I’ll believe it when I see it. Also even if they do go through with it, they’re probably going to do something horrendous to it. Maybe it’ll be green or yellow, or be DNR’d to hell.
For me its Visions Ronin. The entire episode from start to finish. Its feels like if Kurosawa made Star Wars.
The idea a Sith can be a good guy or at least morally grey is very outside the box from the idea of George Lucas good guys and bad guys, and good guys use blue and green, bad guys use red.
The idea of good Sith and Evil Jedi is only hinted in EU in things like the OLD Republic MMO.
The only other example I can think of is the Kotor comic where the masters commit murder and frame a padawan. Zayne Carrick.
Ronin is cool but I don’t think he’s supposed to be a good guy, and the idea of Good Sith is lame. It’s very much in the box for people who believe in gray jedi, balance in the force means equal light side and dark side, etc. which is a large part of the fans.
The Acolyte is another prominent example recently.
It looks nice but there is something elegant about the original blaster fire being streaks of pure red.
A full, official interactive map of the Star Wars galaxy has been restored on StarWars.com.
The map will be updated periodically as new planets are revealed.
Check out the Interactive Map of the Star Wars Galaxy here: www.starwars.com/star-wars-galaxy-map
He was talking about the physical geography on the planets themselves.
For the second game, I would definitely try out the “content restored” mod that reintroduces a lot of content that was cut from the game due to rushed production. Otherwise you can just play the versions on steam or console.
The Steam one had an update that includes restored content by default, but there are fan mods that go a little further. I will say though that a lot of people overestimate how much was cut and think the story is confusing because of cut content, and not because they didn’t go through the effort of figuring it out through dialogue or looking around.
EU purists who insist it was a part of George’s vision and that the prequel and the EU all fits together as one piece.
Who insist the Saga was always about the father, the son and grandchildren. And the bending over backwards and stretching things to act like EU wasn’t just a way for George to make lots of money on tie in fiction. That he was in no way beholden to, but could borrow from if he so desired.
I may agree with them on Disney SW to an extent, and even on Filoni retcons and destruction of the EU lore. But to act like the prequel was perfect and also didn’t destroy SW canon is incongruous. And its George’s vision the original must be suppressed, George as godhead in a religion, I reject that.
There was one continuity and canon I’ll admit that before Disney made the Expanded Universe legends. But Lucasfilm always put films and tv projects above video games, comic books and novels.
And George allowed Filoni to do whatever he wanted and to throw out the EU completely. It’s like there were two Star Wars universes before there were three branches, but Filoni was taken up into Disney Star Wars and EU was abandoned, made Legends aka lies, tall tales.
My philosophy with Star Wars Canon is pretty simple: I consider Canon whatever I like, and I just ignore what I don’t. I don’t care what George thought was Canon, or what Lucasfilm labeled as “C-Canon” or “G-Canon” or “Legends” or whatever. If I like the story, the characters, the way it expands the universe, then it’s Canon to me. Period. And if something feels off, ruins characters, breaks internal logic, or just rubs me the wrong way, I don’t care how official it is. I just mentally toss it out. As simple as that.
So say we all!
EU purists who insist it was a part of George’s vision and that the prequel and the EU all fits together as one piece.
Who insist the Saga was always about the father, the son and grandchildren. And the bending over backwards and stretching things to act like EU wasn’t just a way for George to make lots of money on tie in fiction. That he was in no way beholden to, but could borrow from if he so desired.
I may agree with them on Disney SW to an extent, and even on Filoni retcons and destruction of the EU lore. But to act like the prequel was perfect and also didn’t destroy SW canon is incongruous. And its George’s vision the original must be suppressed, George as godhead in a religion, I reject that.
There was one continuity and canon I’ll admit that before Disney made the Expanded Universe legends. But Lucasfilm always put films and tv projects above video games, comic books and novels.
And George allowed Filoni to do whatever he wanted and to throw out the EU completely. It’s like there were two Star Wars universes before there were three branches, but Filoni was taken up into Disney Star Wars and EU was abandoned, made Legends aka lies, tall tales.
Agreed. The EU was more done with George’s permission, rather than something he was actively going out of his way to design or make congruous in any way.
