Visor

TV's Frink said:

...try fanedit.info.

Thanks; I managed to figure out JDownloader and found the DLC file on fanedit.info.  It's somewhat similar to downloading nzb files from Newsgroups, only more of a pain due to Megaupload's strict connection limits.

I just skimmed through the movie, but I've decided not to keep it.  While there were some editing choices that I liked (i.e. moving Luke & Yoda to the beginning, and removing most of Han's corny dialog), there were too many others that I found to be more distracting than helpful.  I really don't want to criticize Spence on all his hard work, so I'll just leave it at that. ;)

Regards,

Visor

Hi Spence,

Could you please include the URL for this edit on your very first post?  I've skimmed through a few posts, and it appears that it's available through MegaUpload, but I don't want to comb through 27 pages to find it. :p

Thanks,

Visor

I'm back!  Sorry; I've had issues with trying to log in here... even after I had my password reset. :(

Okay, so I've been following Adywan's conversation with Kurtyboy.  I've tried Ady's suggested method of first converting the audio to 25000 using BeSweet and then converting it to 23976 using eac3to.  Unfortunately, a new problem has developed: silent audio gaps appear to have been removed.  This is most noticable right at the beginning of the film, when the 20th Century Fox fanfare plays, but then it immediately goes into the Star Wars theme (foregoing the silent pause/gap used for "A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away...").  The silent pause/gap exists in the 25000 file created in BeSweet, but the gap is removed after the 23976 conversion using eac3to.  I tried running it twice (once using the eac3to GUI, and again just using the command prompt) but it produces the same issue.  I can't find any switches in the GUI or command prompt that instructs to remove silent gaps.  My log file is as follows:

eac3to v3.15
command line: eac3to "g:\star wars iv\main_track_25000.ac3" "g:\star wars iv\main_track_23976.ac3" -slowdown -640
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
AC3, 5.1 channels, 1:59:35, 640kbps, 48khz
Disabling DRC for Nero (E-)AC3 decoding...
Decoding with DirectShow (Nero Audio Decoder 2)...
DirectShow reports 5.1 channels, 24 bits, 48khz
Changing FPS from 25.000 to 23.976...
Encoding AC3 <640kbps> with libAften...
Creating file "g:\star wars iv\main_track_23976.ac3"...
eac3to processing took 23 minutes, 34 seconds.
Done.

Do you see any problems in the log?  Do I need to worry about using 'Nero Audio Decoder 2' to decode or using 'libAften' to encode?

Thanks,

Visor

adywan said:

sorry visor i'm fresh out of ideas. EP's 4 & 5 were created using the same profile in megui, same method of creating the audio and same way of creating the AVCHD. Trebius i have checked the video for EPIV and you are correct there is  a strange flickering effect. i have no idea what could have caused that. I wonder if that is having any affect on what visor is experiencing.

Hi Adywan,

I'm not seeing any flicker; just a jumpy picture at times and quiet sound.

Question for you: in TSMuxer when it comes to demuxing the video, there are the choices "Add picture timing info" and "Continually insert SPS/PPS".  These were both checked by default when I demuxed the video.  Would it make any difference if I unchecked one or both of them?

Thanks,

Visor

adywan said:

sorry to here about the issues you are having. I do have an idea how to fix this for you.

Download TSMuxer. Load the .m2ts file into it. untick the main video file and select demux to demux all the audio tracks. Once this is done retick the video file and remove all the other tracks (subs too i'm afraid). keep TSMuxer open.

Now you'll need Besweet to import the audio tracks into to convert them to 23.976fps. load each audio file into besweet individually and select ac3 as the output. Now for the 5.1 track you need to click on the "ac3 & ogg" tab. change the bitrate to 640 and click back on the besweet tab. now tick "change framerate" and input 24000 into the first box and 23976 into the second. now output your 5.1 audio track. now for the 2 other audio tracks do the same as above but change the bitrate to 192.

Now you have your new audio tracks import them all back into TSMuxer. Make sure that the 5.1 track is the first audio track in the list below the video file. Now click on the video stream to highlight it. Tick the "change fps" box and change the value to "24000/1001". This will just change the header in the video to play at 23.976fps and doesn't add or remove any frames. Now select "create bluray" as the output and create your folders. Once this is done open imgburn and import both the BDMV & Certificate folders and change the udf file system to 2.50 and burn. everything else should be done automatically by Imgburn.

