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#1234462
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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NeverarGreat said:

Almost anything Trump or his administration says comes pre-slanted or is an outright lie. So when the media simply repeats these things without immediately fact-checking them, they are perpetuating the lie.

The media should always check up on things before quoting anyone. When they quote someone they basically give that guy credibility. So yeah. I totally agree with you.

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#1234253
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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NeverarGreat said:

Mrebo said:

This article helped me understand the intense dislike some have for Jordan Peterson.

I read that entire article and still have no idea what this Peterson guy is on about or why people dislike him.

Also, and sort of a tangent, what’s this about Leftism being like the final days of the Roman Empire? It’s an overly ominous attitude about the Left that has seemed to grow on the Atlantic these past few years. I’ve noticed it especially in their pieces on Trump, where the authors write as if his policies and tweets are couched in some form of intelligent strategy or overriding ideology instead of what they almost always are - an attempt to distract from the latest scandal and/or channel the media’s attention. This means that the Atlantic, and many other publications, play right into his hands when they ought to know better, and in fact they often do. When you read right to the end of the pieces, the authors often admit that they know just how cynical his ploys are, but the impression I get is one of defeat from the authors in their assumption that their article will not change anybody’s mind so why bother.

This is from the same publication that wrote this when supporting a presidential candidate for only the third time since 1857:

“In its founding statement, The Atlantic promised that it would be “the organ of no party or clique,” and our interest here is not to advance the prospects of the Democratic Party, nor to damage those of the Republican Party. If Hillary Clinton were facing Mitt Romney, or John McCain, or George W. Bush, or, for that matter, any of the leading candidates Trump vanquished in the Republican primaries, we would not have contemplated making this endorsement. We believe in American democracy, in which individuals from various parties of different ideological stripes can advance their ideas and compete for the affection of voters. But Trump is not a man of ideas. He is a demagogue, a xenophobe, a sexist, a know-nothing, and a liar. He is spectacularly unfit for office, and voters—the statesmen and thinkers of the ballot box—should act in defense of American democracy and elect his opponent.”

This is why the Atlantic infuriates me. If they are convinced that Trump is such a danger to the Republic, they should fight him regardless of how partisan it makes them look.

I like the Atantic’s stance here if I understand it right. Give me the news straight. Don’t slant it or make it too slippery to catch. Let me see what’s really going on as best as possible. Then I’ll decide what I like and what I don’t from there.

I don’t want to be forced to swallow stuff that’s not clean and true. The world’s complicated enough without added smear. Just do your job the best way possible. Just tell us the actual fucking news. Not your opinion of the news. Not what you want us to believe happened. Not some polished off version. Not some clever exaggeration. Just clear facts. And give us a goddamn Joe Friday to read it to us too.

It’s so simple.

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#1233059
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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The trouble with Pure Capitalism is it’s a race to the bottom and the guy with the most money wins.

And usually that guy is the one who’s the pushiest, meanest, or least honest.

So Pure Capitalism is about rewarding the psychopaths and bullies.

I want tougher laws against big companies. I want big stores to hit a limit so other places can give more choices and have a chance to support themselves. I mean thinking about trying to start up a company these days and competing in an honest way against some of these giants is really not a fun idea.

Sorry for the rant? But a 3rd generation store nearby finally shut down because it couldn’t compete with the advertising budget of a place with over 1000 stores that opened up nearby. They lasted 3 years in direct competition. But the fight just slowly bled them dry.

The owner was practically crying during the last week as he basically gave everything away. They had good quality. Made in America stuff. But couldn’t compete with a place standing nearby with cheap China imports.

Man. There’s got to be a better way to get things done than this.

Seriously.

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#1233042
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US Republican Party voters/supporters - your thoughts and views on Trump & the Party
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Not really sure if this is worthwhile? But I’m on point here so I’ll make this jab at the topic.

Former quasi Obama supporter here. I mean in his early days before he stepped into the Middle East and let down everyone who mattered. But anyway.

In my community I was one of a few who supported Trump after all the other candidates cratered (I liked Rubio in the early days). I figured that even though he wasn’t lined up with my views? And even though he was obviously a guy with an ego 3 sizes too big? I just couldn’t trust Hillary to do the right thing after all the real evil she and her husband have pulled off in plain sight.