Hopes:
Of course an official announcement that the OT Theatrical Cuts are going to be released from Lucas’ ego prison. Not gonna happen…
Expectations:
- Several OT, PT, ST actors make an appearence and talk about their Star Wars filming experience
- George Lucas on stage talking about how Star Wars is a kids movie. Prepare for “always-intended” facts & figures…
- Kathleen Kennedy on stage talking about what an amazing experience Star Wars was/is for her
- Anouncement, teaser or trailer for new live-action movie or trilogy
- New Star Wars content for Disney+ anouncement
bingo
For nostalgia - what you said before was that it was some Plinkett thing. What Plinkett was talking about at the time (2012 apparently) was original trilogy fans who went into the prequels excited about it and willing to overlook any problems because they were already fans. That was true to some extent. What we’re talking about today with nostalgia is largely younger millennials and Gen Z kids who watched the prequels as children, played prequel-themed video games, watched The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network, and so on. You might be in this demographic, I don’t know. In any case, they don’t really understand the context or why there was so much backlash, they just watch a video about how people were mean to Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best and George Lucas and think that that means the original fans were just big meanies, and not that there were serious quality issues with the script and production that caused genuine disappointment. They were too young to think about it, and today refuse to engage with it critically beyond video essays about how the prequels were underrated. That’s what we mean by nostalgia.
I’m saying that’s used even now and it falls apart as a claim under scrutiny, as it’s one proven false based on people who watch the PT movies, for the first time in present day apparently and like them. TCW addition has nothing to do with what I said.
The context is only in the emotions of fans at the time. Everything in the movies, for those that watch them now, is still there. How actors were treated also has no relevance to what I said, because it means nothing to whether or not they like the movie.
The cloners in that scenario are affiliated with Jango Fett, who they know definitely tried to kill Padme. It’s an obvious connection to make and not literally just about the Kaminoans. The connection is confirmed when Jango is working directly for Dooku. All the actions line up. Trying to kill the most prominent public figure arguing against war, setting up an army in secret, then setting up another army in secret to fight that army. It’s not rocket science. Even without the Separatists, it makes sense for someone plotting a war to raise an army and kill the person trying to oppose an army.
The scene is about the cloners. That’s what they ask Obi about, if they were behind it and Obi replies about them having no motive. You said Obi stupidly says that there appears to be no motive to Yoda about the cloners. How is that stupid of him in that scene?
As for everything else, I criticized that not being explored. But that doesn’t change that you expect them to assume it’s fact without any evidence. I think that this could’ve been done better and it’s a weak writing thing in the movie, but it doesn’t do much, as the Jedi can’t do anything about it even if the movie weighed in on it more, as they have no proof, just assumptions.
Do you understand how a military works? It requires serious coordination between thousands or tens of thousands of people. The clones have to be put under some kind of command structure. Yoda didn’t do all that himself in 10 minutes before they all flew to Geonosis. There were star destroyers and troop carriers and tanks all ready to go, so either those were built on Kamino as well (unlikely, we don’t see that at all and it’s a huge ocean) or someone in the Republic had them ready to go and kept it secret. There would have to be a pretty decent sized paper trail to investigate, and they just don’t seem to care.
I always thought that everything the clones had were kaminoan built. It’s a huge facility, that I think we certainly don’t see all of. They get their armors and weapons there. I don’t see why I shouldn’t have the perspective the ships were from there too.
Yes I know Yoda says that. It’s like Dooku was doing some goofy reverse psychology thing. “If I tell them everything that’s going on, they won’t believe me and they’ll think the opposite!” And they just fall for it because they’re written as morons. They don’t do anything about the senate.
They said they would keep a close eye on the senate. That doesn’t make it so they’d do anything, especially if nothing particularly happens in the senate for them to do anything about. When something does happen, like Palpatine being given more emergency powers and Palpatine putting Anakin on the council as his representative in the movies, the Jedi do start to do stuff. Like I said, I don’t take real issue with criticizing that we don’t see it, really, but the Jedi do still have some engagement in the situation.
