picture found here (http://media.washtimes.com.s3.amazonaws.com/media/image/2015/12/16/film_review-the_force_awakens.jpeg) - that is 1.33:1, by the way - has been recomposited (unless BD/HDTV were recomposited instead, but I don’t think it’s the case)
As you can see, Finn and part of the dust cloud behind him are the same, while the rest is different…
@Ronster: watching a movie in VAR (variable aspect ratio) may be more distracting than watching one in UAR - depending on movies, of course!
@ThiefCobbler4ever: yes, “officialy” now U stands for Ultimate; unofficialy, you can always use your own preferred adjective - a bit like NTSC, Never Twice Same Color! 😄
It’s interesting to note that sometimes UAR has more image even on one side, in comparison to letterbox version:
Just a custom color correction, to have “nicer” colors/contrast, with no color reference.
Alien: Resurrection - UAR test clip (1m52s, 135MB, 10mbps, no audio, no color regraded):
http://www90.zippyshare.com/v/fImMK1yV/file.html (temporary link, so hurry up!)
It’s rock solid stable, and the aspect ratio stay the same for the whole clip, despite a lot of shots; I briefly inspected the rest of the movie, and it seems most part will be the same, so a good change to watch an UAR movie for the people who suffer of “aspect ratio changes sickness”!
Feedbacks are welcome!
" it " from 1990 would be great.
It seems the fullscreen and letterbox color gradings are way too different to match perfectly, but I will be happy to be in error!
I’m thinking to release a remastered version; colors would be even closer to the laserdisc used as reference, and it will be 1.78:1 open matte, with frame size a bit bigger than WEB version: http://ultimateaspectratio.co.nf/comparisons/Waterworld_WEB_vs_FC.html
Opinions?
