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#1557050
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Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [WIP– Donations Still Needed!!]
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By the way, apolocheese for not having updated the donor list for a while. Toy Story’s admittedly been off my mind since the beginning of this month– I’m taking a well-needed mental break!

Right now I’m focused on work and college + other life events, but I’m still committed to the project and will try to see things get sorted by the end of this year as I wait for more info. I’ll see if I can get email addresses sometime soon, I just have much else that I need to put my energy towards at the moment. Feel free to reach out via DM if you have any questions!

Peace ✌🏻,
Tristan

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#1557042
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AwesomeJ said:

TristAndShout64 said:

Answered penguin’s questions by DM. At this point we’re going to be a bit over $1500 and I believe I can safely say that the project is about as FULLY FUNDED as it will get, so I will be fully closing donations off. My apologies to anyone who didn’t get a chance to donate– believe me when I say that I’d honestly share this with everyone if I could.

On a more positive note, I owe a huge thank-you to everyone who has donated over the past several months. I need to update the list on the forum, but I believe that once the remaining parties throw their bits in we’ll have over 75 different donors who have contributed. Pardon my French, but that’s fucking crazy!! I’m so glad I ran into this community and incredibly grateful to have the support of everyone who wants to see this as much as I do. I’ll try to message whoever I still need to about email addresses, and I also plan on refunding all of you a little depending on how much money is left over. Again, thank you guys so much– you honestly are my favorite deputies.

I’m still waiting for things to get moving over in Australia, so for now all we can really do is wait. I’ll figure out what I can and post another update as soon as possible. Until then, reach for the sky!

~Tristan

Any new update regarding the project?

Nothing much for now. I’m not sure what Vale’s schedule is like (I imagine he has a lot going on) but I’ll see if I can have him ship it over to the cleaner by the end of this year. I promise I’ll give another update as soon as possible!

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#1553382
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Answered penguin’s questions by DM. At this point we’re going to be a bit over $1500 and I believe I can safely say that the project is about as FULLY FUNDED as it will get, so I will be fully closing donations off. My apologies to anyone who didn’t get a chance to donate– believe me when I say that I’d honestly share this with everyone if I could.

On a more positive note, I owe a huge thank-you to everyone who has donated over the past several months. I need to update the list on the forum, but I believe that once the remaining parties throw their bits in we’ll have over 75 different donors who have contributed. Pardon my French, but that’s fucking crazy!! I’m so glad I ran into this community and incredibly grateful to have the support of everyone who wants to see this as much as I do. I’ll try to message whoever I still need to about email addresses, and I also plan on refunding all of you a little depending on how much money is left over. Again, thank you guys so much– you honestly are my favorite deputies.

I’m still waiting for things to get moving over in Australia, so for now all we can really do is wait. I’ll figure out what I can and post another update as soon as possible. Until then, reach for the sky!

~Tristan

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#1552170
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TheSkeletonMan939 said:

Hey Trist – could you give an update some time about what the next steps will be? I am a little unclear on what the $1300 has covered – the cost of the print? Scanning? You mentioned hard drives but have you determined a specific amount of cash you will need for those?
Thank you for organizing this; the movie was a childhood favorite of mine.

No problem, I’m glad you’re interested in the project! I’m happy to clear things up a bit for you and other people who may be confused about the monetary aspect of things. Here is just about everything that needs to be covered financially speaking:
-Cleaning by Flix35
-Scanning by Quazza
-Shipping costs
-Storage costs

The scanning cost should be about $430 and cleaning will be just under $300, hence our initial goal of $700. Then there’s the shipping, which is its own ordeal– we’ll be sending the print from Australia to Texas for cleaning, then to Pennsylvania for scanning, and finally to Minnesota as that’s where I live. Unfortunately, we don’t have a concrete shipping cost yet because Valeyard (aka “RU.08” who has the print currently) hasn’t been able to weigh the print to calculate just how much that would be, but I figure $600 would be enough to cover all the passing around. Any remaining money would go towards a hard drive– probably an SSD which should cost around $100-200, hence the $1500 cap. Also, I plan on returning donations if we end up with extra funds (though this won’t affect eligibility to receive the final scan).

