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#1316347
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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ray_afraid said:

Wanderer_ said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Wanderer_ said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Marjorie Eaton with chimp eyes looks like “a guy in a cheap mask”, whilst Ian McDiarmid in cheap ROTS makeup looks “remastered”.

I don’t share that opinion, either.

Both have make up effects applied, the original holds up poorly whereas Ians make up looks a lot more organic and believable. In fact while watching the original version i always felt the emperors face was about to melt off at any stage of the movie.
https://images.app.goo.gl/kVczqCH7ggaiEoDM9

Well, if you compare Revisited Palpatine to OUT Palpatine, of course the former’s gonna look superior to the latter.

I assumed that was the comparison :p
Unless there is yet another change i haven’t seen.

We’re discussing the 2004 change where George replaced the original ESB Emperor with the horrible RotS monster face Emperor. Not Adywan’s excellent fanedit.

I honestly never noticed the difference, in my mind the emperor was always Ian.

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#1316334
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Wanderer_ said:

DuracellEnergizer said:

Marjorie Eaton with chimp eyes looks like “a guy in a cheap mask”, whilst Ian McDiarmid in cheap ROTS makeup looks “remastered”.

I don’t share that opinion, either.

Both have make up effects applied, the original holds up poorly whereas Ians make up looks a lot more organic and believable. In fact while watching the original version i always felt the emperors face was about to melt off at any stage of the movie.
https://images.app.goo.gl/kVczqCH7ggaiEoDM9

Well, if you compare Revisited Palpatine to OUT Palpatine, of course the former’s gonna look superior to the latter.

I assumed that was the comparison :p
Unless there is yet another change i haven’t seen.

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#1316170
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Rey & Kylo Ren's Relationship...
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nl0428 said:

Wanderer_ said:

DominicCobb said:

Yes, I tend to think that “Rey shouldn’t love abusive man” is a sort of one dimensional way of viewing their relationship.

What other way is it? She fell for him because he has a nice body (TLJ scene) and because JJ Abrahams wanyed to redeem another villain so badly. Kylo is a man child, he is a murderer and the only interaction he has with Rey is during fights… Its so messed up.

I think it’s quite obvious that they came together based on their lives and growing up lonely wanting a family.

Ben had a family, one that he not only left, but actually killed off. Another thing, its hard to believe that Rey would fall for the guy who killed the closest father figure she had in this whole trilogy - Hans. This is just Twilight levels of masoquism.

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#1315972
Topic
Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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DuracellEnergizer said:

Marjorie Eaton with chimp eyes looks like “a guy in a cheap mask”, whilst Ian McDiarmid in cheap ROTS makeup looks “remastered”.

I don’t share that opinion, either.

Both have make up effects applied, the original holds up poorly whereas Ians make up looks a lot more organic and believable. In fact while watching the original version i always felt the emperors face was about to melt off at any stage of the movie.
https://images.app.goo.gl/kVczqCH7ggaiEoDM9

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#1315952
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Rey & Kylo Ren's Relationship...
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DominicCobb said:

Yes, I tend to think that “Rey shouldn’t love abusive man” is a sort of one dimensional way of viewing their relationship.

What other way is it? She fell for him because he has a nice body (TLJ scene) and because JJ Abrahams wanyed to redeem another villain so badly. Kylo is a man child, he is a murderer and the only interaction he has with Rey is during fights… Its so messed up.

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#1315742
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Most Disappointing / Satisfying Aspect of the Sequel Trilogy?
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Haarspalter said:

FreezingTNT2 said:

Hal 9000 said:

My biggest overall disappointment with the sequel trilogy is probably that it chose, perhaps not all at once, to pattern itself after the originals to the point that it retells the Empire vs Rebels story almost to a tee. It ends in essentially the same place as does ROTJ, feeling like it recapitulate the story rather than truly continuing it.

The most satisfying part for me has been Luke’s journey from traumatized recluse to revivified Jedi Master ready to nonviolently kick ass. It was a gift horse I looked in the mouth, but has been worth being patient for myself to appreciate. This is the diamond in the rough, woven into the soil of the retread that TFA set in motion.

And that’s why bringing back Darth Sidious destroys Anakin’s sacrifice and redemption in Return of the Jedi.

What ‘sacrifice’ are you talking about? Last time i checked ROTJ Darth Vader lifted up the Emperor and throwed him down a shaft. It would have been a ‘sacrifice’ if Vader jumped WITH the Emperor down the shaft.

Vader died in the process. The electrocution fried his body and suit.

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#1315093
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Why don't people hate the Palpatine re-casting in ESB yet despise Force ghost Anakin's re-casting in RotJ?
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The emperor in the originals looked like a guy in a cheap mask. So when i was a kid and watched the new editions of ESB it just looked like it was a remastered version of the emperor.

In comparison to Anakins ghost, there was nothing wrong with the original version… In fact Haydens creeper face felt like a downgrade.

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#1315043
Topic
Episode VIII : The Last Jedi - Discussion * <strong><em>SPOILER THREAD</em></strong> *
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Biggs Audio Dynamite said:

oojason said:

Bar calling out the toxic fans - the racists, sexists, homophobes, trolls, death threat makers and announcers, and bullies who chase people involved in films they don’t like off the internet etc… I haven’t seen quotes from Rian Johnson chastising genuine criticism of The Last Jedi - I’ve only seen quotes from him stating he was perfectly fine with fans expressing genuine criticism of the film.

Perhaps someone can provide quotes from him to the contrary? (I am somewhat surprised nobody has done so previously.)
 

I don’t think anyone has posted them because such quotes don’t exist. To me it is a myth, spread by people looking to continue the hate on the TLJ film or the man who made it.

Personally I find such claims to be actually toxic, as they are without foundation or fact. Both a lie and smear. Rinsed and repeated.

I like TLJ overall, yet the film still has several big issues for me, but I’m not going to lie and make up shit about it or about the people who worked on it, and I don’t understand people who do.

If Rian Johnson called out a bunch of people fitting the descriptions you posted then good on him. I wish more would.

Im not a fan of TLJ, and i can find tons of videos and articles discussing it in a unbiased, unprejudiced way. In fact i would say TLJ fans are the ones who just use racism and sexism as a card against people who have genuine criticism of the movie. Its quite toxic really, and sad that Rian Johnson fans dont have any issues in thrashing people and the franchise to protect the vision of one dude.
People didnt like Rose because she was a waste, not because she was a female. People want Rey to show weakness because thats what a hero should do, not because shes a female. People hated on Finns arc because it was a waste and pointless, not cause he’s black. People hated on Holdo because she was an incompetent leader, not because she was a female. People dont like Poes arc because the movie makes him look incompetent just to prove a point and serve Holdos motivations, not because he is a man. People hated Lukes arc because he already had his evolution as a character in the OT, now his job was to pass on the torch, not to go back to the drawing board.

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#1315039
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Most Disappointing / Satisfying Aspect of the Sequel Trilogy?
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I adored Reys introduction in TFA, i adored the chemistry between Poe and Finn, and i loved that movie in general… Its just the movies that followed did not stick the landing. In the end the most disappointing thing is the constant retconing of elements of the OT. Lukes receded as a character after a perfect Hero arc, Leia and Hans turn out to be loser dads and Vaders redemption was in vain. I have to do a mental exercise of notes to forget this trilogy existed.