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#548144
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Info: Digging up those blacks - using the STAR WARS Blu-ray for preservations
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You_Too, I think those newest shots look fantastic! Like others said they may be pushing the boundaries of the white levels a bit but that doesn't really bother me, they still look very nice.

Could these settings be used on the dvd's or HD broadcasts with similar effect or would they require their own tweaking? I'd really like to test these out on the BD's but I don't have BD drive on my PC.

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#534544
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Methods for colour matching/colour grading
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That's pretty cool getting a method to automate the PureImage program. I've been experimenting with that software for a long while now. It does give some nice results for some shots but also less than stellar results for others. Really depends on how good the source is you want to match and how bad the color cast is in the SE. I've used filmstrips saved as .png's to get whole shots matched quickly.

I also have experimented with Matlab's autocolor scripts that Laserman posted ages ago in one of the other color correction threads. This method produces some very nice results but is not without its own set issues. I haven't found a way to apply it to video clips. And using is frame by frame usually produces color shift/flicker during playback. Also if the sources are really different from one another, noise will be introduced as well.

Here's some results from the Matlab code. As you can see in the sunset shots a lot of noise and missing pixels are introduced. The algorithm also brightens the image to GOUT levels.

http://img718.imageshack.us/img718/5759/ccm5.th.pnghttp://img508.imageshack.us/img508/9189/ccm1k.th.pnghttp://img850.imageshack.us/img850/1733/ccm3.th.pnghttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/7413/ccm2.th.pnghttp://img8.imageshack.us/img8/8343/ccm4.th.png

And below are some of the Matlab color results but combined with the SE04's luma:

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/7056/lumachroma2.th.pnghttp://img64.imageshack.us/img64/4185/lumachroma3.th.pnghttp://img37.imageshack.us/img37/1831/lumachroma4.th.pnghttp://img153.imageshack.us/img153/7881/lumachroma1.th.pnghttp://img13.imageshack.us/img13/8927/lumachroma5.th.png

 

 

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#339065
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Methods for colour matching/colour grading
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Has anyone tried this avisynth plugin: http://avisynth.org/vcmohan/HistogramAdjust/HistogramAdjust.html before?

Adjusts the histogram of a frame by either equalizing it or by matching with histogram of another image, or with given histogram table of values.

 

Orinoco_Womble, I did try the PureImage program on the shots Moth3r posted but they didn't come out well at all.

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#336984
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Methods for colour matching/colour grading
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I found a somewhat faster way of applying this to a sequence of images so I've been experimenting with this quite a bit. Here's a couple more clips:

Han-Rebel Base

http://www.sendspace.com/file/781nbm

Luke/Taun-Taun

http://www.sendspace.com/file/jie7is

I don't think it's perfect but it's definitely the closest color matcher I've seen so far. Not all the shots I've tried so far have come out great but I think's that due more to the gout quality. For example, spaces scenes don't come out well at all and the snow scenes aren't that great either or are inconsistent.

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#336687
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Methods for colour matching/colour grading
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I decided to try out the demo for the PureImage program and I must say I am very impressed with the results. It's pretty accurate. Not sure how it could be applied for video, I tried a couple ideas but it didn't work out.

It would be great if this could be used somehow. I know color correcting manually on my project continually makes me want to pull my hair out.

Anyone have any suggestions on what source in terms of color would be best to test out besides the GOUT?

 

Here's a couple random frames using the GOUT as reference (Top is SE, Middle is GOUT, Bottom is Adjusted):

And here's a short clip by recoloring and saving each frame then converting the sequence to avi (which is very time consuming).

http://www.sendspace.com/file/fj56gu

 

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#310940
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ADigitalMan's Guide to MPEG2/AC3 Editing
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Couple quick questions. First is there a difference between the Womble export file options (.mpg and .mpv) ? I had been exporting them as .mpv then later I noticed it somehow got changed to .mpg. I'm still getting a complete stream copy which is what I want but I just want to be sure which file type I should be saving as (if it matters).

Secondly when I import my movie file into DVDlab Pro it gives me a messages saying the file still has "open GOP's". Am I doing something wrong when exporting from Womble to get this message with the file in DVD lab Pro?
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#277022
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The Empire Strikes Back - The Vintage Edit (Released)
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Keep in mind too that although the filter does have some hiccups some of the problems are because of the SE colors. The power generator explosion that you posted is a prime example, it's already lacking color in the SE so unfortunantly anything that's slighty desaturated already in the SE won't be fixed by this filter. Another example is the first shot of Vader standing on the bridge of the Executor, it's almost completly desaturated, the little red lights on the panels, the fleshtones on the officers...gone and the filter will not replace the color.
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#276985
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Please help me with histograms.
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Sorry I forgot to mention, in DGIndex go to Video>Field Operation and check Forced Film, then save your project. Edited the tutorial.

Also this filter isn't 100% glitch free. The filter does seem to eat some details. For instance at the beginning of the film when the probe is heading toward Hoth, part of the atmosphere is desaturated. Chewie's welding sparks also lose some color. I'm sure there's more but I haven't looked at the whole film.

Here's the ESB Histograms again for anyone that still needs them. (Original credit to Desree for providing them.)
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#276961
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Please help me with histograms.
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(36,1,230,0,255)

First number is the black level,
Second number is Gamma,
Third number is white level,
forth number is what you want to adjust black level to,
fifth number is what you want to adjust white level to.

It's still washed out? Hmm, those numbers worked for me. Glad to hear you got to work though.

Also a handy tool you can use to check the color points is CSamp. Run the cursor over the frame while you have it opened in Virtualdub.
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#276948
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Please help me with histograms.
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This is how I did it:

You'll need the following tools:

Avisynth
DGIndex
VirtualDub
TMPGEnc Encoder
Colourlike Plugin for Avisynth

The histograms are generated with Avisynth but since we already have the ESB histrograms we just need to write the code to match the SE colors to the original.

First you need to rip your DVD to an M2V file.

Open your M2V movie file in DGIndex and save the project as D2V file. Make sure to check "Forced Film" under Video>Field Operation.

This is where Avisynth comes in. Open Notepad and write the following code:

LoadPlugin("C:\AviSynth 2.5\DGIndex\DGDecode.dll")
mpeg2source("C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\esb_dvd.D2V")
polarcolourlike("C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\SeDVDallPolar.txt", "C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\OrigDVDallPolar.txt",true,true,true)
colourlike("C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\SeDVDallYV12.txt", "C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\OrigDVDallYV12.txt")
converttorgb32(matrix="pc.709")
colourlike("C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\SeDVDallRGB.txt", "C:\EMPIRE_STRIKES_BACK\VIDEO_TS\FullLaserallRGB.txt")
levels(36,1,230,0,255)

Naturally change the directory paths to your own. Keep your M2V, D2V and histogram TXT files in the same folder. Save this file as an AVS, under Save as type, select "All files". Save.

You can open your AVS file in VirtualDub to see the results and adjust the levels to your satisfaction. The black and white levels do have to be adjusted otherwise you get a washed out picture. Make sure you save your code each time you make an adjustment then refresh VirtualDub to see the new result.

If everything is to your liking you can now open your AVS file in TMPGEnc and encode to DVD. If all goes well you should now have a nice color corrected file of ESB.