TiMartyn

Hey! Could I receive a link for your edit?

Tarog said:

This sounds right up my alley, Possible i can get a link? 😃

Thanks for asking! Look in your messages!

ziggyonice said:

This looks promising. I hope to give this a watch here soon!

Thanks! I hope you get a chance to!

smpearce1981 said:

Morning TiMartin

Thanks for the link to this yesterday.

So I’ve watched it through and thought I’d give you some feedback on your excellent work:-

Wow. Thank you so much.

I have not received such an in-depth review. Just as you thanked me for my time, now I thank you for yours. I truly appreciate your feedback and honesty.

Since I am not the writer/director, I can accept all of your criticisms related to story. I set out hoping to respect the audience’s time, knowing their own criticisms and the fact that they’ve seen this film at least once before. My main challenge was: how can I make this look like its own cut, and not just one of the billion fan edits out there? So, your compliment means a lot.

Next year, I will have released a new cut of Revenge of the Sith, encapsulating moments of other prequels, as a sort of tribute to the film’s 15th anniversary. The intentions are completely different from this Last Jedi cut, as I won’t be removing much - only adding and recutting select sequences. I hope to make a tribute to something I grew up watching, having been the first Star Wars movie I ever saw in a theater. Looking forward to sharing it with you!

Since Episode VIII released on Blu-ray and digital, there have been several “The Last Jedi” fan edits. It might be the most fan-edited film since the prequels. Some of these edits have been better than others, but I generally believe some of them to be improvements on the theatrical release for various reasons.

They have contained less poorly placed humor. They have removed the Canto Bight subplot, reduced Holdo’s role, and taken away Leia’s brief flight. Some edits have been more ambitious than others. YouTuber Hal9000 released a decent edit, as did Reddit users u/noodle-flinger and u/ClarkZuckerberg. I used their edits as a spring board for my own, lifting some alterations and continuing to rework the film in its entirety.

Over these past nearly 2 years, I have spent a lot of time editing and revising my own version of the film. It is the highest possible render quality taken from the Blu-ray version, and has a runtime of 1 hour and 35 minutes, 39 with credits. I am very pleased with how it has turned out.

I worked on this edit, specifically with those in mind who didn’t care for The Last Jedi and those who had a lot of issues with it, either as fans or just as audience members (like myself). I want to provide a version of the film which respects the audience’s time, in case they want to revisit it before viewing “The Rise of Skywalker” which comes out in two weeks.

If you would like a copy, let me know.

A preview of the various edits can be watched here, although there are many more changes in the actual film: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S15MehypNpo

Alterations include…

My edits:

• Recut opening sequence as Poe and BB-8 approach Hux, cutting out comedic beats

• Cut Hux facing Snoke’s hologram comedic beat

• Inserted and re-edited Luke mourning deleted scene

• Inserted Poe and Finn deleted scene

• Cut Leia slapping Poe

• Cut Finn trying to leave the Resistance

• Cut Canto Bight scenes

• Cut the majority of Holdo’s subplot, as Leia is no longer knocked unconscious in this version

• Cut the fish nuns entirely, as they were included originally for comedic gags and interrupted serious moments

• Cut repetitive dialogue between Rey and Luke about where she came from

• Cut Chewie’s porg/campfire gag, as I thought it felt more akin to a Lego Star Wars video game than an actual movie

• Cut a brief line from Luke to R2 on the Falcon about how he would never return, improving the flow of the scene

• Cut Rey’s line to Kylo telling him, “Put on a cowl or something.”

• Cut repetitive dialogue by Rey asking Luke if he was responsible for Kylo Ren (while re-editing, it seemed as if these lines were to over-explain information to the audience)

• Inserted the Emperor’s laugh in the flashback as Luke reads Ben Solo’s mind

• Cut Rey’s line, “Then he is our only hope” as well as the following shot of her pulling back the lightsaber and walking away

• Cut dialogue from Kylo Ren to Rey in the elevator as he brings up her parents, as a way to improve the flow of the scene

• Cut Snoke’s dialogue as Kylo prepares to execute Rey and replaced it with the score, also cut and rearranged shots to build suspense

• Inserted a Wilhelm scream, as this was the first Star Wars film to lack the iconic sound effect

• Cut Kylo’s dialogue to Rey about her parents, as I believe this to be an underdeveloped and weak plot point that does not advance the story or even the trilogy as IX seems to have something to retcon about that conversation

• Cut Poe’s “big ass door” line

• Cut Rey’s reaction to shooting down Tie Fighters, as a moment earlier she was in distress

• Cut the porgs aboard the Falcon on Crait

• Cut Leia line to Luke, “I changed my hair.”