What Han does is completely different from Anakin and apparently you didn’t read what I said. Anakin complains about his personal life, tells her that he’s obsessed with her, leers at her in a way that makes her uncomfortable, says that she’s in his soul tormenting him, etc. It’s weird and no real woman would ever be into that unless she had such an extreme physical attraction that she didn’t care. Maybe that’s all it was. Han is being cocky and brash and aggressive, but he isn’t telling Leia he’s obsessed with her or having dreams about her or putting her on a pedestal. When he’s complaining and yelling he’s teasing her. He impresses her with genuine confidence, competence, and skill. He’s playing the “bad boy” persona, which is a cliche but it’s absolutely true and not just a Hollywood thing. Anakin is the weirdo “nice guy.”
I read it and I think it’s bunk. Han leers, complains about Leia not showing her feelings to him, is fairly pervy. As if that’s not weird. No, I think Han complaining and yelling isn’t teasing her in that scene. He’s depicted as being petty and venting, to me. The teasing part comes later and is where the pervy attitude starts.
All I think you’re using is weak generic concepts, bad boy, nice guy. It means nothing. I criticize the writing of Anakin and Padme’s relationship, but thin, to me, terms like creepy or weird being used suggesting it somehow is worse than Han means nothing to me.
What is a criticism of it, to me, is that Han and Leia I think are stronger written, in structure, because Han and Leia in ANH were more like peers and when we see them in TESB they are heavily implied to have worked together for a time, which I think allows a lot of the heavy lifting of the relationship to already be done. Anakin and Padme don’t get that writing allowance. I can criticize Han and Leia, in that we barely actually explore Leia’s side of this issue and the tension angle is fairly cheap to me, along with Han’s whiny attitude, but that doesn’t mean I don’t think it’s stronger written. I’m just against the thin, to me, complaints about Anakin being called creepy.
I’m not talking about your personal anecdotes or you personally, I’m talking about a general trend. I have my own anecdote where I showed family members all six movies for the first time in release order, and they both liked the original trilogy more, and had basically all the same criticisms people had of the prequels when they first came out, with the notable exception that they loved Jar Jar. If there are people who like them after seeing them for the first time, that doesn’t say how much they like them, why they like them, or whether they have any taste in movies. Some people just like anything that has a lot of spectacle.
I looked it up again and this is the direct quote:
“Mace: Do you think these cloners are involved in the plot to assassinate Senator Amidala?
Obi-Wan: No, Master, there appears to be no motive.
Yoda: Do not assume anything, Obi-Wan. Clear, your mind must be, if you are to discover the real villains behind this plot.”
They easily count as “involved in the plot”, and you can put together that assassinating an anti-war figure while creating an army seems like a pretty clear motive. The reason for starting a war would be more ambiguous (you might suspect it’s arms dealers for example), but starting a war is clearly what the “real villains” want, and the cloners are clearly “involved” with that. I guess if you’re taking it strictly literally then all the Kaminoans themselves want is money, yes, but they’re still a part of the plot.
The Jedi could do something about it and find proof, but they never do. Even in EU material and TCW, they don’t even try, maybe because it would be too obvious and make the plot unravel. There were parts in Revenge of the Sith where they discuss who Sifo Dyas was and what exactly happened, but they were cut for time. It just seems like it should be a much bigger priority and something they could check on.
For the Han Solo/Anakin stuff I have to conclude that you don’t have very much real life experience with certain social situations and dynamics. The stereotypes are based on real things that happen, which is why one strikes people as plausible and engaging and the other strikes people as uncomfortable and bizarre. This even goes across cultural boundaries - I was reading a manga from the 2000s the other day where the author joked about how there was no way Padme would fall for Anakin. There’s modern day criticism that Han is being too aggressive in the kissing scene on the Falcon, but it’s not because the characters are written or portrayed unrealistically, it’s more about the cultural messaging it has. Their bickering, banter, back and forth snipping, etc. are a kind of flirting.
It’s nostalgia.
You’re basically just making up things here.