I hope that makes things a bit clearer. We’ve covered just about everything and any further donations will essentially factor into the cost of the hard drive. Feel free to ask any other questions you guys have (I’ll be PM’ing some of you at some point here).

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#1552168
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Hooray, OT is back up! I’ll be reaching out to donors sometime soon to get email addresses in case this happens again, but feel free to PM it to me if you’d like.

Anyways, I suppose it’s a perfect time for an update, as there’s a lot to discuss. Firstly, I want to share a bit about distribution of the final print, which will be done a bit differently now due to the recent Reddit leaks which caused a bit of a stir.

I won’t go too much into detail regarding my opinions on what happened, but I will say that I find openly sharing these scans on Reddit and other websites a bit irresponsible and a good way to get some person or another in trouble. To be clear, I don’t necessarily think we should gatekeep or disallow people from seeing scans; I think it should be up to whoever did the scan who they distribute the print to (not that there are any implied rights, but I see it as a simple courtesy thing), but at the very least I believe that it should be kept to private messages as opposed to just having a website with download links to full, copyrighted movies.

Knowing all this, I will be slightly tightening things as far as who will receive copies of the print. I’m in favor of letting more people see the final scan, but I’m just too fearful of getting in trouble after it gets posted online to be willing to send it to whoever messages me and asks. Perhaps that’s irrational to some capacity, but it’s just something I’m not comfortable with at this point.

The long-and-short of it this: all people who have donated WILL get a copy, as expected. Other people interested can receive a copy AT MY DISCRETION, but will be required to provide image proof that they own a copy of the film. I’ll be keeping things fairly limited, so don’t necessarily expect a response if you PM me asking for a copy.

If you do receive a copy of the scan, know that I’m trusting you not to share a copy with anyone else or post it online, and my willingness to do another project like this may be impacted if anyone does so. Also, I’d like to share that I plan on posting clips of the final scan on YouTube/Archive.org, as I do want to give everyone the opportunity to see it in some capacity.

My apologies if this leaves some people feeling disappointed, but it’s what I ultimately feel is the best course of action. I might find some way to get the scan out to more people in the future, but for now I’d like to keep things as lowkey as possible.

With that out of the way, Let’s discuss the scan itself! As far as funds go, we’re currently sitting at a little over $1400. I imagine this should be about as much as we need, so I’ve removed the donation link from the top post, but I may or may not intermittently accept a couple more (with proof of ownership of the film). I’ll be hard-capping us at around $1500, as I don’t think more than that will be necessary. Valeyard still has the print in Australia, and we’re hoping to get things moving sometime fairly soon, so stay tuned for further updates. I’ll send another OT-longer whenever I have more to share. Peace and love y’all! ✌🏻

~Tristan

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#1550055
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KillThad said:

TristAndShout64 said:

KillThad said:

Donated!

Awesome, thanks! This has officially pushed us past the $1000 mark!

Unfortunately, as shown below, we now have some funds being withheld due to the amount of money the account has received this month. As a reminder to interested donors, PLEASE make sure you select “Friends and Family” if using Donation Link 1 (NOT “Goods and Services”).

Bruh

Still, don’t let this overshadow the overall victory– a thousand dollars in under 4 months is awesome! It seems that despite the lower quantity of donations this past month, many of them have been on the bigger side, which has really helped to keep progress high over the past month. Just $300 to go, we’ve got this!!

“As a reminder to interested donors, PLEASE make sure you select “Friends and Family” if using Donation Link 1 (NOT ‘Goods and Services’)”
Ah hell. My bad, man.

Ah, no worries. It’s not a big deal in the long run, and I should’ve made it clearer to do so anyways, which I’ve now gone ahead and done on the front post.