I mean in this case? I just went with the devil I didn’t know as well instead of the one I was actually afraid of.

So do I think he’s doing a good job now?

Oh God.

Do I hope or think he’ll get another term on the throne?

I don’t think the world could handle that. Seriously.

Do I think he’s doing what he set out to do?

I think in his mind he is. I mean he’s obviously not in this for the money. He’s in this to be the guy known as the one who made America Great again. He’s in this so he can have his face on a future coin. So I fully expect him to drive hard until he gets somewhere far into his plans for sure.

What issues would I want to see addressed before the next election?

Man I don’t know anymore. It’s almost gotten to the point that anything a guy asks for just seems to make things worse.

I mean the idea of Muslims getting deep into our country scared me towards wanting to shut down immigration for a while? But I’ve never had anything against the Mexican people just trying to get into a better life. I seriously couldn’t blame them. I seriously liked the idea that the go-getters from that country were coming here just like our ancestors did. I mean I never mixed Mexicans in with Muslims. I never got that cross-eyed. The first group at least share my religion after all. While the 2nd often agree with the idea that gays should be executed. Like they’re stuck in some kind of time warp that passed by the rest of us some 600 years ago.

Well enough for generalizations. Of course I’m over-simplifying. Of course I’m leaving out the guys like my pal Mohammed (known to his close group as Jay). That beautiful ebony god. His mind so full of bright ideas. His manners so calm. His heart so deep. How the hell he served thoughts so straight being hooked on some of the stuff he was taking I’ll never know. But man I loved him.

Sorry. I’m wandering again.

Peace.

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#1231356
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The Place to Go for Emotional Support
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Probably one of the reasons I gave up on real world friends years ago is I just couldn’t feel close to anything real. Just too hard to draw out that connection on a regular. Just too hard to always play the game without hope of a close link by the end.

But then I think it’s maybe because I just don’t relate to most.

I mean the stuff I’ve lived sort of gets in the way of relaxing and hanging in the unimportant. I sort of need someone who’s lived a little too. I sort of need someone who’s been there and back. I need someone who can see this world in the same tilted way I do.

So far I only get that sort of meet up online.

Like in this place.

Sometimes.

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#1219142
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The Place to Go for Emotional Support
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Handman said:

They hurt my feelings, and it wasn’t the first time. If I can’t have an honest conversation with them about it, what good is that? I don’t want to sound like a victim, I want to be able to talk candidly and honestly, and I am unable to get that from anyone I know. This person acts like a great friend sometimes, but I also get that general impression from time to time, and it really bothers me. They’re so closed off. I really should move on.

Why do you say I sound “like a victim”? All I want is a good friend. Someone who’ll let me just be a part of their life. Someone to just do things with whenever. Someone to confide in. Or just someone who’ll ask me how my day has been, and answer me the same question. Are these not the qualities you’d expect of a friend?

This day has been exhausting.

I think the problem’s that your idea of what a friend should be isn’t really a universal. I mean most people see a pal as someone they can hang out with to have fun or share adventures. You’re looking at it as a tie in to something more key and more emotionally supporting. Something deep and anchored in real meaning. Something very true and trusted strong.

A lot of friends wouldn’t really get that.

If you’ve had that kind of connection with this person and now that light’s off? Then I don’t necessarily think you need to move on. I think maybe you just need to give them a bit of space so they can feel less weight. I mean it’s a strain to carry emotional need. It’s a strain to bear someone else’s pain. It’s heavy sometimes. Sometimes it’s all we can do to get ourselves along fine. Sometimes hearing someone else’s problems or needs at the wrong moment can be exhausting. Sometimes it can use up what is really only a small reserve of empathy or understanding that usually takes a while to recharge. And I mean sometimes that well’s good and deep? But it can still be fed from a really slow trickling stream. If it’s tapped a couple times too often? It can run dry before it can refill.

It doesn’t mean they don’t care in general? And it doesn’t mean they wouldn’t give you more time and attention at a different moment in time. Sometimes it’s just the timing of your need and the timing of their ability to give you what you need are just not in sync.