The evidence is that Jango Fett was hired to kill Padme and is also the template for the clone army, tries to kill Obi Wan, and goes directly from Kamino to the secret droid factory headquarters on Geonosis. This is brought up to Obi Wan and he very stupidly goes “no there appears to be no motive” and then Yoda says “do not assume anything,” and then they never talk about it again. The idea that a Jedi master goes out of their way to pay for a gigantic army of millions of troops and ships, in secret, for an unknown purpose, without telling anyone, and there’s no further investigation into it is just insane. If anyone in the Republic is involved at all in any capacity, which they would have to be to manage hundreds of star destroyers right away, that’s already a conspiracy. Count Dooku straight up tells them everything about Darth Sidious and they don’t even think it’s worthwhile to check. People put this up to the Jedi’s supposed “hubris” but it’s not hubris, it’s that they’re being written as morons. They don’t do the basic kind of stuff you would see in the first 20 minutes of an episode of a police procedural.
That’s not in the post I responded to. It said seeing the droid army and the clone army in the same day.
And I brought up my criticism about the connection between Dooku and Jango and the Jedi not looking into it further.
Obi-Wan saying there appears to be no motive and Yoda saying to assume nothing happens before geonosis and is about the cloners involvement in the assassination on Padme.
Manage hundreds of star destroyers right away? What does that have to do with anything? Where’s it said anyone is managing star destroyers?
The Jedi outright talk about this, that they don’t trust Dooku’s word, seeing it as a way to creating mistrust and they also agree to keep an eye on the Senate after this. Criticize that we don’t see it much, to me, yeah, but you seem to suggest that it’s not there.
Han is very masculine, Anakin isn’t. He’s being a “scoundrel” but Leia is ultimately into it. He’s getting her to more consciously recognize her latent attraction to him. Anakin starts in the friend zone, and openly lusts, whines, complains, discusses sand, commits mass murder, and then somehow at the end of it Padme is deeply in love with him. The facial expressions are just one part of it.
You basically just said nothing about the Han thing. Han openly lusts, whines, complains. Like I said before, the tuskens are after the mass bulk of the romance has happened. I can see that, but that’s not what nearly all of their romance building is about.
For nostalgia - what you said before was that it was some Plinkett thing. What Plinkett was talking about at the time (2012 apparently) was original trilogy fans who went into the prequels excited about it and willing to overlook any problems because they were already fans. That was true to some extent. What we’re talking about today with nostalgia is largely younger millennials and Gen Z kids who watched the prequels as children, played prequel-themed video games, watched The Clone Wars on Cartoon Network, and so on. You might be in this demographic, I don’t know. In any case, they don’t really understand the context or why there was so much backlash, they just watch a video about how people were mean to Jake Lloyd and Ahmed Best and George Lucas and think that that means the original fans were just big meanies, and not that there were serious quality issues with the script and production that caused genuine disappointment. They were too young to think about it, and today refuse to engage with it critically beyond video essays about how the prequels were underrated. That’s what we mean by nostalgia.
The cloners in that scenario are affiliated with Jango Fett, who they know definitely tried to kill Padme. It’s an obvious connection to make and not literally just about the Kaminoans. The connection is confirmed when Jango is working directly for Dooku. All the actions line up. Trying to kill the most prominent public figure arguing against war, setting up an army in secret, then setting up another army in secret to fight that army. It’s not rocket science. Even without the Separatists, it makes sense for someone plotting a war to raise an army and kill the person trying to oppose an army.
Do you understand how a military works? It requires serious coordination between thousands or tens of thousands of people. The clones have to be put under some kind of command structure. Yoda didn’t do all that himself in 10 minutes before they all flew to Geonosis. There were star destroyers and troop carriers and tanks all ready to go, so either those were built on Kamino as well (unlikely, we don’t see that at all and it’s a huge ocean) or someone in the Republic had them ready to go and kept it secret. There would have to be a pretty decent sized paper trail to investigate, and they just don’t seem to care.
Yes I know Yoda says that. It’s like Dooku was doing some goofy reverse psychology thing. “If I tell them everything that’s going on, they won’t believe me and they’ll think the opposite!” And they just fall for it because they’re written as morons. They don’t do anything about the senate.
What Han does is completely different from Anakin and apparently you didn’t read what I said. Anakin complains about his personal life, tells her that he’s obsessed with her, leers at her in a way that makes her uncomfortable, says that she’s in his soul tormenting him, etc. It’s weird and no real woman would ever be into that unless she had such an extreme physical attraction that she didn’t care. Maybe that’s all it was. Han is being cocky and brash and aggressive, but he isn’t telling Leia he’s obsessed with her or having dreams about her or putting her on a pedestal. When he’s complaining and yelling he’s teasing her. He impresses her with genuine confidence, competence, and skill. He’s playing the “bad boy” persona, which is a cliche but it’s absolutely true and not just a Hollywood thing. Anakin is the weirdo “nice guy.”