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#1550054
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Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [WIP– Donations Still Needed!!]
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Hey, sorry for the radio silence and props to all the recent donors who I haven’t thanked. I’m happy to say that we’ve now passed $1300 and are continuing to climb! I’ll be giving a more detailed update as soon as possible, but in the meantime feel free to continue donating as we could still use money for the cost of a hard drive.

Additionally, when I have the chance I would like to address some recent events within the community that have shaken things up a bit, and discuss how they will impact this project. For now, I would like to share that while the project still won’t be strictly donors only, there will now be some restrictions on who will be receiving the prints once the project is finished (at least for the time being).

Either way, I’m grateful for the continued support and I shall give more details soon enough. To infinity and beyond!

~Tristan

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#1548337
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KillThad said:

Donated!

Awesome, thanks! This has officially pushed us past the $1000 mark!

Unfortunately, as shown below, we now have some funds being withheld due to the amount of money the account has received this month. As a reminder to interested donors, PLEASE make sure you select “Friends and Family” if using Donation Link 1 (NOT “Goods and Services”).

Bruh

Still, don’t let this overshadow the overall victory– a thousand dollars in under 4 months is awesome! It seems that despite the lower quantity of donations this past month, many of them have been on the bigger side, which has really helped to keep progress high over the past month. Just $300 to go, we’ve got this!!

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#1547674
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Toy Story (1995)– 4K 35mm Scan [WIP– Donations Still Needed!!]
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Ok, update time! Sorry for the radio silence- life’s been pretty busy lately and I just haven’t had the time to sit down and write something out for you guys.

YOU! ARE! ALL! AMAZIIIIING!

So first of all, thank you all so much for the support/donations thus far. As of me writing this, we have gotten a staggering $900 between 46 donors (47 counting myself 😉). That’s an average of $300 per month, which is just amazing! This includes $200 which we’ve gained in the few weeks since reaching our first goal, so we’ve already gotten a bit of a head start on our next goal.

Another neat thing that happened since hitting our goal was an Instagram shoutout from “@raretoystory” who has been interested in something like this for a while as far as I can tell. He made a post which got a suprising bit of traction, and we even got a couple of really big donations as a result! Of course, we always want to be weary about something like this on the off-chance that studio heads somehow catch on and don’t like what we’re doing… it had me a little worried for a bit, but we’ll just have to try our best to keep things lowkey-ish and we should be OK. I’m still grateful for the shoutout and will ensure RTS a copy when we’re finished!

As for what’s next… as I’ve said, we now need to focus on raising money to cover the considerable shipping costs. We’ll also need money to buy a hard drive for the scan to go onto, but I just might cover the cost of that myself depending on where I am financially when the time comes around. For now, let’s make the shipping aspect our priority!

We unfortunately still don’t have a concrete idea of how much shipping will total to, as Valeyard is recovering from a knee injury and can’t do any heavy lifting (therefore can’t weigh the print for us). However, my rough guess is that it’ll be between $200-300 from Australia to the cleaner, then $100 each to send it to the scanner and then to me. That may be overestimating on my part, but we’ll find out in due time.

With all this in mind, I think a good monetary goal for us to now aim for is $1300. That’s the $700 we’ve already raised for scanning/cleaning, plus an extra $600 for shipping from Australia and across the US, which I figure ought to be enough to cover whatever the costs will be in the end. Of course, we’re essentially a third of the way there already thanks to the latest wave of donations, which is great!

I encourage anyone interested in the print to donate if they can. If you can’t, then share the project with friends who you think would be interested. Heck, if you’ve already donated, then consider doing so a second time! I don’t mean to come off as pushy (still not limiting to donors only, though to be safe I’ll probably require proof of ownership of a legal copy of the film), but we’ve started to hit a lull in donations after a bit of a spike towards the first half of the month, and we’ll need all the support we can get to reach our next goal, and any help doing so is greatly appreciated.

