the thread is an origin to rally fans of the original films against this GROSS misrepresentation of the true fanbase. Those people live in a bizzarro universe, where normal people have been driven out by radical sections of the fan base.. Up is down. Han Solo shot last.
Sadly, I believe that Lucasfilm may see them as representative of the whole fan base, and the cause for the Original Trilogy will continue to wane.
At some point, that "front" must be won. It is the Bastogne of the original trilogy campaign...
Personally, it isn't the generalizing that bothers me. Though I can see how that would lead to hostile debating. Nothing is more infuriating that saying one aspect of the Saga is imperfect and being told what your opinion of everything else. You are so right - and it would be wrong to stereotype all the users on TF.n or all the mods in the same way we get stereotyped.
The real beef is that one side of the fence moderates biasly against the other. Or that a group of them work in tandem - coordinating through PM - to 'attack' critical opinions.
I think it is safe to say that there is a very specific group of fans who are fanatic. And generalizations about this group aren't really generalization - simply definition. And a lot of people fall in the middle, who don't really have a side. And even a lot of OT fans - whom aren't bashers per se - are attacked by the "fanatics" simply for being critical. For example, O-OT fans are all labeled "hypocritical" because some support fan edits, which 1) is a direct flame and 2) has been ingrained in the community through repetition by gushers and 3) supported by mods; when that is simply not true nor should be allowed by any TOS or respectable forum.
People are people. And that's where most of us differ from the "fanatics." We're not devout, we're open-minded people who like somethings in the Saga and dislike other aspects, and realize everyone has an opinion. But to this group - we are all enemies.
Originally posted by: Mr Bungle Least when I am here I will never see a thread like it did there "is Star Wars(ANH) meh?" and was shocked to find out it was actually started by a mod, and I bet there would be mega complaints if someone posted a thread "is Revenge Of The Sith meh?" there and the Classic Trilogy forum seems just so anti anything pre 97 its unbelievable, and its great there are people here who love the first film and dont class it as meh and love the original films.
and therein lies the problem... sites like TF.n and obviously Lucas' own SW.com have slowly allowed their ranks to be filled with Mods and Admins who would just as soon spit on the originals and love the prequels. This fanatic sect of fandom, which is outnumbered and outclassed obscenely in any normal population sampling, has screamed loud enough in these fan clubs and wedged their way in so they dominate the "collective opinion."
Frankly - they are misrepresenting the SW fanbase, in my opinion. How many people do you know, in normal everyday life, who actually like the Prequels? I could go systematically through my entire building, almost a 1000 poeple, and I would be lucky to find one person. I may not even find one person.
But the Original Star Wars, the guy in the cube next to me, and the one two down, and the Director in that corner, and our CEO and like half the population LOVES THE ORIGINAL FILMS. That is fandom. Check media, magazines, TV shows, talk shows, newspapers, radio, film or wherever. The collective opinion is that STAR WARS ROCKS. And Jar Jar sucks.
Am I wrong?
Just most fans are "casual fans". They don't visit websites. Most people don't know about this petition. They don't realize that a large group of "fanatics" (and I use fanatics because that is what they've become, like a cult operating in denial of the outside world, joint attacks on outside opinion and self-congratulatory parades) have managed to exert themselves to represent the 'fan's opinion:' Oh yes, George, continue to mutilate the old films, I love how you stuck a teenager with a mullet in the ghost scene. we love it, George, here's more changes, more, more!
anyways, i knew there'd be like minded people here, original fans. i've been a fan since 77 and I was only 6 and have loved SW all that time... but seriously, the current division in fandom is licensing Lucas to continue to destroy the original films. and the more TF.N and SW.com push the old school fans away, so our voice won't be heard, then that is going to further encourage them to slap JarJar into the Battle of Endor somehow or systematically shorten Vader in every film to meet Hayden's size... this site is probably the best thing that has ever been done for the original films, and it's going to continue - some of us just feel that at some point, we're going to have to shout louder, in every corner
I travel this way to a land of like minds. Those whom believe in artistic integrity, the preservation of film and radically oppose the dismembering of a once great franchise for the almighty dollar and Lucas's ego. Many like us have been pushed out of fandom by prequel fans, both by mob assaults on other forums and even by their own appointed mods infiltrating SW fan sites in droves.
So I ask, whom has seen the once great theForce.net crumble, or felt the unfairness in the new fan order?
