Oh then you’re right, it was definitely intentional! I had the tough choice between having a fleet suddenly appear out of nowhere at the end (which I found massively frustrating in the trilogy itself) or tease it in earlier dialogue with the payoff coming much later. At least now every ship doesn’t have planet killing lasers!
This is a pretty great edit! I really liked it for the most part but there are a few odd moments such as the Resistance Evacuation and the early mention of the Sith fleet. Ben’s death was also kinda anti-climatic but I appreciate that now Leia dies once the fighting is over and her son is dead like Luke says to Rey. Overall solid 8/10!
Thank you so much for the kind words! There definitely were some compromises / challenges in making a cohesive narrative. As you noticed, the resistance evacuation has some odd moments for the sake of pacing and tension. Because Canto Bight has been removed, I had to restructure that entire ‘chase’ sequence, condensing it in the beginning and stretching it out toward the end.
Tell me about the early Sith Fleet mention. Do you remember about how far along? Wondering if it was a random moment of dialogue I never thought to trim. A lot of Ep 9 ended up scattered across the edit so there’s inevitable continuity issues!
hi this was one of my fave shows of the past few years so would love to see how you manage to condense it down to just a couple of hours. Looking at your notes, the cuts made are really interesting and bold, so please feel free to send me the links if you dont mind.
Just shot you message! Hope you enjoy - would love to hear your thoughts when you finish 😃
can I also have a link as this edit looks great.
Absolutely - check your DMs. Love that people are still finding this edit! Hope to hear your thoughts here on the forum when you finish.
I finally sat and watched your Bass Reeves Cut, and I loved it!
I was not one of those who loved the mini-series, but I surely liked it a lot. Watchmen covered many ambitious themes and ideas and it span through many rich plotlines. With your cut you managed to capture the most intersting plotline of the show and you delivered a storng and condensed story, as promised.
As far as a fanedit goes, it was flawless. There was not a single moment that I felt like I was watching a fanedit.
If I had to give some minor notes, I would suggest a different title card (maybe something more stylized) and perhaps getting rid of the very final shots of Angela which looked like a set-up for a potential sequel. But again, this is just nitpicking.
Great job, you really nailed it!
Thank you so much!! Having it not feel like a fan edit is strangely the best compliment any fan editor can probably receive 😉
I did love the mini series but felt that it did a real disservice to Will’s story and its themes in the last episode. This was my little attempt to provide an alternative. So glad it resonated!
While I probably won’t remove the final shot, I agree with you that the title card isn’t as good as it could be. Motion graphics have never been my forte. But maybe this will be my excuse to sit down and learn a bit!
Appreciate you taking the time to watch!
I would also love to check this out please. Thank you in advance👍
Happy to oblige! Just sent a PM - would love to hear your thoughts here in the public forum when you finish.
I just found about this as well! I would love to check out your edit, sounds really intersting.
Nice! Just sent you a PM.
When I watched the Bass Reeves cut it looks like you added in more climatic action packed hood justice by making sure that things are going according to its plan and you also had the fact when she is leaving the blockade it’s more like she is taking the pills. Overall this looks great.
I’m so glad people are finding this edit! It kind of whimpered when I dropped it.
Yes, definitely had to jump some narrative hoops to make it all one contained two hour story. Tightening everything up and focusing on just the handful of characters gives the Hooded Justice story a lot more action packed feel.
Getting Angela out of the jail / hospital was a really tough one because there’s no good footage of it without introducing Lady Trieu. So I stole some from the White Night flashback that implies she’s coming down from the pills.
Glad to hear you’re digging the edit!
And BrotherOfSasquatch, I PMed you a link - would love to hear what you think as well.
Would love to hear feedback! Mild spoilers below for those who have not seen the show.
I’m calling this Watchmen (2019) - The Bass Reeves Cut. The show was (in my opinion, and I know plenty of opinions differ) absolutely brilliant. It stayed reverent to the events of the graphic novel while charting its own path. I was was slightly disappointed by the final episode so this edit is my attempt to take one of the central stories and turn it into a film sized experience.