I’d say care for them in the way you want them to care for you. In a true way. In a deep way. In a patient and understanding way.

Then you’ll help them recharge. And that’ll help them help you all the faster.

Peace Handman. I honestly wish you and I were closer. I see in you the kind of pal I’d honestly appreciate.

Truly.

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#1219048
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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Alright. Immigration’s got a couple of problems? And a couple of pluses.

I see the illegal immigrants as the go-getters in a way. I mean these are the guys with the will and drive to make life better for themselves and their families. They’re not happy to get stuck in a rut. They’re the risk takers. They’re the kind of spirit that drove America to greatness in the past because we weren’t afraid to go to a new land an try something daring and hard.

So I think these guys should be given some tests to prove they’d be a good match for the rest of us? And then welcomed home with open arms.

Fast-track citizenship if you sign up for a 2 year tour in the army for example? Or if you can pass some other obvious loyalty test. I mean I don’t have all the answers. But something meaningful would help for sure.

The trouble with wide open doors tho is that it lowers the bar for how hard it is to get in. That means we stop just getting the hard workers and instead start getting waves of leeches. Guys who just figure it’s an easy win. So we have to have a hard, but fair way in.

Next problem is a lot of the time people leave their old country because the politics there are so much worse than possible. I mean even worse than we’ve got. But the trouble is people leaving don’t always realize they bring their politics with them. Sometimes it’s a good thing? As in a want to never repeat the same mistakes? But other times it can be a problem if they subconsciously want to recreate the very same problem they left behind. Because it’s what they know. Because it’s what seems normal for them. Because it’s what everyone in their “group” is voting into. Because somehow it’s comfortable in a way.

Maybe one fix for the fast-track system would be to only let immigrants vote after a period of time on their feet in America? I mean that would keep the temptation low to pander their way? And would keep us from getting a sudden wave of change in stable neighborhoods. I mean not all change is bad of course. But it’s harder when someone who hasn’t grown up in an area comes in in a group and changes things than it is if it’s done by groups who first take the time to mix in with local ways first and then suggest change later.

Or something.

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#1218752
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If you need to B*tch about something... this is the place
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Handman said:

Mrebo said:

Yeah, as Dom says, lots we don’t know. And more a matter of finding happiness, love, whathaveyou, more than a “date.”

Indeed. That’s why I’ve never really focused on finding “dates”. I want a meaningful friendship with someone. I don’t have zero friends, but I don’t have any meaningful ones.

I think I’ve mentioned before that I just moved back from an even worse situation at the end of last year. It’s better to have nothing than shit.

I’d say just pick another site. The one I’m on has given me a lot of hits even though I’ve got a horrible profile with no good pics. I’d serve it to you? But it’s a religious site. So probably not helpful.

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#1213438
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Politics 2: Electric Boogaloo
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moviefreakedmind said:

Mrebo said:

moviefreakedmind said:

http://money.cnn.com/2018/05/31/media/samantha-bee-apologizes-ivanka-trump/index.html

Samantha Bee calls Ivanka Trump a feckless cunt in response to the for some reason viral photo of Ivanka with her toddler. I don’t get the controversy over this particular photo or the controversy over this line. I do know that Bee shouldn’t have apologized. The people mad at her for saying it won’t forgive her and her supporters will just perceive it as weakness.

They should cancel her show!

I’m actually surprised every time I hear she still has a show.

She probably won’t, but they may put her on hold for a while. Again, don’t cancel the fucking show. This, unlike Roseanne, is a comment that isn’t broadly offensive but is rather just an insult to a political figure. Canceling everything over “offensive” language is a slippery slope.

Yep.

But I mean Roseanne’s show was annoying at best. Her comparing someone to an animal was poor taste at best.

But comedians have been doing that for ages (Trump as an orangutan for example) so cancelling a whole show because of the tweet of 1 cast member is sort of stupid in its own way.

Producers should’ve just got her to make an episode where she was compared to a hippo and had her work through her feelings on it.

I don’t know. I guess I’m just thinking being oversensitive sort of short-changes the chances to actually fix problems instead of just muffling them up.

Or something