TheHelmetDork

RidgeShark said:

TheHelmetDork said:

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I must say it's nice, but it would've been pleasant to see the 'I ain't that good.' scene included instead of 'Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.'

I mean, come on...

There was a lot of consideration that went into what lines to use.  For this particular instance, I chose "Good.  Bad.  I'm the guy with the gun." because it's a fan favorite (at least for those who grew up with the U.S. Theatrical Version) and because Sam Raimi himself said he preferred it.

Not meaning to be rude, but I'm pretty sure it wouldn't have been a big use of space reinserting the 'I ain't that good.' line as an optional branch. Otherwise, that's about the only gripe I had about your fanedit. The only other semi-gripe I have would be the quality of the reinserted deleted scenes, but that's to blame on the source material.

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I must say it's nice, but it would've been pleasant to see the 'I ain't that good.' scene included instead of 'Good. Bad. I'm the guy with the gun.'

I mean, come on...

shanerjedi said:

Sometimes physics isnt as fun as incorrect adventure. In fact, physics is never as fun. :p

And that is why 'suspension of disbelief' can sometimes be encouraged in order to enjoy a work of art.

Didn't hear the entirety of the RSO's just yet, but the Imperial March's restoration sounds absolutely superb, didn't even hear any scratching on it unlike the credits version of it.

Where to download these, might I ask?

If somebody should torrent this, I guess it'd be legendary.

Lucas seems to have forgotten what the OT was about. Throw him out.

We could. But some cleanup might be needed depending on the quality.

EyeShotFirst said:

I played around with this picture for about 10 to 20 minutes and I was able to just about remove the sabers and their gigantic fat blurs so then I made the sabers you see from scratch how do you like. I know I only edited a picture but doesnt it work about the same way with video.

Well, that looks about right.

YES! This is what I'd been looking for. Thanks for the redirection.

I'm pretty sure that I mentioned once before that in the Wampa's lair, when Luke grabs his sabre we can hear it turning on twice. Not sure if anyone else mentioned that.

Well, I’ve been pondering about a bit of this. I’ve got no images but still, I know I certainly want to detach the numbers from the Star Wars films. No ‘Episode IV-V-VI’ shit.

I guess the original could just be Star Wars with the original title and opening crawl and yellow text.

But for The Empire Strikes Back, I’d use the original logo used for it on posters and such (the flat one, not the slightly rotated one), and blue-coloured text along with an arrangement of The Asteroid Field which then flows over to the original tune when we first see the Star Destroyer approaching.

Then, with Return of the Jedi I’d think of picking the Special Edition logo in a bit of an orange hue, mainly because the original already had STAR WARS on it and it’d probably not make sense of putting STAR WARS back on the title. That being accompanied with a rearrangement of Approaching the Death Star, preferably something in the likes of the one used in the Super NES game.

If anyone knows a program to do these opening crawls and such in, I’d gladly use one to make an example of what I’m approximately thinking should be implemented.

I hope most people here understand what I’m trying to say.

YES!

SW: 1997 version, aside from the video quality.

ESB: 2004 version, aside from the weird colour schemes at times.

RotJ: 1997 version, except for BEAK Sarlacc and Jedi Rocks.

Fang Zei said:

The only positive side of this syndrom is that since Lucas must realize his impending mortality he'll get the final versions of the movies out in 3D sooner rather than later, hopefully by the end of the next year like I've been predicting.

I mean, at the King Kong premiere in December of '05 a reporter asked him if he missed Star Wars and he replied "no, I don't." At this point it's just a matter of practical business, but I get the feeling (and this is just my opinion) that the money-making possibilites of just the six movies is starting to decline, and the 3D and the blu-ray might as well be the last hoorah.

Really, even putting aside whether or not we'll finally get the good OOT, I just hope he stops tinkering with the revised version (of the revised version) of the movies and just says "this is the definitive, six-part saga that I've been talking about for years despite the fact that I still sell the dvd's in seperate trilogy boxes." Obviously I hope LFL finally comes to their senses for the blu-ray and throws in the original versions of the six movies in addition to the final drafts, but I think if anything we can rest assured that the tinkering is coming to an end.

Maybe, but I have a feeling we can't be sure yet.