Mocata said:
There’s been a lot of talk for many years now about how the prequels are looked at more fondly thanks to nostalgia. Or how they’re better if you’ve seen things the animated shows.I don’t agree with that in either way. I think TCW only adds a few things that I think the PT didn’t really need to tell it’s story (like the extended info about the clones, though I think the movies could’ve stood to explore their personalities more), mostly. Otherwise I think it’s genericizes Anakin’s character from a troubled tortured person to a more square jawed jockish hero type akin to Han Solo, which some acclaim over the movies portrayal. Even though I think it’s just a more generic take on Anakin’s attitude at the beginning of ROTS.
As far as nostalgia, I’ve seen adults apparently watch the PT for the first time in present day and like them. Have criticisms, yes, but still like them. I dismiss the nostalgia assumptions on that. I think that’s a recycled Plinkett claim that falls apart under much scrutiny.
Huge parts of the story still make zero sense (the Naboo trade dispute, the mystery of the clone army, the weird creepy romance). The one that’s still the most infuriating is that Obi-wan sees both the clones and the droid plant in the space of like a day, and doesn’t immediately see the conspiracy to create a war. Neither do the Jedi council, they’re all braindead.
I don’t really understand this much. Why would anyone assume that this is a conspiracy to start a war when as far as Obi or the Jedi would have any reason to think they came upon these things by happenstance? What would they see when they have no evidence to conclude it? Especially considering the droid army are just being made and the clones have been being developed for about 10 years. I think there’s room to criticize that the jedi don’t ponder this issue more, considering the connection between Dooku and Jango (though again, they have no evidence that would allow them to conclude specifically a huge amount of stuff there, but I think it’s a flaw that they don’t engage with it), but concluding it must be a conspiracy based on seeing armies I think is a stretch in a way.
I think the romance is weird in a way, but not creepy really. I think this is more a read on Anakin’s facial expressions than anything. I’m a little perplexed. I think Han’s attitude towards Leia is more creepy to me in TESB, and Han’s attitude more childish in how he very pettily reacts to Leia not expressing herself when they have no romantic relationship at that point. Unless the Anakin killing the tuskens is what’s just be referred to here, which, I think has a fair argument, but the bulk of their romance happens before that. And while I think their romance is fairly flawed, I don’t see zero sense.
I also don’t get the Naboo thing not making sense.
It’s nostalgia.
The evidence is that Jango Fett was hired to kill Padme and is also the template for the clone army, tries to kill Obi Wan, and goes directly from Kamino to the secret droid factory headquarters on Geonosis. This is brought up to Obi Wan and he very stupidly goes “no there appears to be no motive” and then Yoda says “do not assume anything,” and then they never talk about it again. The idea that a Jedi master goes out of their way to pay for a gigantic army of millions of troops and ships, in secret, for an unknown purpose, without telling anyone, and there’s no further investigation into it is just insane. If anyone in the Republic is involved at all in any capacity, which they would have to be to manage hundreds of star destroyers right away, that’s already a conspiracy. Count Dooku straight up tells them everything about Darth Sidious and they don’t even think it’s worthwhile to check. People put this up to the Jedi’s supposed “hubris” but it’s not hubris, it’s that they’re being written as morons. They don’t do the basic kind of stuff you would see in the first 20 minutes of an episode of a police procedural.
Han is very masculine, Anakin isn’t. He’s being a “scoundrel” but Leia is ultimately into it. He’s getting her to more consciously recognize her latent attraction to him. Anakin starts in the friend zone, and openly lusts, whines, complains, discusses sand, commits mass murder, and then somehow at the end of it Padme is deeply in love with him. The facial expressions are just one part of it.
Just for fun, I ran this prompt with GPT and Deepseek. You can see the way that they start with an acknowledgement, do the lists of three examples, and make statements with “if X… could Y…”
The GPT one brings up Sam Witwer at almost exactly the same point as the original post.
