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- STAR WARS: EP IV 2004 <strong>REVISITED</strong> ADYWAN *<em>1080p HD VERSION NOW IN PRODUCTION</em>
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That sir, is beautiful.
That sir, is beautiful.
Vaderisnothayden said:
Tobar said:
Vaderisnothayden said:
Tobar said:
They're referring to G-level canon which is George canon. Even if they weren't while I appreciate Splinter of the Mind's Eye for what it is, there's not a lot in it that can easily fit with the rest of the EU.
You have to remember, Lucas himself doesn't take the canonical status of the EU seriously, so it makes sense that some of his employees would dismiss it too, even if some others are busy promoting it as canon.
George himself has stated that there are different levels of canon. As well, the person who wrote that article was Pablo Hidalgo who is a big fan of and contributes to the EU regularly himself.
George himself has clearly stated the EU is a separate universe from his Star Wars and that it doesn't happen (he's given examples such as Luke marrying or the Emperor being cloned as things which don't happen). And I've read a lot said by George about canon, but I've never heard of him saying there's different levels of canon. I think you need to provide a quote for that.As for Hidalgo, just because he contributes to the EU doesn't mean he adheres to the fiction that it's canon.
That's what I mean when I say levels. When George gave the whole Father, Son, Spirit analogy. As for the Clone Wars team throwing the EU out the door, it's NOT them that's doing that. It's George. If it were up to Dave Filoni the whole show would strictly adhere to it because he's such a huge fan of it. However, since George decided to latch onto the project and basically take creative control over it all Dave can do is bring up as much of it as he can to try and preserve it.
C3PX said:
They made some pretty successful stuff during that time, it is ashame they literally ditched it all and stuck to mostly only SW and Indiana Jones titles from there on out.
Which is why thankfully Lucasarts has a new president in charge Darrell Rodriguez who loves their old legacy titles and has slowly been making them more available through digital distribution. He also partnered with Telltale games to create a new Monkey Island. As well as turning the focus of the company back to creating more original innovative titles, starting with their newest game Lucidity. So now we're slowly seeing Lucasarts turn back for the better.
Anyway, let's try and get back to the Clone Wars discussion. =P
C3PX said:
Tobar said:
George himself has stated that there are different levels of canon...
Which is a nicely done and diplomatic way of saying, "If I didn't write it, it didn't happen! Err.. but it did happen, because I want all this money from licensing... but it didn't actually happen, because I didn't write it. But- Buy that book!- it did happen, just not really. Okay... maybe it happened... a little. But not as much as the stuff I wrote happened, because that is the only stuff that really happened."
Maybe we should just say all EU is stuff Artoo dreamed about (do droids dream?), which would explain why some is quite pleasant, while other bits are downright weird, and other bits are absolutely nightmarish. So, Artoo really dreamed about it, giving it a solid place in the SW universe, but it didn't really happen. That is my new definitive explanation for EU!
If you wanna go down that route, then the way a lot of people look at is that the EU is like a series of history books. Since all of this happened a long time ago and no one living today was there, the retellings of the stories of what went on won't always be 100% accurate. Something along those lines anyway. He's never said that what happened in the EU happened, in fact when explaining the different canons he explicitly states that what happens in the EU doesn't have anything to do with what happens in his.
But on that note, what I do like about what they're doing with the Clone Wars and I mean specifically what Dave Filoni is doing. Is that he's a HUGE Star Wars fan, like a living encylopedia. So whenever they have story meetings and George comes up with something Dave will bring up what has already been done or covered in the EU and takes it to George. In this way, George can see it and then decide whether to include it or not. In this way at least we can still have some of the EU acknowledged.
Is it the perfect solution? No but so what, we the fans all have our own personal canons we believe in. Where the things that we like happened and the things that we didn't, didn't. Yes it's kind of sad that not all of it can fit together and play nice but given the number of hands and voices that have all contributed something to the galaxy there's no way it ever really could have. So we make do with what we have, it's our lot in life. =P
Vaderisnothayden said:
Tobar said:
They're referring to G-level canon which is George canon. Even if they weren't while I appreciate Splinter of the Mind's Eye for what it is, there's not a lot in it that can easily fit with the rest of the EU.
You have to remember, Lucas himself doesn't take the canonical status of the EU seriously, so it makes sense that some of his employees would dismiss it too, even if some others are busy promoting it as canon.
George himself has stated that there are different levels of canon. As well, the person who wrote that article was Pablo Hidalgo who is a big fan of and contributes to the EU regularly himself.
They're referring to G-level canon which is George canon. Even if they weren't while I appreciate Splinter of the Mind's Eye for what it is, there's not a lot in it that can easily fit with the rest of the EU.
captainsolo said:
Tobar said:
Yeah I got to attend the concert when it came here to my state. I have to tell you it was amazing! Getting to hear an entire orchestra playing all the great themes live. It was great and I can confirm that all episode I footage of Yoda is the new CG replacement. I also noticed that the Tantive looked more like Ady's than the DVD release. Hopefully that's a good sign.