My cut primarily concentrates on Angela Abar and Will Reeves. There’s no Adrian Veidt, no Dr. Manhattan and just a bit of Laurie Blake. It centers on the mystery of what happened to Judd Crawford and who the mysterious Will Reeves is.
This fan edit is meant for those who loved the show and want to experience a condensed telling of Hooded Justice’s origin or for those who are unwilling to commit 9 hours to the show but are intrigued enough to spend 2. With that said, I highly recommend the show in its entirely. The music especially is incredible!
As this pulls 9 hours of TV down to just over 2 hours, here’s a brief outline of what was used or removed:
Most of episode 1 remains. I cut the scene of Captain Crawford talking to the wife of the hospitalized cop. I cut the beating interrogation and action sequence at the ranch. Adrian Viedt is cut from this and all other episodes.
I kept much of episode 2. I removed the newspaper stand chatter. I removed the winged paparazzi. I removed the White Knight attack. I removed / partially repurposed the hospital scene. I removed the Nixonville attack. I removed most of the family scenes and the Crawford wake (but kept Angela sleuthing). Removed Will being pulled into the sky.
In episode 3 I only used Laurie and Angela meeting at the funeral.
From episode 4 I used Angela at the Ances-Tree as well as Angela asking Looking Glass about the pills and hood.
Episode 5 only uses Angela taking the pills.
Nearly the entirety of episode 6 remains. To me, this is the core of the story I was looking to tell. I cut a few small continuity pieces from the beginning and the very end with Lady Trieu.
Episode 7 only uses Angela driving through Red Scare’s blockade (it’s implied they’re stopping her from leaving a hospital).
Episode 8, despite being a great episode, doesn’t see any use in my edit.
Episode 9 uses the theater scene between Angela and Will.
A few scenes play slightly out of order for pacing and / or continuity in my version of the story. Some new scene transitions played out better than I could have expected.
Total run-time is 2 hours 15 minutes with credits.
To those interested in a link, give the edit a google search and there’s a link with a google.drive video.
So glad people are still searching for this! Feel free to PM if you have any issues finding the edit.
Got to watch this recently and really enjoyed it. It could become my go-to for the Prequels except for one scene which really ruins the continuity for me.
… I got rid of Tatooine completely.
Not quite! 😉
When Obiwan contacts Anakin to rebroadcast his message to the Jedi Council, the sequence of shots introduces the following issues while maintaining that Anakin is on Naboo with Padme:
- Anakin and Padme are inside her starship. Why would they be in her ship if they’re still on Naboo?
- The stark landscape through the windows is clearly not Naboo.
- When they go rescue Obiwan, the ship flies out of a cliffside hangar, even though we just saw a vast empty landscape through the windows mere seconds earlier.
I understand why the problematic Tatooine shot was included, but if there’s ever another cut of this film made, I’d strongly suggest removing that shot from this scene, even if you have to just imply that Anakin and Padme see the transmission.
I think it could work to just omit shots of the couple and focus on Obiwan’s message, then cut to the shot of the Nubian Cruiser leaving the Naboo hangar. This would create some implications for the viewer to follow; firstly, that Anakin saw the transmission and secondly, that he rushed to his Master’s rescue. I don’t think these are too obscure or hard to follow for most viewers.
That scene aside, this was a great cut of the Prequels. Thanks for making it!
Haha I mean, I can’t disagree with you on a purely literal level. But in the context of my cut, you’re never explicitly TAKEN to Tatooine. I’ve thought about rotoscoping a Naboo landscape outside the windows of the ship. While it doesn’t explain why they’re on the ship, such is the plight of a fan editor. Unfortunately, I’ve lost the edit files in the intervening years and Avid is not friendly to such issues.
Very much appreciate you watching the cut and replying! You gave me a laugh tonight because it’s one of the small issues I still think about.