• Cut Luke brushing off his shoulder

• Cut C-3P0’s “to one” line after Poe tells him to “shut up”

• Cut Hux asking Kylo, “Are you done?”

• Cut Kylo throwing Hux, and the comedic beat from the driver which follows, “Right away, sir.”

• Cut slow motion shots of Luke dodging Kylo’s lightsaber

• If you would like to know why I made the alterations which I made, I wrote a piece all about it.

u/noodle-flinger’s edits:

• Rewritten opening crawl to give more political context:

A galaxy in chaos! Both the evil FIRST ORDER and the brave RESISTANCE have been catastrophically decimated, each desperate to snuff out the other and fill the power vacuum left by the extinction of the Republic.

Leader of the Resistance, General Leia Organa, lives in hope that her brother, Jedi Master Luke Skywalker can return to restore peace and order to the galaxy.

As the First Order speeds toward the Rebel base, the fate of the galaxy rests on their escape….

• Removed the flute run at the beginning that’s the same as ANH. Replaced with the start of the First Order theme cut from TFA.

• Removed Kylo Ren’s theme when the First Order arrives at D’Qar because Kylo Ren is not present. Replaced with First Order leitmotif from the end of “Main Title and Attack on the Jakku Village” from TFA.

• Tone down the humor in spots where it doesn’t fit tonally, e.g. Poe and Hux prank call and the Ach-To nun getting hit with the rock are both gone.

• Cut Leia slapping Poe.

• Cut the green milk scene from Rey following Luke montage.

• Trim Finn’s fake-out sacrifice so that it doesn’t give you a chance to root for him to go for it.

u/ClarkZuckerberg’s edits:

• Cut Poe joking with Hux at the beginning

• Cut Finn/Rose side arc altogether including Maz as it served no purpose and was just fat. Rose thus turns into just another Resistance member like Connix.

• Cut Luke tossing lightsaber over shoulder. He now drops it.

• Added Finn and Poe deleted scene to give Finn more screen time

• Cut Poe/Holdo “fuel” arc as it also served no purpose and felt wasteful in it’s time. This includes cutting Leia being blown into space and subsequent “Carrie Poppins” scene. Thus the last we see of the Resistance until evacuating the small ships and Holdo sacrificing herself, is after Kylo decides NOT to shot and neither do the tie fighters (in this version). This leaves Finn/Rose with the resistance for the whole movie without leaving any continuity errors. Holdo role significantly changes from admiral to close friend of Leia who sacrifices herself for the Resistance.

• Added “Luke mourning Han” deleted scene

• Cut Ach-To nuns, and removed Luke saying “what is that?”

• Cut Luke/Rey joke bout “reaching out” and slapping on the hand

• Cut Holdo/Leia awkward joking about “may the force be with you” and just let Holdo say it.

• Cut Snoke laying on the floor

• Cut Finn trying to crash into the battering ram and Rose saving him. They are presumed to turn back with the other ships when Poe tells them to as Finn does not argue otherwise. This also removes him dragging Rose back.

• Had to zoom/scale the explosion to crop Rose and Finn out when the battering ram blasts the giant door open but it looks quite natural IMO.

• Removed broom boy ending as it felt like an epilogue which felt out of place for the middle movie of a trilogy, and especially in a Star Wars movie.

• Added 2 wipes (diagonal and left-to-right) where needed and a custom end “close out” circle to fit the end of the movie

Legacyofajedi said:

TiMartyn said:

Hal 9000 said:

I do t think there is, but perhaps a mod can merge these threads.
Your project looks fresh, by the way. 😃

Ha, thanks! I appreciate it. It’s more of a conceptual idea, not quite in line with your edits which I’ve always been a fan of!

Very excited to view your vision for this movie later today. Thank you for time and effort that went into this project.

Thank you! I really appreciate it. Keep in mind this is still a draft version. However, I wanted to share before IX releases.

Hal 9000 said:

I do t think there is, but perhaps a mod can merge these threads.
Your project looks fresh, by the way. 😃

Ha, thanks! I appreciate it. It’s more of a conceptual idea, not quite in line with your edits which I’ve always been a fan of!

Hal 9000 said:

No need for yet another thread. Please contain updates to this project to its original thread.

Wasn’t sure that was a certain rule - is there a way to delete posts?

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OutboundFlight said:
Overall, I enjoyed your vision. Leia’s death was great, and Ben’s redemption a real conclusion. I think looking at what you had (only two movies and some deleted scenes, no dallies or voice actors etc) you did a great job. These kinds of “creative” edits are my favorite.

