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- #229844
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- Quit Whining
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- #229843
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- No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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And yes, the thing about Vader being the Jedi, of course that's the real reason he's asking "How is this possible?", but to people watching it for the first time could think he's just talking about another Jedi existing. But this scene actually works much better if you watch the whole saga in episode order anyway. Vader being the real father is no secret anymore anyway, thanks to pop culture.
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- #229836
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- Quit Whining
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Anyways, no problem. It's my pleasure to entertain douchebags.
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- #229833
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- Quit Whining
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Originally posted by: SpecialEditionSaboteur
Where in this statement is it implied that you know Greedo never fired a shot, let alone that you know a damn thing about what you're talking about?
You know, Greedo's always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters, but ever since the special editions everyone's been whining about him shooting first and missing, and now he's changed into a one-dimensional character who misses all the time just because you people can't accept the fact your precious Star Wars movies were changed.
And why is it that if anyone actually doesn't mind what Lucas does with his movies, it means they're "tongue is in Lucas' rectum?" So I can't have an opinion supporting Lucas unless I'm in love with him or sexually attracted to him, right? Where in this statement is it implied that you know Greedo never fired a shot, let alone that you know a damn thing about what you're talking about?
You know, Greedo's always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters, but ever since the special editions everyone's been whining about him shooting first and missing, and now he's changed into a one-dimensional character who misses all the time just because you people can't accept the fact your precious Star Wars movies were changed.
If you want people to take you seriously and understand what you're saying then you should learn how to talk. Taking your tongue out of Lucas' rectum may assist you in achieving that goal.
Here: If you want people to take you seriously and understand what you're saying then you should learn how to talk. Taking your tongue out of Lucas' rectum may assist you in achieving that goal.
You know, Greedo's always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters, but ever since the special editions everyone's been whining about him shooting first and missing, and now he's changed into a one-dimensional character who misses all the time just because you people can't accept the fact your precious Star Wars movies were changed.
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- #229829
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- No explanation necessary (but we got one anyway)
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229829/action/topic#229829
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Obi-Wan saying that he had two pupils, Anakin Skywalker and Darth Vader: He said this in order to make the tale sound more dramatic to Luke and the audience, claiming that Darth Vader was a different pupil of his, showing that Darth Vader and Anakin Skywalker knew each other.
Obi-Wan not telling Luke his father was Vader: Okay, ever since the prequel trilogy, many mentally retarded people have been asking this for some odd reason. It was a fucking secret, they're not going to change that just because the prequel trilogy came out and not let Luke know his father was Vader.
Obi-Wan claiming he was trained by Yoda and not Qui-Gon: Why exactly would Luke need to know about Qui-Gon? He's in the snow, he's trying his best to stay alive, why would Obi-Wan say "Run to Dagobah, and find master Yoda. Oh and Qui-Gon taught me as a padawan."
The new emporer scene: Have you ever thought maybe Vader asks "how is this possible" because he's just in disbelief that a Jedi gave birth when it's against the Jedi code? I'd be surprised too.
"Jedi Rocks" being a song about Jedi after the extermination: Jabba knows about Jedi. Remember when he tells Bib that he was fooled about a Jedi mind trick? Jabba's lair is very secretive, there are absolutely no imperials there. So why not sing a song about Jedi? Now if Jedi Rocks was played in a cantina or something, that'd be a different story. Also note that even if there were stormtroopers there, they probably don't even know what Jedi are either, nor that they are supposed to be extinct. That's something only people who lived during the prequel trilogy would know.
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- #229821
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- Quit Whining
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229821/action/topic#229821
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I SAID that ever since the special editions people have been whining about Greedo shooting first, I thought it was IMPLIED that I knew the original versions had him not shooting first and that was why people started whining in the first place.
Fucking morons.
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- #229812
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- Quit Whining
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229812/action/topic#229812
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Maybe with a hippie beard.
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- #229810
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Originally posted by: Darth-Adroit
Good examples vote_for_palpatine. The way those items are expressed in the films only raises more questions. I mean how exactly does Yoda know about this “rule of two”? Should I assume he was a Sith? He sure seems to know more about the Dark Side than anyone in the films.
It kills me how George over-explains some things and then totally abandons other points that might benefit from further embellishment. How about someone explain to me what the Sith want revenge for? I mean that revenge is so important that it merited being the title of one of the films, but it was never explained. Who are the Sith seeking vengeance against? Is it the Jedi? Is it the Republic? Is it both? There are really only two lines in the PT that deal with the Sith and their motivations for revenge:
In TPM Maul says, “At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we will have our revenge”
So they will gain revenge by revealing themselves to the Jedi? This line doesn’t do much except reinforce the aforementioned rule of two. It is inferred that the Sith want revenge, but no motivation is revealed at any point in any of the movies.