That's what I was noticing image wise on the website. So EPI finally has the CG yoda-how was it?
I've got my fingers crossed!
The concert was amazing. As for the CG Yoda in TPM, it looked good.
He's a mean grey mother from outer space?
Yeah I got to attend the concert when it came here to my state. I have to tell you it was amazing! Getting to hear an entire orchestra playing all the great themes live. It was great and I can confirm that all episode I footage of Yoda is the new CG replacement. I also noticed that the Tantive looked more like Ady's than the DVD release. Hopefully that's a good sign.
AxiaEuxine said:
Kaibur Crystal was introduced way0 back in Splinter of the Mind's Eye and it was nt a repository of force-sensitive babies.
What is GG?
From Starwars.com:
"Long time fans will find something familiar in the term "Kyber memory crystal." In early drafts of the original script to A New Hope, the Kyber crystal was a Force-focusing artifact wanted by the Jedi and the Sith. This was eventually written out of the story in subsequent drafts, and a variation of the artifact -- spelled as the Kaiburr crystal -- made its way into the 1978 novel Splinter of the Mind's Eye. During the script development of Episode II, the term "Kyber" was nearly resurrected. The weapon that Jango Fett used to kill Zam Wesell was first identified as a Kamino kyber dart. This was changed to saber-dart in the finished movie. Finally, after over 30 years, the term "Kyber" with its original spelling has worked its way into a canon Star Wars story."
I highly recommend everyone check out the episode guides that are published after each episode airs. They're full of great info and behind the scenes stuff. Plus it looks like the web comics for this season have taken it up a notch and are looking pretty cool.
Yeah I remember the discussion, I was just surprised earlier when I found the concept art for it and thought I should post it. Nice recap for those that missed the discussion though! I agree I think the easiest and best way to handle it is to just remove the roof dome which is what I believe Ady said he was going to do.
Don't think this has been posted before. I just found the original McQuarrie concept art for Leia's room on Bespin:
I like that it includes a glimpse of the glass ceiling. Don't know if this is helpful at all, I believe Ady was just going to remove the extra roof bits from the SE shot.
brash_stryker said:
I think it probably would cauterize instantly with an arm (although we are speculating on a fictional technology here).
Would probably be different with a torso, like with Maul, seeing as it's a larger area and essentially an organ/liquid filled sack.
TPM supports that, when Maul gets halved there's a fine blood mist.
Well I know Kyle Newman the director of Fanboys is a fan of Revisited and he sent a copy to Dave Filoni the guy in charge of the Clone Wars and apparently he watched it with a bunch of people over at Lucasfilm and they all loved it.
I actually think doubleofive could do a good commentary. It would be like one of those historian commentaries. Just throwing it out there. =P
Yeah, the story for the Force Unleashed was fantastic. I'm hoping someone takes of the challenge of turning it into a film project like has been done with the game Bounty Hunter.
ladyferry said:How about changing R2-D2 'floating' down the stairs to Docking Bay 94 to something like him 'walking' down the stairs in the Naboo Plaza in AOTC?
He's not floating down. Look again, he's walking.
Way to scare away what women we do have roaming these parts guys. =P
Anyway, would love to see the progress that's been made with the new models Ady. =)
Well you know neebis the new Republic Heroes game is going to be simultaneously released on consoles and PC, right? Anyway, I would sign the petition if I thought it would make any kind of a difference. I couldn't believe they'd pull that crap when I read the announcement.
Oh I'd love that. I have a few DVDs filled with the complete runs of Droids and Ewoks that I got before they were officially available. The quality isn't that great but at least they're as they were originally presented. I wasn't pleased with the edited together/down versions they eventually released. So a project that combines everything together for the best quality would be terrific! =D
I just recently saw an interview with Steve Sansweet from Chicago Comic-Con where he mentioned they're still working on an ULTIMATE STAR WARS blu-ray release with all the behind the scenes footage and all the deleted scenes and what have you. The disappointing thing he said though was basically, "yeah we already have the HD transfers." He also said that we should be seeing that come out, "within the next few years."
Almost time to celebrate a noteworthy event.
Hey Ady I was thinking...maybe you could cheat a little when it comes to the models? They might be good for any long distance shots anyway. =P
doubleofive said:Someday, I'm want to make a splitscreen comparison of the whole movie. Not sure how I could do the straight-up rearranged scenes short of rearranging them on the original...
If it's a DVD comparison you could have two seperate audio channels for the viewer to switch between.
I just hope this new release of Metropolis is played back at the correct speed. The last official release looked beautiful and they actually used the music written for the movie but they screwed up the playback speed and had it running fast. Which in turn had them running around looking goofy. As well as marring the score as they performed it in time to the footage.
I'm using chrome, it was messed up the other night when someone brought it up but it looks fine now. Maybe you guys should try clearing your cache?