Thank you for the detailed analysis! I appreciate it a lot that you took the time to write your thoughts. I’m in agreement with you on most of your critiques. Some aspects of the films had to be sacrificed for one reason or another. Finn is almost cut out from the story completely. As I’m sure you know, as great of ideas we might have for a fan edit, the footage I have access to isn’t always as ideal as I’d like it to be. Also, I only have iMovie, which is a whole other challenge in itself.

I worked on this project entirely out of fun, as I focused on another edit I referenced in the original post. I wanted a chance to experiment. Obviously with “creative” edits like these, things like wardrobe changes become challenging. Continuity gets strange, and ultimately feels like something I can’t always do anything about.

I won’t be going back to revise my edit anytime soon, as I’m spending energy on an entirely different one that’s been in the works throughout the past year. When I release it, I hope you’ll be there again to provide your feedback. Thanks for being so insightful! I’m glad you enjoyed it!

OutboundFlight said:

On OT.com you cannot have public links to fanedits. It is part of the copyright rules or whatever. Instead you’ll want to remove that link and send it to people who request via PM.

This edit sounds VERY interesting. I’ll watch it tonight and give some feedback later.

Got it. I wasn’t 100% sure as it is not a direct link. Thank you! I appreciate it very much!

As I was re-editing The Last Jedi, I started having some off-shoot ideas. I was inspired by popular fan edit, “The War of the Stars”, a sequel to the Star Wars grindhouse edit which reimagined the Original Trilogy, reordering scenes and completely changing huge aspects of the films. Watching it is an entirely new experience. It’s fantastic.

I was curious if this could be accomplished with The Force Awakens and The Last Jedi. Both films have scenes which feel conclusive, as if they belong at the end of a trilogy. I took advantage of this and created a “one-off” epilogue to the Star Wars saga, acting as if Disney never created any additional films and this was the finale. I made it as a tribute to the galaxy of George Lucas, and had a blast putting it together.

The list of things I’ve changed feels endless. Snoke is no longer Snoke. Luke is no longer a recluse. Force ghosts appear. Some characters who died don’t die, and some who lived don’t live. There’s a new Force projection from Luke. There’s a somewhat new lightsaber battle. There’s a redemption story.

Some sequences are simply re-edited to give the impression that you are watching an entirely new film. At 48 minutes long, I intended to give a short but sweet finale inspired a bit by the EU to my favorite film series of all time.

This remix is titled “A New Order,” as a reference to the fan favorite title of Episode IX as well as the literal new order of scenes.

Message me for a link! I hope you have fun watching it. Let me know what you think!

ziggyonice said:

I’m late to the party here… but again, regarding Canto Bight…

Does anyone else have a problem with the whole “Rose hates rich people” element? Frankly, I would like to take some of the “real world” politics out of that sequence. I get it, war profiteering is bad, but do we really need a conversation about it in Star Wars?

I’d rather cut out that sequence, and never have Rose mention it.

I second this. It’s oddly detracting from a subplot that already detracts from the movie itself. “Political commentary,” if you want to call it that, feels cheap when it doesn’t say anything genuinely controversial or bold.

I really enjoy watching your process on this thread, Hal. However, I think the edit “The Fallen Knight” has beaten everyone to the punch with the version of the Hux/Poe sequence. About 3 minutes in, the scene is dramatically trimmed. It’s pretty seamless. You can find that edit elsewhere, I think you’re already aware of it.

“A single light fighter?”

Hux gives the cadet a look.

Poe to BB-8: “Happy beeps here, buddy. Come on. We’ve pulled crazier stunts than this.”

Leia’s first moment

Hux shouts “open fire!” (Hux’s fear and frustration)

“BB-8, punch it!”

“He’s going for the dreadnaught.” “He’s insane.” (Hux’s relief)

ChainsawAsh said:

Just because it isn’t clickable doesn’t mean it’s not a link…

My bad.

ChainsawAsh said:

If that page you linked to has a download link in it, delete the link in your post. It’s against forum rules.

You got it!

I’m not sure I missed it, but are you considering removing the lightsaber moving toward Snoke before Kylo ignites it?

Also, ClarkZuckerberg has posted a pretty solid edit of The Last Jedi, with a few deleted scenes and removed humor. It’s very smooth and pretty impressive for just a few days after the home release.
 

Link removed by moderator. ChainsawAsh is offering some good advice in his posts below.

Please give the ‘Fan Edit/Preservation Forum Rules and FAQ’ a read, mate.
 