"write a forum post responding to this post, about Maul: Shadow Lord
Not sure about this. It’s just more animation but isn’t his story over in TCW? Do they need viewers enough to bring him back, again?"
GPT
"Absolutely understand where you’re coming from—Maul has definitely had a longer shelf life than most Star Wars characters! But honestly, I think Maul: Shadow Lord could be really interesting depending on how they handle it.
His arc in The Clone Wars and Rebels did a great job of showing how he evolved beyond just “the guy with the cool double-bladed lightsaber.” There were still so many pieces about his criminal empire (Crimson Dawn), his rivalry with other syndicates, and untold connections to other characters that were only hinted at.
If this series explores his rise as a Shadow Lord in the criminal underworld, rather than just retreading his Jedi/Sith stuff, we could get an awesome blend of crime drama and Star Wars lore. And let’s be real, Sam Witwer’s voice acting always adds a ton of depth.
I get the fatigue, but for me, as long as they’re telling a new kind of story—rather than “Maul escapes from something, again”—I’m willing to give it a shot. Anyone else curious to see if they tie this into the Solo/Crimson Dawn storylines?"
Deepseek
"I get where you’re coming from—Maul’s arc in The Clone Wars did feel pretty complete, especially after his final confrontation with Obi-Wan in Rebels. But I’m actually excited about Shadow Lord exploring more of his story.
Even though we’ve seen his rise, fall, and eventual end, there’s still a lot of untapped potential in his time as a crime lord. Shadow of the Sith and other media have hinted at how deep his influence ran, and seeing that in animation could add some real depth to his character. Plus, if this is set before Rebels, it could show how he maintained power while evading both the Empire and other rivals.
That said, I do hope it’s not just fan service—it needs to bring something new to his story. But if done right, this could be a great way to flesh out the underworld side of Star Wars while giving Maul the nuanced send-off he deserves.
What do you think—would a well-written crime saga change your mind, or are you done with Maul’s story?"
Large language model. Like Chat GPT.
Ah, what makes the commented on comment seem AI generated?
The sentence structure and cadence. The first sentence sounds exactly like the immediate reply from a chatbot, doing the “yes, but…” kind of thing. That second sentence giving three examples is a dead giveaway. The last sentence summation with “further” and “while” clauses also looks like a sign, because most real people don’t write that way unless they’re in school and writing an essay.
Going into the heart of darkness to understand the darkside is exactly what Ulic did. It seems to be something Veitch was interested in, if he used it more than once.
I’m going to infiltrate the Sith from within and slowly walk the path, I won’t fully go over. He gets a taste of power like a drug and it’s so seductive he loses himself. Then he slays his brother, a kinslaying there is no going back from that. Nomi took pity on him and cut him off from the force.
Yoda warned Luke. not to walk the quick and easy path. Forever will it dominate your destiny, consume you it will as it did Obi-Wan’s apprentice.
Dark Empire was first. The Ulic story is an in-universe point of comparison/warning for the Luke story in Dark Empire, then it was fleshed out in Tales of the Jedi.
The infiltration thing does make it a little different, but because of Palpatine, the scenario and outcome of it are still similar to Return of the Jedi.
Andor Season 2 Is A Star Wars Manifesto From 1981
www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUv7j5Gj3Us - a 27 minute ‘Andor: Season 2 Review’ from the Spaceman youtube channel.
The blurb: 'Andor Season 2 tells the story of a Rebellion: growing, overwhelmed, and entirely too prescient. It is a beautiful love letter to our own history, to the era we find ourselves in now, and to the people who choose to sacrifice their lives so that we may live on. From incredible color theory and amazing setpieces, to astounding monologues and gorgeous cinematography – Andor is the greatest Star Wars of the 21st Century.
Please remember, this is just one lone man’s opinion. I hope you enjoy.’
^ Well worth a watch of anyone’s time. Insightful, thoughtful and entertaining - as usual… from Spaceman.
This seems like a youtube channel tailor made to irritate me
https://x.com/starwars/status/1913133212349726755 Geometry Dash
Maul - Shadow Lord, a Star Wars Original series, arrives on DisneyPlus in 2026
Not sure about this. It’s just more animation but isn’t his story over in TCW? Do they need viewers enough to bring him back, again?