1Shouta said:

I just became a Star Wars fan several months ago. I watched them in the numbered order, that's 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Besides that, the 2004 SE was the first vesions of the OT I saw, so I have different view on it. But I'm sure that I'd be pretty pissed if I grew up watching a perfect movie and then in the future they completely screw it up.

Even though I've only seen the SE of the OT, after reading about all of this I see what problems the changes I saw were.

Reaction to certain scenes:

 

A New Hope:

"Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough": Anakin didn't even know he had a son...

Jabba/Han scene: I imagined Han's boss to be a bit...different

Luke's falcon training: Isn't he supposed to have a blue lightsaber?

Obi-Wan vs Darth Vader: Wonder why Obi-Wan calls him, "Darth"...

 

Empire Strikes Back:

Luke & Leia kiss: Wait, didn't Padme name her babies Luke & Leia?

Yoda's appearance: Did...is Yoda on drugs or something? And his voice got...heavier

Cloud City entrance: I seriously doubt that this scene was in the original version...

Vader/Emperor scene: Palpatine looks exactly the same as he did in Episode III. Don't people age?

"I am your father": I already suspected this in either one of the movies since it's probably the most heard quote

 

Return Of The Jedi:

Jabba's appearance: *just realizes that Episode I had Jabba* Alright, Episode IV CG Jabba officially sucks. This is much better.

Leia says she remembers her mother: BULL. SHIT.

Palpatine's appearance: He looks like he lost weight compared to Episode III & V...

Unmasking scene: If Anakin was burned, why does he only have burn marks on the side of his cheek?

Anakin/Obi-Wan/Yoda final scene: Why is Anakin just looking around everywhere?

My dad's reaction to the final scene: Who's that guy on the left?

 

Now typing this out helps me see why the PT kinda ruined the OT.

 

 

 Word.

'Now take your Jedi weapon, and use it. I am unarmed.'

Versus...

'I AM DEFENSELESS!'

In the scene where Vader and Luke's lightsabres cross right in front of the Emperor's face, either restore the original version of this part or remove the glitch in which Vader's sabre goes right through Luke's. That was an atrocious edit.

Taolar said:

TheHelmetDork said:

Well, seeing as I'm trying to convert my PAL-region Star Wars DVDs to AVI or others, I'd like to know how to properly lower the sound pitch without having to slow it down, and being able to implement this into the PAL clips without any bugging.

With Windows Movie Maker this gets out of sync pretty fast, as far as I've tried.

Certain programs let you change the speed of the audio while retaining the pitch, or vice versa. 

To change speed, but not pitch, I'd export your original speed audio tracks from your video editor, and import them into Audacity (a free program, available for all platforms), and use the "Change Tempo" effect.  Just type in the new desired length and let it render.  Then export from Audacity, and re-import to your video editor.

Or if you already have it at the right speed, but need to change the pitch, do the same thing, but use the "Change Pitch" effect.  This would be slightly more complicated though, as you probably won't know exactly what parameters to put in, and you'll have to tune it by ear.

Hope that helps,

-T

 

Sadly, that was what made the sound out of sync overtime with me, even when I kept the tempo the same.

Moth3r said:

Why do you want to keep the video at 25fps? You would get better results if you did slow it down.

Alright then, but how is this done correctly?

Well, seeing as I'm trying to convert my PAL-region Star Wars DVDs to AVI or others, I'd like to know how to properly lower the sound pitch without having to slow it down, and being able to implement this into the PAL clips without any bugging.

With Windows Movie Maker this gets out of sync pretty fast, as far as I've tried.

In the Wampa's cave, at the moment Luke ignites his sabre...I believe we can hear it turning on twice.

Gaffer Tape said:

But it still doesn't explain why he's in Dagobah.  The scene just shows him landing there.

 Search for solitude might be a reason..dunno.

Well, I guess that still leaves the people to wonder why the hell Yoda was in a place such as Dagobah.

This could still be used as a bit of a surprise effect.

Akwat Kbrana said:

Actually, Lucas fully intended to give Darth Vader a pink lightsabre back in '77. It was all part of the original vision for Star Wars. Regrettably, they just didn't have the funds to pinken Vader's Sabre back then, so it has to be done now.

 Hehe.