The name of the Fan Edit is ‘The Fallen Knight’, and more info can be found up on https://www.reddit.com/r/fanedits/
 

There is also an OT•com thread on it, here:-

http://originaltrilogy.com/topic/The-Last-Jedi-edit-The-Fallen-Knight/id/59746

It does look an intriguing Edit 😃

Glad to hear that! Have you considered or thought at all about editing Luke’s lightsaber to be green instead of blue when he’s on Crait? I’m seeing people nitpick about that, and I think it might just “pop” more than the blue saber did in that scene. Also prefer fan edits to be as different as possible from the original, just for the sake of a new experience. Your editing Mustafar over the Death Star in Revenge of the Sith did that same kind of thing for me.

NeverarGreat said:

I remember when EU writers would refer to the droids phonetically See-Threepio and Artoo-Deetoo. So even here the emphasis is on letter sounds and not the letters themselves.

I agree that this line breaks immersion even when there are other examples of individual letters being spoken in Star Wars, and think that it’s not so much the substance of the line but the tone. In Star Wars, even the most absurd names are spoken with sincerity as a way of investing the audience in the reality of the world. When a character refuses to take even their opponent’s name seriously, how can the audience take it seriously? It’s very much like Star Lord challenging Ronan the Accuser to a dance-off, except that The Last Jedi isn’t supposed to be a comedy.

Short answer, I get it.

I don’t understand why so many seem bent on not getting your point.

Possessed said:

You could at least wait until the movie is actually out legally before you start talking about rewatching it, piracy isn’t encouraged around here.

Streaming films isn’t actually illegal. It’s uploading or downloading them that is. Also, this thread is all about a proposed fan edit. I can’t help but imagine that not everyone who will be watching it owns a copy of Last Jedi. I don’t know the legality of fan edits, but to stream a film doesn’t feel all that different from watching a fan edited version of it.

ChainsawAsh said:

Also, come on man - X-wing? Cell block AA23? TK-421? Every single one of those is from SW77.

Sure, but to address it so blatantly as “that name that begins with the letter ‘H’” makes me think to Sesame Street with the letter of the day, which is somewhat jarring. I might be alone, but the prank call scene already felt jarring as it came off more like parody than the thing a parody would be based on. Then, for a character to address the English language, it just adds to that strangeness. Already, within the first five minutes of the film, I’m taken out of that experience of suspended disbelief.

I just started rewatching The Last Jedi and I had to pause it. Because during the opening prank call scene, Poe says something that I can’t believe hasn’t been nitpicked yet. “Hux… With an H?” Is anyone else bugged by that kind of thing? Star Wars has its own language but now Poe straight up addresses English letters? I feel like a massive geek but I can’t be alone here, can I? Is something like this a line you’re willing to remove, Hal?

I don’t know if it has been mentioned, but The Last Jedi glosses over Luke realizing Han had been killed. It felt strange to not have a scene where Luke mourns his old friend. There’s a deleted scene which will be released, and seems like exactly the kind of content your edit should include.

I really hope to see it in there.

Hal, I’m very excited to see your edit! I’ve made this account just to reply to your post. I really dug your edits of the prequels. Please consider these revisions of the film…

-Luke shouldn’t shout about the “sacred texts” after Yoda burns down the tree as it doesn’t make sense for Luke to be upset about something he was literally just going to do!

-Cut the irons on the Supremacy. It felt like more parody humor, which didn’t make much sense to me. It was like from a Lego Star Wars video game.

-Rey should never directly say anything like “who are my parents?” She has never wondered who her parents are- she wondered WHERE her parents are. It seems as if Johnson and LucasFilm forgot that Rey isn’t concerned with who her parents are. We are. The audience cares about who her family is. Rey cares about when they’ll come back, and what happened to them. The film confuses the audience’s questions with the characters’ questions. She might as well had looked at the camera and addressed the thing we were all wondering… It was kind of ridiculous.

-No weird look from Finn at the camera when BB-8 rescues them in a small AT-AT. Rose and Finn give each other a look as if BB-8 saving them is crazy, but it’s so overwhelmingly self-aware it took me out of the movie. Possibly the weirdest part of the movie, maybe even more so than Leia in space if I’m honest.

-But removing space Leia is important too. It’s really bad.

-Maz Kanata’s scene should be removed but if it must stay, please remove the reference to the pendant man and how they apparently hooked up. That was awful.

-No humor with Hux and Kylo on Crait. It takes so much away from the tension of that scene.

-No awkward, prolonged milking of the sea cow.

-Less of making a point out of the wealthy who make money off war.

-Less making a point out of animal cruelty. We can make political statements but making at least four is a bit much. Let’s bring it down to two.

-Remove the line about “saving what you love” from Rose, and cut the sudden kiss she gives Finn. It’s weird.

-The film can show the children talking about the legend of Skywalker, but can end with the Falcon flying into space. Johnson has commented how the Falcon flying into space was almost the last image of the film. It works perfectly.