That’s a tough one re: watching this first. I would definitely encourage you to see it as originally edited first. But I’ll send you the link and you can make your own choices! There might be a few moments where things are slightly confusing and you’ll have to infer the main character’s motivations.
Hey Nibcrom! No argument - this is one of those rare fan edits where I explicitly think it makes the movie slightly worse. But it definitely creates a much darker, more adrift version of K which I found to be interesting.
I will gladly watch all two hours and 45 minutes and relish every bit of it. But I know there are people out there (and plenty who decided to skip it at the theaters) because they were turned off by the length. If you end up giving it a watch, would love to hear your thoughts!
Hey fellow fan edit appreciators! I had such an enthusiastic response to my last couple Star Wars edits and this time I’m trying something different.
Blade Runner 2049 is an absolutely gorgeous movie and a worthy follow up to the original. But it’s also significantly longer. As a sort of thought experiment, I wanted to make a tighter version. The solution I came up with is to completely remove Joi (which it really does in the figurative and literal sense).
That’s kind of it. It trims over 20 minutes from the film and makes for a more nihilistic sort of movie. The audience has to infer a lot more of K’s motivations and his existence becomes solely about his work and unraveling the mystery. I did rearrange Mackenzie Davis’s replicant prostitute subplot to immediately follow meeting K. Without Joi instigating, it felt more organic that way.
The only cameo appearance of Ms. de Armas is a single generic Joi advertisement (though not the infamous billboard appearance at the end).
Would love to hear what people think - does it ruin the movie by being too dark and confusing or is the tighter runtime beneficial?
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Sent you a PM Thrashbarg. Hope everyone is enjoying the updated cut!
Since I’ve had some renewed interest in this, I thought I would share a video about the creative process. What I chose to leave in, cut out. Glad people are enjoying my cut! https://youtu.be/xE1cIJ8nGPs
For anyone following the thread, I just updated the edit with improved transitions and a new extended intro with Solo-esque non-crawl. Used comments from here, Reddit and Youtube to make these improvements. Appreciate all the positive feedback I’ve received!
Love that we both wanted Kylo’s mask to stay on until his father confronts him! And one of the only shots that bothers me in my edit here is Jannah in the background on the Death Star… !
Watched the video. Unfortunately I’m not really skilled in After Effects or roto work. If no one else has done it, I can make a crawl for you. I did one for my Prequel 3 to 1 edit. PM me if that’s of use to you!
Awesome! Would love to be part of it!
I got you covered man! Since my Sequel 3-in-1 got some requests, I’ve pre-emptively made Plex / media server artwork for this one. If anyone needs that, I’ll have it available!
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Nice work dude! There’s some really interesting choices and arrangements here. Really like what you did with TFA scenes. Actually making me think about rearranging my own edit again.
How long did this take?
I started the week after the RoS bluray dropped (I had looked at the other movies prior but didn’t dig in until I had them all). I would say 2 or 3 weeks of actual editing over the course of 3 months. I had to take breaks, both to step back and re-think certain choices but also because I was going so gung-ho early on that I started giving myself mild carpal tunnel!
So glad you liked it! It was a lot of fun and I really can’t wait to see what other people do with the trilogy. There’s definitely potential for a coherent story there, the same as the prequels. Pretty sure I’ve seen some of your videos on Reddit - love how collaborative you are. Keep up the amazing work!
I want to thank orchidal for encouraging me to share info about my 3 to 1 Prequel Edit, sourced from the 1080p blu-rays. This was my first fan edit, done a couple years ago and rendered in high quality. I’ve had good feedback toward it with friends and excited now to share it here.