In ROTS Mace says, “The oppression of the Sith will never return. Your plot to regain control of the Republic is over”
What does this really tell us about the Sith and their motivations? Well it indicates that the Sith once controlled the Republic and they were oppressive when they had that control. So what lost them their control? Perhaps the Jedi working in league with some sort of rebel group destroyed the Sith and took control. That would mean that the Sith want Revenge on both the Jedi and the Republic because they robbed them of their power. Of course I only reach that conclusion by making a bunch of assumptions and guesses, none of which are educated or based on anything more than conjecture.
In the end I know what the “New Hope” was, I know why and how the Empire Stuck Back and I know why the Jedi needed to return and how they did so. I know who the “Phantom Menace” was and I even saw a little bit of the Clones attacking. Shit I know why Dr. Evil wanted to get Austin Powers, but I don’t have a clue why the Sith wanted Revenge or what they wanted revenge for. I guess they just want revenge because that’s what bad guys want. One or two lines from ANY Sith could’ve provided an explanation, but I guess those had to be cut in the interest of more CG or juvenile humor.
Do you realize how hypocritical you're being? First you're saying how they explained things in the prequels you would've liked to imagine happen in your demented little head instead, yet now you're making it sound bad that they're making questions like that with the new prequels! There was a 16 year difference in between RotJ and TPM, why would you not want those questions answered? I think it was great the way George Lucas gave people all that time to answer them, so people could wonder for years and then finally find out the truely canon answer, than just releasing the prequels three years after RotJ. Of course, you people know nothing about being creative. Good examples vote_for_palpatine. The way those items are expressed in the films only raises more questions. I mean how exactly does Yoda know about this “rule of two”? Should I assume he was a Sith? He sure seems to know more about the Dark Side than anyone in the films.
It kills me how George over-explains some things and then totally abandons other points that might benefit from further embellishment. How about someone explain to me what the Sith want revenge for? I mean that revenge is so important that it merited being the title of one of the films, but it was never explained. Who are the Sith seeking vengeance against? Is it the Jedi? Is it the Republic? Is it both? There are really only two lines in the PT that deal with the Sith and their motivations for revenge:
In TPM Maul says, “At last we will reveal ourselves to the Jedi, at last we will have our revenge”
So they will gain revenge by revealing themselves to the Jedi? This line doesn’t do much except reinforce the aforementioned rule of two. It is inferred that the Sith want revenge, but no motivation is revealed at any point in any of the movies.
In ROTS Mace says, “The oppression of the Sith will never return. Your plot to regain control of the Republic is over”
What does this really tell us about the Sith and their motivations? Well it indicates that the Sith once controlled the Republic and they were oppressive when they had that control. So what lost them their control? Perhaps the Jedi working in league with some sort of rebel group destroyed the Sith and took control. That would mean that the Sith want Revenge on both the Jedi and the Republic because they robbed them of their power. Of course I only reach that conclusion by making a bunch of assumptions and guesses, none of which are educated or based on anything more than conjecture.
In the end I know what the “New Hope” was, I know why and how the Empire Stuck Back and I know why the Jedi needed to return and how they did so. I know who the “Phantom Menace” was and I even saw a little bit of the Clones attacking. Shit I know why Dr. Evil wanted to get Austin Powers, but I don’t have a clue why the Sith wanted Revenge or what they wanted revenge for. I guess they just want revenge because that’s what bad guys want. One or two lines from ANY Sith could’ve provided an explanation, but I guess those had to be cut in the interest of more CG or juvenile humor.
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- #229805
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- Quit Whining
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- https://originaltrilogy.com/post/id/229805/action/topic#229805
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How could you people be so selfish? You've been whining for the original versions, you're getting the original versions, and now you want more. You actually, for once, WANT them to edit the original versions to your liking instead of getting the exact same experience you got in theaters almost 30 years ago. You're getting what you asked for, yet you want more. You people make me sick.
I can imagine the person who started this site. He's probably some 40-year old virgin who has the stature of a baby and lives with his mom, crying in his stroller "I WANT DA ORIGINAL STAR WARS MOVIES!!! WAH!!!" while his embarrased mom tries to shut him up when she's about to see Revenge of the Sith.
You know, Greedo's always been one of my favorite Star Wars characters, but ever since the special editions everyone's been whining about him shooting first and missing, and now he's changed into a one-dimensional character who misses all the time just because you people can't accept the fact your precious Star Wars movies were changed.
Quit bitching, you selfish bastards. Just shut up. You've gotten enough from your whining, enough to close down this stupid site once and for all.
Oh, and are you going to delete my post? Hmmm? Is that how you're going to counter me? Because I thought we believed in free speech, and seeing how this post hasn't broken any of the rules (maybe cursing, but that could easily be edited), I don't see any reason in it being deleted. Oh wait, no, you guys probably don't believe in free speech, and that's probably why you keep bitching at George Lucas for original versions when he's free to release whatever he wants. Fucking communists.