Finally, a couple of things I had planned in store that I wanted to share. I mentioned in my first forum thread that I was potentially interested in streaming some Toy Story games to raise donations. This is still something I’d like to do, if just for fun at this point, and I’m going to try to fit it in sometime before the end of the summer. Something else I’m planning on doing is making a comparison video of sorts showing the 35mm trailer scan side-by-side with DVD footage of the movie, which I think would do wonders in really showing just how different this movie looks on film. Expect a link whenever I get around to it!

Once again, thank you guys so much for all the support. I could never have imagined that we’d make this much progress in just three short months, and I’m so excited to see what happens next. To infinity and beyond!!!

~Tristan

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#1546567
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Dyl said:

Been a lurker of the OT forums for a few years, but finally decided to act after seeing such an extensive restoration project of my favorite film of all time of which I’ve held a lifelong passion for (and an ungodly amount of toys, merchandise, and artbooks, one of which is signed by John Lasseter). I donated $2.18 (2 1nfinity and ∞) to help preserve Toy Story in its original format for infinity and beyond!

Ha- I love it!! Thanks a lot, your support is appreciated and I’m glad to see you’re equally passionate about such a great movie.

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#1545844
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AwesomeJ said:

TristAndShout64 said:

ScruffyNerfHerder said:

I’m really looking forward to your results. I just donated $15. 😃

Thank you so much! Your donation got us to exactly $700!!

I’m currently on vacation, but I’ll make another post when I get back on Wednesday. 😁

So, whats the next course of action?

Raise more money! Now that we’ve reached the cost of services (cleaning and scanning) we just need enough money to ship the print around to the various places it needs to go.

I’ll make a proper follow-up post when I have the chance, including a rough estimation of how much more money we’ll need (nothing concrete until we can get canisters and weigh the print). For now, I encourage people to continue donating if they’re interested! 😃

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Dozer Davis said:

I am looking forward to donating sometime next week when I get paid. I love this movie to death and seeing it on a vintage format is definitely something for me and I assume everyone else.

Wonderful, that would be greatly appreciated. You’re definitely not the only one who loves this movie and wants to see this project come to fruition. We’re approaching our first monetary goal so any help is appreciated at this point! 😃

HAttackontheBun said:

I was just wondering since this was an Australian print, will the final scan include the Buena Vista International logo or will this be cut out?

I guess it depends if it’s on the print or not. If it is, then it’ll likely be included in the final scan (unless people think we should do otherwise).

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NeonBible said:

I’ve donated $15.

Thanks TristAndShout64 for taking on this project.

Hal 9000 said:

Just donated $15. I saw this movie many times in the theater and these images just feel right for this movie.

Wow, two $15 donations in a day? Thanks you guys! These have pushed us to $630 in total, so we’re staggeringly close to reaching our starter goal. I’ll try and get the remaining costs worked out soon or at least come up with some rough estimate for us to go off of.

Charles Threepio said:

I’ve just donated a dollar towards this scan. It’s not much, but as you said, every little bit counts.

Haha, I appreciate it Charles. We were actually at like $599.44 when you sent your dollar, so you officially put us over the $600 mark. That’s certainly worth something, so thanks a ton!

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SpookyLemon13 said:

I’ve donated $10 - I always liked the way it looked on VHS and thought the DVD looked very flat in comparison

Well thank you very much! I added $5 to match another donation and that puts us safely at $570.

I totally agree with you on the DVD transfer- I grew up with that version of Toy Story, and there’s arguably an objective quality to it- what with it being a direct digital transfer of course- but I’ve fallen totally in love with the film version over the past several months. The color palette and film grain add so much depth and give it such a distinct look. The VHS is definitely my preferred way to watch currently, though I need to get another Laserdisc player so I watch it that way.

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naykid said:

I’m rooting for you guys working on this, what’s the status so far?

Thanks for asking! We’re still working on raising money, we won’t be able to start scanning until we have enough for both the scanning costs and shipping.