Hope this helps

Hi Adywan,

I finally found some time to go through your steps.  One thing you forgot to mention was to check-off "Create 5.1 AC3" in BeSweet for the main track.  No worries; I caught this before I burned my next disc.   However, despite following your steps to the T, the disc I burned had a problem with very quiet sound, and the sound jumped at the same spot right after the Lucasfilm logo and the Star Wars logo had to jump to catch up.

I checked the AC3 files and they played back fine on the PC (no low-volume issue).  They were about 6 seconds longer than the originals, which would take into account the 0.024% slowdown.  No issues with muxing in TSMuxer, and I made sure IMGBurn used UDF 2.5 (the only other thing I did in IMGBurn was give the disc a label: 'Star Wars IV AVCHD').  Any ideas about what could've happened?  Was there a step somewhere that may have been missed, like the "Create 5.1 AC3" checkbox in BeSweet?

Thanks,

Visor

An update on my jerky playback issues... I took the advice from the other posters here and burned Ep. 4 again but with Nero this time: still the same issues.  I obtained Ep. 5 today and burned it with Nero, and voila, it worked perfectly.  That leads me to believe that the problem with Ep. 4 is that my Sony player can't properly handle pure 24 fps video.  Incidentally, my player recognized Ep. 5 as "True 24 fps" even though it was encoded at 23.976 fps.  I'm glad you've decided to encode the rest of the movies this way (and hopefully go back to fix Ep. 4 one day?)

Is there any possibility of editing out the dance number in Jedi for the eventual release?

BandedJustice, I think the issue here is that Adywan has to use what's available in high-def.  He can't go back to the old "Lapti Nek" version of the song because that version of the film has never been aired on HDTV.  He can't just edit out the full song and go straight to the slave girl being dropped into the Rancor's dungeon either, because that would just be plain wrong.  If you really want "Jedi Rocks" gone, you'll have to look at standard def options. 

Oh respectfully, please let the dance number in the AVCHD release of Jedi.

Oldschooljedi, I think you're missing a word in your above statement... I can't quite tell if you're saying you want the "Jedi Rocks" dance number left in Jedi or if you don't want it, LOL.

Hi Adywan,

Just wanted to report my findings when using the DVD9 of Ep. 4 with my Sony BDP-S350 Blu-ray player.  Not sure if anybody's reported anything similar (26 pages of postings is a LOT to read through, LOL). 

Anyway, I obtained the iso/mds files from BitTorrent, and burned the image onto a Verbatim DVD+R DL using the latest version of ImgBurn (2.4.2.0).  I placed the disc into my S350 and it correctly identified it as a DVD+R AVCHD disc.  The movie started, although it took a few seconds for the main DD 5.1 track to kick in.  A few seconds later, (the 20th Century Fox fanfare hadn't even finished playing), the sound suddenly cut out.  The video kept going, and after another couple of seconds the sound came back in, a little ahead of the Star Wars "stacked" title.  The video suddenly jumped ahead to catch up, but was jerky.  I ejected the disc and reinserted, but the same thing happened again.  Then I switched the audio to the 3rd track (ie. the fan commentary) and restarted the film.  This time, the sound didn't cut out, and the video didn't need to catch up or become jerky.  Weird... I wonder if the Sony unit has an issue with decoding 5.1 sound on an AVCHD disc.  Anyway, the video played mostly okay (the S350 recognized that it was true 24fps playback) but every so often (maybe once every 30 seconds?) the video would "jump" a frame.  This was noticable during the opening scroll, and then again when the Star Destroyer flew by.  Not sure if this is a problem with the Sony trying to interpret the 24fps playback, or just the player itself trying to "keep up" with this special AVCHD disc.  I suppose I can try downloading Ep. 5 (which you didn't encode in true 24 fps) and see if anything improves.

Regards,
Visor

We really need to get all of Wookiegroomer's stuff uploaded to alt.binaries.starwars again.  I just got a trial account to Giganews, and the only thing that's available is the last half of the Episode 3 files (back from July of last year).  Is there anyone out there willing to repost? 

I'm more interested in Episodes 1-3, as I got 4-6 a few months back (the DVD9 versions), and trying to find Eps 1-3 via torrents is extremely difficult (they're out there, but the torrents are very old and thus there are hardly any seeders). 

If I sent WookieG a PM, do you think he'd repost for us?  Or is he "off the grid" for this kind of stuff these days?

Thanks,

Visor