The Episode I Duel of The Fates lightsaber battle is used as the assassination attempt on Senator Amidala that leads into Episode II. From there, it’s a very condensed Ep II with no Tatooine, no missing planets and significantly shortened action set pieces. Episode III is shortened to the essentials but only slightly altered (no death by broken heart, no flying R2, etc)
Total Run Time of 2 hours 29 minutes
Ep 1 @ 0:05:30 or 3.7%
Ep 2 @ 0:46:30 or 31%
Ep 3 @ 1:29:00 or 60%
Custom crawl + credits @ 0:08:00 or 5.3%
I meant for this version to be seen with Machete Order viewing. One movie that can be watched between Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi. If you want more info about this viewing order go here - https://www.nomachetejuggling.com/2011/11/11/the-star-wars-saga-suggested-viewing-order/
So my first goal was there couldn’t be Ep VI spoilers (success - though I left enough for people to infer some future revelations)
A big thing for me was that this needed to be a replacement for watching the movies with a new viewer. So the plot had to make sense without having seen the full movies. I was mostly successful. I didn’t want to drastically change the story, just condense it. You have to accept a few leaps of logic and Obi Wan changing his hair style in the first 10 minutes of the movie (the end of Ep 1 is the intro - sorry, no pod racing or yippees).
The next goal I set was it had to have a shorter runtime than the longest SW movie. Last Jedi made my life much easier as it clocked in at 2 hours 32 minutes with credits. I got mine to 2:29 - success! Pacing isn’t perfect but I pared down a lot of the actions scenes to keep it from just being set piece after set piece. Particularly in Episode II.
Another goal was to remove Jar Jar. Though that’s not quite possible (he’s in some crucial scenes), I was already going to take out all his dialogue (removing 90% of Episode I helped) and ended up being easier than I thought. Success! Similarly, I wanted to see if I could make the Trade Ministers not speak. Along with Jar Jar, they’re the other most annoying and mildly racist portrayal in the series. I got them down to only four lines.
Here was the big goal - make Annakin less annoying. What I found was, the more of his dialogue you cut out, the more tolerable he gets. There are some scenes I just cut in half. Like, he’s kind of okay for the first half of the scene and then devolves into child-like whining for the second half. Get rid of that and he’s okay! Also, lost any mention of his intolerance to sand. In fact, I got rid of Tatooine completely.
Final note - so many transitions! There were so many scenes that went through 5 wide shots to go from one location to another. I hadn’t seen the movies in a while so I had completely forgot. That really shaved down a surprising amount of minutes to just cut those transitions down to two shots each.
The biggest issue is some of the music transitions.
Hope everyone enjoys - would love to hear your thoughts!
I’ve gotten a few requests on Reddit, Youtube and DMs for artwork to use with Plex or other media servers. I’m no graphic designer but I put together a really minimalist poster. I’ve added it as a link in the Youtube video description I posted above. Thanks for the encouragement!
This is the most ambitious of any sequel trilogy edit I’ve seen. And I love it.
Right away General Hux is using the starkiller weapon. By starting with this I feel this scene has more impact , and we get that the First Order is as strong as the empire or even stronger, and must be dealt with.
Leia and Han from the beginning are fighting on together with the Resistance in the midst of planning their attacks on the first order. We know right away that Kylo is Han and Leia’s son. We see that Rey is with the Resistance and Leia has trained her. Finn and Poe are also just Resistance fighters along with Han and Leia also.
I love seeing Leia and Han so early in this. It just works better for me continuing on from ROTJ. Taking the Emperor out of the movies works better for me also.
I would like to see this edit tinkered more with so that the cuts flow better because obviously the amount of cutting is enormous with this edit.
Really appreciate hearing such positive feedback! You’re seeing all the things I was trying to put on screen.
Definitely ended up being a lot of work - I started as soon as the blu-ray released and hoped to have it done in time for May the 4th. Ended up giving myself mild carpal tunnel so had to slow down!
Audio transitions really are the only area of criticism I’ve gotten so far. They’re absolutely the biggest obstacle - I feel great about some but there are others that just don’t have much room for improvement without grabbing the full soundtrack and matching up music cues with scenes. It’ll take a bit more time and gusto, but I’m not opposed to trying to up the quality!