That said, we’re approaching $500 out of $700 (which only covers the cost to have it cleaned and scanned, but still a solid starting goal), so we’re getting there. The print is currently in Australia still, and once we figure out the cost for shipping it around everywhere we’ll update our fundraising goal.

If you want to donate, there are two PayPal links in the top post. Otherwise, stay posted! (You can also join RU.08’s Discord server if you want more direct updates)

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#1540707
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K, I’ve donated a few dollars of my own to bring the total to $320. I’ve also added the total donation amount for each donor and updated the FAQ with some extra information.

To everyone donating, please use Link 1 if you can. The donation fee for Link 2 isn’t huge, but it’ll add up over time, whereas if you do a direct payment under Friends and Family there is no fee. Not a big deal either way though, I’ll continue rounding out the total with my own donations.

By the way, I have some fun plans for this coming summer so stay tuned! 😉

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AwesomeJ said:

zerocool said:

im 100% sure it will too. just gotta find someone who can do a CC 😉

He mentioned that the thing has a pinkish tint to it, I’m sure there’s probably some way to fix that using Adobe Premiere or something possibly, but I don’t use Premiere so I’m not entirely sure.

Yeah, it’s noticeable but pretty slight and I imagine we can color correct it if we have to. That’s assuming it really is pink, one person who DM’ed me suggested it might just be the person’s camera lighting, though I’m not too sure how likely that is.

Anyways, here are the pics from the eBay listing where you can see what I’m talking about (you can also see these in the link I included in the FAQ). Make of them what you will!

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RU.08 said:

TonyWDA said:

Yeah, it’s quite the hot topic in audio engineering circles. In this context, having as many audio options as possible is always best when all is said and done. It’s less convenient to get the Dolby 5.1 on the print preserved, but a lot easier to get the analog stereo track digitized using AEO Light— especially if the raw scan resolution is well past 2K. That would only be necessary if the scanner couldn’t (or simply didn’t) capture the analog audio along with the image scan or the sound on the capture was too hissy; unfortunately, LaserGraphics ScanStation units are kind of notorious for that. But all things in due time; I’m sure TristAndShout64 will cross that bridge when he gets to it.

Please don’t confuse Trist. ScanStations have two ways to transfer audio, the hissy hardware reader or software extraction that works better than AEO Light. But if you want the best optical audio transfer I can also get that at an additional expense. There’s no guarantee the SRD will play - it might, but it might not.

No worries, no real confusion on my part. I like seeing people discuss this stuff! Either way I look forward to seeing if we can scan the SRD and hear what it sounds like.

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TonyWDA said:

A friendly reminder that with any mix— Dolby Digital or analog— on the actual print itself, you’re likely getting the “far field” version of the soundtrack, with mixing choices and dynamic range better suited for listening in large auditoriums. In contrast, that same mix is typically adjusted for “near field” listening in significantly smaller environments for the film’s home video release. The former mix is prepared knowing it will play from speakers a considerable distance from the listener(s); it also considers the architectural impact of the soundtrack in that room to give the audience a full, reflected acoustic effect. The latter is more direct and sometimes may even sound more detailed— or, at least, unmarred by the aural impact of a large auditorium because you’re sitting much closer to speakers with smaller drivers in a smaller room.

Neither is necessarily better or worse than the other (not always, anyway…). Still, it’s always best to consider the differences between what’s on a print and what typically ends up on the home video release. An excellent example of everything mentioned here can be heard in Aladdin’s theatrical and home video versions. In the scene where the Cave of Wonders begins to fall apart, the differences in the intensity of the sound effects are night and day. Pay particular attention to the moment when the lamp shrine bursts into flames. Not even the LaserDisc audio, an otherwise fine track all around, sounds that aggressive. You can hear the DVD/35mm audio comparison here:

All this is to say yes, you will want to include the analog track— for posterity if nothing else. =)

Wow, interesting. That makes a lot of sense though. I’m sure that means parts like the rocket scene in TS will be quite a bit louder/more impactful.