Your skepticism about Maul: Shadow Lord is understandable, given Maul’s extensive history in Star Wars media and the franchise’s reliance on familiar characters to draw viewers. However, the series’ setting in the early Imperial Era, its focus on Maul’s criminal empire, and the introduction of a new padawan (potentially Darth Talon) suggest it could offer fresh storytelling while bridging his TCW and Rebels arcs. Sam Witwer’s return and the incorporation of George Lucas’ ideas further hint at a project that respects Maul’s legacy while exploring new territory.
Why are you using LLMs to write forum posts?
WHO COULD HAVE FORESEEN THIS TURN OF EVENTS
The song is the one and only change in ROTJ that I would be okay with, though Yub Nub doesn’t bother me either. I feel like the somber Force theme when Luke cremates Vader is the “real” ending music, and Yub Nub is a sort of diegetic song that Luke and the others are hearing around them with the ewoks while you’re getting ready for the end credits. The special edition celebration music is more appropriate for what they were trying to do with it summing up six movies on a massive galactic scale instead of Luke’s personal story, but neither approach is inherently better.
I wonder why KOTOR didn’t try to appeal to prequel haters by having Jedi be allowed to marry and start training as adults.
Attack of the Clones barely existed for a year at the time when KOTOR came out, so KOTOR was just following what was established there. Prequel haters weren’t a demographic on the radar because they just barely existed too.
Also notably as the player character you do (re)train as an adult, and characters like Jolee Bindo are openly critical of the “love” part, using characters from Tales of the Jedi as an example. You have romance options including with other Jedi and no one cares.
KOTOR 2 was largely about ripping the setting established by AotC to shreds, so it had to keep what was there to do that.
That doesn’t change anything. If anything that makes it worse, because you would expect it to have more lasting effects if you think he’s getting tortured for longer.
It was easy to understand that Saw had Bor Gullet because he’s crazy. Not everyone knows or cares about Filoni shows. The problem is more that Bor Gullet doesn’t do anything. It temporarily messes with Bodhi and then nothing happens, he gets over it right away and there are no lasting changes to the plot.
The real message of Star Wars was always about how success comes from personal virtue, growth, restraint, respect for life, free will, a sense of greater purpose, and redemption. The Rebels vs. Empire stuff was the background and set dressing. It’s much easier to swallow if it’s about #Resistance though because that doesn’t demand anything from the viewer other than picking whichever side they’re told to pick on any given political issue.
Throwing stormtroopers around is a fun novelty, the graphics were nice, but that’s about all I can say with positivity. I hate the main character and he’s not interesting. QTEs are awful and take away from the feeling of player skill. Once you get enemies that can’t be instantly grabbed with the Force or killed in a few hits, the power fantasy goes away and it becomes a somewhat frustrating average action game. While the idea that the Emperor and Vader accidentally created the rebellion is some fun irony, I don’t think it should be canon and it detracts from the rebels getting set up on their own.
The real stars of the game were supposed to be the Euphoria AI system that would have gotten used in the cancelled Indiana Jones game they were doing, and wound up in GTA 4, and the particle-based physics engine where you can deform materials in realistic ways, wood splintering, metal denting, etc. Both made it into the game but in very light and limited ways. Stormtroopers will grab onto stuff but don’t behave in a particularly intelligent way, and there are some wooden beams, metal doors, panes of glass and so on but they’re infrequent and as soon as you destroy them they vanish. I don’t think either piece of tech became anything more than a gimmick, but I think they could be really cool with today’s hardware.
I don’t think they wanted to be Anti-Star Wars, they just wanted to make it without depending on existing Star Wars to make it good or interesting. They wanted it to be more Star Wars rather than recycling existing Star Wars.
I’m not sure where else to post this. Has anybody seen this excellent video of the Palpatine/Mace duel?
https://youtu.be/YC8VRvDNw1k?si=K24jw4HL_yBILYNS
I think the only rough spot is around 2:33 with their spinning moves, but I can’t believe how much better the duel flows by just being sped up a bit. The CGI backflip doesn’t really feel out of place anymore.
I’m okay with stuff like this.
The only thing that bothers me is when people call it “lore accurate” or something. The movies are the lore! You’re seeing the lore with your eyeballs!
